Zwift meetups and social rides ?

Sunday hills is just messaging through the companion app, no discord.

There is no chance of me making sunday hills. I’m cooked. Gonna take a day off, do an easy spin on Monday and then hopefully get some legs back in time for Tuesday evening….

You’ll be fine on Sunday hills @scaredypants. Just don’t chase @drp . It comes back together (or @phil56 will go and fetch him).

@robbo1234biking I just noticed (connected to that ftp bump) that you rode your best 5 mins for a good while today. That should translate nicely out of crit city. I feel guilty for shouting in your ear to push even harder now in the finale! And you, @oopnorth and @zilog6128 all took a boost in the (incomprehensible) rankings as well. I’m not at all convinced (although we could improve) our swarm made any difference to those outcomes today, beyond maybe company/fun, they were just good rides.

@weeksy are you sure that ANT+ v Bluetooth is really your issue, and not a red herring/coincidence? Power broadcast is a pretty basic function and the two protocols really shouldn’t diverge much.

Just don’t chase @drp

I once went on a road ride with DrP – lost about 10 minutes up a shortish drag in the rain to a (closed) pub. I doubt things have changed much (even the pub’ll be shut 🙁 )

Morning all! I’ve thought about it… I’m gonna stick the elastic band on… to see what it’s like, and so we stay together cos this is a longer route,
and we can all rode at our own pace without worry!

DrP

Right, so basically 75 watts and a multipack of donuts 🍩 for me this morning 😃

@weeksy are you sure that ANT+ v Bluetooth is really your issue, and not a red herring/coincidence? Power broadcast is a pretty basic function and the two protocols really shouldn’t diverge much

Well in the past week I’ve raced 3-4 times and averaged 245-270w for a crit. Yesterday was 320w using a different protocol. I find it hard to believe I went 40w over my current FTP and 50w more than the day before. For it to be a coincidence would be highly unlikely.
Form could explain maybe 5-10w, but 50w is huge as we all know.
I’ve got testing to do later

My usual 5 min power is 3.1-2. yesterday was a pb all-time power of 3.9

Right, so basically 75 watts and a multipack of donuts 🍩 for me this morning 😃

We all have our training plans..stick to it….!!!

DrP

Sunday hills is just messaging through the companion app, no discord.

Does @DrP want to test his eEverest channel?

Morning folks,

I saw you all yesterday in the crit before the one I did. Zpower bumped me to a win in C which is kind of unusual as I don’t tend to “win” things. Anyway I wondered if I might be invited to the Sunday hills ride? I am looking for a Sunday spin but none of the normal rides are quite fitting the bill this morning. Cheers!

It was working well last time I checked…
Tbh, I’ll just use text, rather than voice I suspect..
It messed with the audio/ music… might have a play about to get it working, but if I turn on my headphone mic (beats solo 3) it makes the music/ stream break!

You joining us this morning Phil?

DrP

good work speedie 🙂

good work speedie

For once living up to my ridiculous STW name that i’m not allowed to change 😀

DrP thanks for accepting my friend request! Initials GT if you’re inviting me to anything. Thanks!

Speedy… found ya and invited!

DrP

@DrP

You joining us this morning Phil?

Yep, see you shortly

Enjoy your ride chaps. The small person who lives with us actually let me sleep in so I have only just got up. Going to do a gentle recovery spin around France at some point today for stage 6 of the TdZ.

@savoyad when I think back to it I feel like I should have pushed that little harder but I think I always feel like that in hindsight! Happy with the gains as if I can get some good workouts in this week and then have a good recovery week I should hopefully see some good gains. The Friday VO2 max sessions will be helping with the 5 min power.

Having to restart everything… zwift not being nice this morning! DrP

struggling with garage wifi – long story !

might make it

Also… my bloody tdz ride 6 didn’t seem to register! Ffs…!

DrP

After all that I didn’t realise it started at 8:30. I’m on-call from home this weekend and have a 9am teams meeting I need to attend. Sorry DrP although I am keen to attend in future!

Well that’s still a mystery to me.

This morning i used multiple devices, some on Ant+ and some on Bluetooth, running side by side and the power output was exactly the same on BT/Ant+ which of course we’d expect.

I tried Jepster as above and again, that was completely consistent with another device running at the time.

I even tried the android device i was using yesterday and sitting at 80w it was showing exactly the same power as the laptop next to it.

However, all of that said, i still don’t believe for a single second i produced 50w more than usual without something being ‘wrong’ somewhere here. So i’m going to stick with Ant+ and just keep racing as i was in C. Of course, i’ll try to replicate 320w lol… but i know that’s not plausible in my world.

I also took the opportunity of a lie in this morning, I don’t get many. A day off the bike for me today as I’ve been doing quite high intensity this week with all the crits and workouts, i need the rest.

Back to it early tomorrow with the workout crew. Enjoy the sunday rides!

Morning weeksy – or is it van der Weeksy now, with all that extra power ?

Maybe it’s all down to the rest you’ve had after yr doping camp surgery – which I hope went well (assume so, since you’re back riding)

Nope, not having it Scaredy….

26/1/2021 : 228w
28/1/2021 : 262w
29/1/2021 : 273w
30/1/2021 : 313w

Even before surgery my last 3 Crits were 275, 273, 265. There’s simply no world in where 313w consistently exists even in a 6 lapper for me. I don’t have that..

I’m going to try a little test on Fuego Flats later.

But i’m wondering if it’s something to do with cadence meter not being present ? My cadence sensor is ANt+ only.. so when i try a ride on Android i can’t do a cadence. I wonder if that could throw the figures out ?

Cadence only really needed for crank pm I think…

DrP

Thanks for this mornings ride @DrP – great fun. The burgers were a nice touch – and thanks for the warning about the bears! That was a close call….

ha!

So..after that, i think the meetup finished BEFORE the actual route badge.. d’oh!!!

Looks like we needed to carry on back into the fuego flats start..FFS….

NO route badge for me!

DrP

So I’ve paired the Garmin to the trainer.

It also enables me to see my cadence when on Android.
So,
Android using Bluetooth 90 cadence 220w on 0% flat.
Laptop using Bluetooth 90 cadence 220w on 0% flat.

Now taking into account theres a bit of 3s display Vs 1s display and going over different protocols etc, they were close enough to that above, maybe 1w here or there, bike in same gear etc.

However, all that said, I still don’t believe yesterday was accurate. I don’t have a cone of shame power in me.

Cheers Dr P and chaps for this mornings ride.

School boy error that DrP, always carry on for the badge on these meet ups.

Sorry I dropped towards the end it was good ride until then. Shame to miss out on the burgers, what happened did you run out of sausage or soemthing?

I didn’t actually drop off as such just a bad sequence of kit issues, first one my phone died so no tunes and couldn’t message. Rode on in silence only 8 or 9 miles to go so no problem, then the tv went blank, the lap top which is out of reach was showing the Home Screen.

So the Zwift app was still running but minimised and when it does that for some reason the hdmi shows blank to the tv. In any case I had to get off the bike to sort, then thought I may as well nip to the loo. Hoping all the while the band would keep reeling me back into the group. It must not work like that as I was sat on my own when I started again with no chance of catching back up. You must need to be putting in some kind of consistent effort for the band to help you out.

It’s the second time that app has minimised itself after an hour and half or two hours so I need to sort that out, it would very frustrating if it happened during a race or big effort.

Catch you all on Tuesday.

Yeah if you stop pedalling altogether then you’ll fall out the rubber band. But even plodding and like 50w it’ll keep you in the group.

Rubber band groups are actually quicker overall in general from some tests it seems.

https://zwiftinsider.com/keep-everyone-together/

Which adds up, I had Volcano and Titan PRs this morning despite never really breaking 200w.

@DrP

i’ve a tacx Neo..it came with a bunch of adaptors… I’m only using the 135 QR.
If your machine is the same setup as mine, and they will fit, i can lend you my others until you get yours delivered to you?
Just post them back when you’re done?

Very kind offer 🙂 I need the e-thru axle with the 1.5 thread is if you have it. If you do, very happy to borrow it to get me going. Garmin are quoting 3-5 weeks delivery if you are okay with that. Drop me a message.

Which adds up, I had Volcano and Titan PRs this morning despite never really breaking 200w.

not done a rubber band meetup so not 100% sure how it works… does it give you faster segment times on Strava etc, and extra Zwift XP for going further/completing routes, even though you haven’t put as much effort in? Wish I’d known about them before if so, could’ve just got one of you lot to rubber-band me up AdZ over and over again to get the Tron 🤣

@weeksy there is only one thing for it! More crits this week for testing. Your HR was well down yesterday compared to your normal crit HR so would suggest an issue with the power output unfortunately.

The rubber band works well on our morning workouts as we arent really worrying about terrain etc that is just a distraction from the work being done. It ensure we stay together and as we are doing the same intervals it works well as we surge and rest at the same points. i think we were doign a VO2 workout once and one of us was out of sync so in the rest intervals that person would be accelerating and vice versa so it yoyoed on the road.

Got TdZ Stage 6 done at a very sedate pace. Managed to actually do a recovery ride and ignore the want to race!

My HRM has been all over the place recently from not working cat all, to showing me at 242bpm, that’s why I bought the new one. I don’t believe it’s been accurate lately so the recent data may be completely wrong.

Tomorrow I’ll Crit with Ant+ and new HRM
Tues I’ll Crit with Bluetooth and new HRM just out of curiosity

Speaking of AdZ

DrP, what are you planning on riding at in terms of Watts or W/Kg?

i’m going to be aiming for 3w/kg..circa 210 watts…
keeping HR <140 so as not to burn out..

Will see how long I can keep that up. It’s actually quite a good climb because the lower corners are a bit steeper, and i found i was standing for those (still at 210 +/- a bit), so hopefully will keep teh bum sore spots varied!

DrP

Was @weeksy’s mystery surgery insertion of an additional lung? My gut says issue with a wheel-on trainer and a newish bike. Tyre pressure or calibration?

I had a chilled TdZ around Innsbruck this morning. The temptation to attack the legsnapper was strong but found my way to a group cruising at 2.5 w/kg so was nice. Then knocked off another New York route. 2 hours recovery and legs felt great afterwards. Feel guilty somehow🤔

My gut says issue with a wheel-on trainer and a newish bike. Tyre pressure or calibration?

I calibrate/spindown before most rides.

It’s another question though as to which spindown do people use. I used to use the Wahoo app spindown and then the Zwift one, but 99% of the time i just use the Zwift spindown now.

Forgive me if I’m teaching granny to suck eggs. I always use the manufacturers own app not zwift. I’ve not had such a massive variance in power before. Weird.