Why our food is making us fat

Yeti’s banned?!?

permananetly banned or naughty stepped?

anyone else? was that a particularly crap day’s food?

Yes

I am not on a diet nor am I fat

yeah, why is TSY banned ?

How did I miss that?

Oh dear.

I’M NOT FAT!!!

my bones are dense.
with kebab meat.

Phil.

I’m not sure the Mods have explained their reasons to you…

Your bias doesn’t surprize me.

Your bias doesn’t surprize me.

Steady tiger.
Keep it friendly.

Steady tiger.
Keep it friendly.

Why are you trying to make a tiger be friendly? GGRRRRAAAARRRRR

Oh… that sounds rather poor for all involved.

And really quite silly, considering the subject matter.

Just showing off in front of the girlies. 😳

On the other hand, this thread has gone 8 pages & hasn’t descended into pointless bickering 😉

Just showing off in front of the girlies.

There’s GIRLIES?
Quick; be good.

Steady tiger.
Keep it friendly.

Don.
Thats the idea, and its gone well so far, in the absence of certain individuals.
Well, that is until a few types arrived with their wooden spoons.

Pity really, cos they could have chose to engage in the debate instead.

I’ve done my research, and it continues.
I’ve posted the comments from bodies and people in authourity on this subject and have tried to keep my personal opinons to a minimum so as to avoid argument.
While also ignoring the sniping remarks from others.

Science has the answers and as Molgrips has pointed out.
When your 68 yrs old, do you want the doc to tell you that you’ve got 2 yrs left of 20 ?.

Ta.
😉

And really quite silly, considering the subject matter.

😆

incredibly silly considering the subject matter!

EDIT:

When your 68 yrs old, do you want the doc to tell you that you’ve got 2 yrs left of 20 ?.

if i make it to 68, considering my hereditary medical conditions i’ll be in a wheelchair with a back that’s crumbling away and my diet will be incredibly restricted anyway. honest answer to the question… i’m predicting i’d prefer to be told 2 instead of 20.

with regards to the whole coke conspiracy; who would ever consider flavoured sugar water to be a healthy drink, whether its sugar or corn syrup, cocaine or whatever inside it?

incredibly silly considering the subject matter!

Phil.
You’re missing the point, again.

Anyway, thats it for me.
Theres enough in the previous pages for those who are genuinely interested and don’t just turn up here to releive their work stresses by trying to belittle others.

Good Thread.

😀

so i can’t agree with Ro5ey?

why not just start calling me a bell end on the forum in every post? oh hang on, you’ve already done that several times and i’ve never reported you, in fact i apologised for whatever it was i was meant to have done to upset you, publically.

wow. what a horrible person you’re showing me to be.

I’m going to start eating cake and chips again, just so that I don’t have to explain to people at work that I’m not trying to lose weight.

what’s a bell end?

EDIT: don’t google ‘bell end’ at work

or ‘gentleman’s tip’

what’s a bell end?

And is it iDave compliant?

Probably people looking for any excuse not to change their diet

It’s not that it’s wrong to talk about calories in/out, it’s just over simplified and focussing on that alone is unhelpful. it’s much easier to create a calorie deficit for most people if they avoid or limit certain types of foods (and it’s not just fatty foods).

And slimjim, that doesn’t look like a healthy diet to me I’m afraid, but what do I know, I’m a fatty. 🙂

😀

definitely iDave compliant, full of protein if you eat it right 😯

anyway, back to the OP. i read the link a few hours before it was posted up on here and thought it was a pretty well presented article… it still baffles me how anybody could think flavoured sugary water is healthy no matter how that sugar is put in there, be it corn syrup or raw cane sugar!

interesting that they kept sugar in it and didnt alter it like in the states, we’re fast become mini-america as the world becomes a smaller place so i wonder if they’ll eventually change over?

poor slimjim, he’s posted one days food! i wouldn’t judge a diet based on a one day sample unless he’s eating the same every day

more hummus SJ 😀

interesting that they kept sugar in it and didnt alter it like in the states, we’re fast become mini-america as the world becomes a smaller place so i wonder if they’ll eventually change over?

Presumably becasue there’s lots of corn grown in the states, whereas we grow lots of sugar beet? Corn syrup might be cheep over there but probably isn’t worth the cost difference to ship it.

iiinnnnteresting, is UK coke made in the UK then, i presumed, probably wrongly it was shipped over from the US having never bothered to read a can properly!

of course it is made here not worth the cost shipping it though I am sure they could ship the “secret” formula that makes it taste so great

TBH I have no idea last time I drunk some fizzy pop …it is so long ago it was called fizzy pop though.

For those who consider the food industry bears no responsibility – this is a former Coke marketing executive:

“I’m not against soft drinks per se,” he began carefully. “What I am for is balance of power. And I think the power has shifted in the wrong direction. The resources, the scale, the intelligence, the strategy these companies use is intense.

….

“It’s one of the great marketing machines of the world. You’ve got so many tools at your fingertips. … You’re dealing with Michael Jackson, the NFL, multimillion-dollar decisions,” he said.”If you’re interested in moving consumers, then you’re most happy when you move millions of consumers. . . . It’s exciting, intoxicating, even. I felt like the king of the world.”

For all the range and reach of Coke’s marketing operation, Putman said he quickly learned it was built around one goal: per-capita consumption. “How can we drive more ounces into more bodies more often?”

The term of art among company executives was one Putman had never heard before: “share of stomach.”

“It was a mind-bending paradigm shift for me. We weren’t trying to get share of market. We weren’t about trying to beat Pepsi or Mountain Dew. We were about trying to beat everything.”

Putman embraced the challenge with gusto. In the interview, he recalled giving a presentation in which he showed a chart illustrating how consumption of milk had dropped over time while consumption of a sugary soda — he can no longer remember which product — had risen.

When he pointed to the place where the two lines crossed — the moment in which soda surpassed milk — Putman remembers swelling with pride.

This is pretty telling also:

It is long-standing Coca-Cola policy not to directly market any of its products to children younger than 12. The company has never advertised on weekend cartoon shows, for example, and Putman said he was never given data on consumption rates among children 11 or younger.

Still, he said, “magically, when they would turn 12, we’d suddenly attack them like a bunch of wolves.”

Company research indicated that brand loyalty starts young, and once formed it is hard to break. “I would say 90 percent of all soft drink marketing is targeted at 12- to 24-year-olds. . . . It was how we spent all of our time.”

Former Coke executive slams ‘share of stomach’ soda advertising

Can’t remember if this has been discussed already, but this interview also makes pretty sickening reading:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/story/2012-06-07/coke-q-and-a-coca-cola-mayor-bloomberg/55453016/1

TBH I have no idea last time I drunk some fizzy pop …it is so long ago it was called fizzy pop though.

And you got money back when you returned the bottle?
Isn’t Coca~Cola made under licence in each country?

iiinnnnteresting, is UK coke made in the UK then, i presumed, probably wrongly it was shipped over from the US having never bothered to read a can properly!

of course it is made here not worth the cost shipping it though I am sure they could ship the “secret” formula that makes it taste so great

Actualy I dunno, they could make the syrup (which is probably barely any more than the sugar) in the states and ship it over, the shipping would then be offset against only needing a diluting/botteling plant in the UK.

And you got money back when you returned the bottle?

It was all fields back then 😉 You are not that far out tbh

Isn’t Coca~Cola made under licence in each country?

I assumed this having drunk it in arabic countries with arabic writing on it

Well done all for resisting google and having a guess

Well done all for resisting google and having a guess

I did research it actualy, but it just says 95% made in the UK and the taste is tailored to local markets, whether that’s the taste or just what they can lay their hands on cheeply is another matter.

Thomthumb….i’m no more qualified than anybody else to discuss this issue, i’ve read loads of stuff on weight loss (and weight gain) when i lifted weights throughout my 20s…..a couple of my friends still bodybuild and as a group they are the experts at managing their weight and appearance….just google images a bodybuilding competition and look at the ridiculously low body fat levels they walk on stage at….its mind blowing.

Whats even more impressive is that most of them only start dieting around 16 weeks out from a show….they use the time honoured understanding that eating less calories than they need will result in fat loss…..i remain sceptical about any other method, other methods seem to be for people who say they want to lose weight but cant really be arsed to put in the hard work of endless bland meals and daily workouts.

In the last 4 years i’ve been 15 1/2 stone when i was a gym monkey, down to 12 stone in less than a year when i took up kickboxing instead….back up to 15 stone (of fat) when i stopped all training and spent most evenings indoors with a new girlfriend being wined and dined very well!….and now back to around 13 1/2 stone with weekly cycling and squash….

….i tweek my diet here and there, off on holiday at the end of July so i cut all the muck from my diet a few weeks ago and already my forearms are more vascular than they were a fortnight ago….its boring obviously, i really want some cheesecake or ice cream or a massive great Snickers bar….went out for dinner last night and ordered a chicken and avocado salad as my main course instead of my usual calorie laden choices….i’ll probably be 12 stone something on holiday and nice and lean.

Frankly i’m shocked people think any other method works.

….the diet industry appears to a license to print money, i can feel a career change looming!

I bet there’s no HCFS in Irn Bru!!

They also put more bubbles in Spanish Coca~Cola (or is it less?). I can’t remember but do know it’s different. 😕

google? what do you take us for? cheaters?!?!

i’m going to use my hard earned ‘ive been on the the tea-cups at chessington world of adventures’ certificate as evidence that i know what i’m talking about when i say that its definitely all made in america and shipped around the world hidden in other food stuffs. them damn sneaky yanks.

Frankly i’m shocked people think any other method works.

….the diet industry appears to a license to print money, i can feel a career change looming!

Eating low GI (which i***e is just a more extreme version of as far as I can see) has nothing to do with the ‘diet industry’, is recommended by health professionals, and I’ll repeat yet again that it works much better for many (most?) people than a simplistic calorie/fat focussed approach.

Definitely working for me at the moment.

I believe Coke make their special syrup for the EU in Ireland and it’s then watered down, carbonated and bottled/canned in more local plants.

If you really want to hate the Coca-Cola company, read Mark Thomas’ book Belching Out The Devil.

other methods seem to be for people who say they want to lose weight but cant really be arsed to put in the hard work of endless bland meals and daily workouts

I’m eating large, delicious, tasty meals and getting by on my daily half hour of gentle bike ride to work and back. But, your way sounds ace 🙂

My food is making me fat because I’m a greedy sod and I don’t do enough riding to burn it off these days. 😉