STW research club, I propose for the second subject building 7 9/11 event

I don’t quite understand why they collapsed WTC7 in such a way that is was obviously deliberte

Because of the information that was held at the WTC complex and the investigations that were on going there.

We look at the situation and see the tragic loss of life, but we fail to see that the amount of information that was destroyed in those building was massive!

37% of STWers questioned expressed anger at the Moderators.

37% of STWers questioned expressed anger at the Moderators.

Citation needed!

😉

im not sure how gravity works but other than down which way could it have fallen?

The UK needs to wake up to the truth, where exactly do you see the UK being in the next 10 years?

Our situation is deteriorating rapidly, everything from rubbish strewn streets to mass civil unrest.

The banks are still out of control and we are yet again being driven into another global conflict.

9/11 was the starting point for this era of mass murder, mass lies and mass useless idiocy and I for one would very much like to see the UK wake up and start working together to sort the shit that the rich and powerful have got us into.

9/11 was an inside job, how is it that so many people believe in the lie? the same reason people walk about not looking where they are going or how people can justify being obese or lying stealing and cheating others, we live in a meticulously created fantasy world. That is all too rapidly coming crashing down!

I shouldn’t have clicked on this thread but hey, it’s lunchtime.

Kael – seriously? Where is all the unrest and rubbish? Your sense of proportion is all over the place to put it mildly.

Kaesea, You seem to have missed this rather simple question I asked earlier.

An answer would be nice (seeing as you are basing your whole argument about controlled demolition on the topic)

Ok, so ask yourself this……… In the Demoltion industry, what does “Pull it” actually mean ?

And then ponder on why that term would be used, when people are claiming that the building was brought down by a controlled explosion.

As usual, your not making any sense I’m afraid.

This thread is hilarious 🙂 I’m loving that its called research ‘club’ is anyone other than kaesae researching? I use the term ‘researching’ in the loosest possible sense!
Who is kaesae BTW, posts on the previous page seem to suggest that he makes bike components?!

He flogs cheap bearings on fleabay iirc

kaesae , you still got your youtube videos up?

9/11 was an inside job, how is it that so many people believe in the lie?

Because I have yet to see any real. convincing, definitive evidence of any sort that shows it to be a lie. There are a lot of ‘theories’ with holes in them as big as Ground Zero but no definitive proof.

9/11 was the starting point for this era of mass murder, mass lies and mass useless idiocy and I for one would very much like to see the UK wake up and start working together to sort the shit that the rich and powerful have got us into.

I think you’ll find that started over a century ago with the Boer War.

however if you get bored while this process occurs, why not borrow money from the banks that you can then pay interest on, to bail the banks out of the shit they got you into!

Eh? What relevance does that have to building 7?

I think you’re losing your focus and your way a little bit.

@Kaesae, while you answering neilglovers question

Can you answer my question as to what your actually doing about these terrible things (STW aside)

Also, some folk still have unanswered questions about bike frames

I think you’re losing your focus and your way a little bit marbles.

FTFY, Pinky! 😉

9/11 was the starting point for this era of mass murder, mass lies and mass useless idiocy and I for one would very much like to see the UK wake up and start working together to sort the shit that the rich and powerful have got us into.
I think you’ll find that started over a century ago with the Boer War.

This.

And as far as I am aware we have not been engaged in “Total War” (not the game series) for quite some time now.

9/11 was the starting point for this era of mass murder

Your right prior to this it had been thousands of years of peace, tolerance and brotherly love- do i need a citation for that?

As for the % I can get a higher percentage who are wrong

46 % believe in creationism- so it is more truer than your view – and even got a You tube link to prove it – I am sure I could get a “researched” one but really I cannot be bothered.

9/11 was an inside job, how is it that so many people believe in the lie?

Not sure, why do you believe this lie?

I bought one of Kaesae’s tools off Ebay and its really good!
This thread, however is a bit rubbish.

Who is kaesae BTW

As well as cheap bearings, I believe he also has a sideline in tinfoil hats and all these threads he starts are just a clever marketing play.

I’ve always found it odd that he’d come on here at all. There has been a degree of customer alienation (in the posts by other forumites at least)

The Ebay business looks like a perfectly viable means of making a living, no doubt the industry connections could allow expansion into general industrial bearings as well. Not sure truthing on STW is helping either ‘truth up’ the UK or the business.

As for the thread being rubbish, DezB. I implore you to reach into your inner child and see the light. Or not, no biggie really is it.

kaesae – why do you bother with this shite? Its an MTB forum ffs. If you are THAT bored why not use the internet to its best capacity and research some porn?

36% of Americans who responded to a survey of around 1000 individuals out of a population in excess of 311,000,000 now believe that it was an inside job

care to research what percentage of the population was actually sampled?

BigButSlimmerBloke – Member

Who is kaesae BTW

As well as cheap bearings, I believe he also has a sideline in tinfoil hats and all these threads he starts are just a clever marketing play.

Now we’re getting at the truth.

Our situation is deteriorating rapidly, everything from rubbish strewn streets

if you don’t drop litter and pick up the rest then the problem goes away and you live somewhere nicer

The UK needs to wake up to the truth, where exactly do you see the UK being in the next 10 years?

Our situation is deteriorating rapidly, everything from rubbish strewn streets to mass civil unrest.

I reckon we may see a small turn out of the economic mess, not out of it but heading that way.

It’s funny as a kid I remember places being messier and certainly as a 70s kid I remember hell of lot more civil unrest and terrorist. attacks.

kaesae – Member

woody, there will be plenty of time later to research other things, hopefully I will be involved in that, once we learn how to work together and focus on accomplishing the goals, that the group sets out.

After 19hrs and 5 pages is anyone stepping inside the circle?

I reckon we may see a small turn out of the economic mess, not out of it but heading that way.

It’s funny as a kid I remember places being messier and certainly as a 70s kid I remember hell of lot more civil unrest and terrorist. attacks.

Pfftttpphh, trust you to come on and say something sensible.

Purely as a piece of anecdotal evidence. Before I moved to my current location (not the sofa, where I live, again not the sofa) I was advised by numerous people that it was a dive/rough/full of mad heads.

What I actually found was a town of decent, welcoming folk, the streets are clean, the parks are maintained. The city is undergoing large scale development. Not actually seen or heard of any crime in the area (although no doubt it occurs) In summary, quite a nice place to live. Truly excellent Whisky bar 5min walk away (15min back). Bike shop about the same distance. Good Butchers/Greengrocers/Bakery. 10 minutes from some decent hills, and 45 minutes from some truly excellent hills. We have no debts what so ever, inc mortgage.

I’m not saying that the UK isn’t about to descend into some Mad Max style anarchy. It’s just that my bit of it, and the bits my friends and family occupy seems to be OK right now.

And this is not to say that there aren’t some who are really struggling, and certainly not to devalue there struggling. Purely just my little bit.

Because of the information that was held at the WTC complex and the investigations that were on going there.

We look at the situation and see the tragic loss of life, but we fail to see that the amount of information that was destroyed in those building was massive!

i know, but why were they so cack-handed as to bring it down in such a way that it was obvious to even the most naive viewer?

Because of the information that was held at the WTC complex and the investigations that were on going there.

You’d think if they had such vital “information” there then they’d have some off-site backups. (i.e. a normal disaster recover plan that any large business should have).

but that would imply that they knew a plane would be crashing into a nearby building, so they deliberately did’t have a back up, to try to mislead us.
However, computer scientists are currently trying to recover data from floppy disk found in the rubble. Unfortunately the the slidey back metal bit is a bit bent which makes it hard to get the data off.

Kasea, You’ve not answered my earlier question yet.

It’s in bold on the previous page in case you missed it.

While we are asking questions that you will no doubt refuse to answer…….

Go on then. (Exactly) what was this mysterious data, and (Exactly) what were these “investigations” ?

Details please.

So to hide the data they blew up 3 buildings killings thousands and causing multi-billions $ of damage instead of just destroying the data.

You know he’s on to something.

I bought one of Kaesae’s tools off Ebay and its really good!

citation needed.

Linky for kaesae’s tools, got a BB bearing puller?

Between this and the lance threads it’s a little surprising what beliefs some people cling remarkably hard to

kaesae’s gone quiet.. shut down by Mi6..?

So to hide the data they blew up 3 buildings killings thousands and causing multi-billions $ of damage instead of just destroying the data.

I’m sure last week in the other thread kaesae said it was all to steal “180 and 300 billion dollars in gold .. from the basement vaults”.

Has our “research” eliminated that one now?

D0NK – Member

I bought one of Kaesae’s tools off Ebay and its really good!

citation needed.

Linky for kaesae’s tools, got a BB bearing puller?

Between this and the lance threads it’s a little surprising what beliefs some people cling remarkably hard to

Lance ‘pulled’ the buildings to cover up his doping? 😯

Think it’s Katec on ebay ?!

it was all to steal “180 and 300 billion dollars in gold .. from the basement vaults”.

Has our “research” eliminated that one now?
Grham dont knock him at least this time his conclusion is data [ see what I did there] dependent

😀 Not knocking, just wondering if the “research” had actually led to a change of opinion (given that even the YouTube “evidence” suggests there was no where near that much gold)

No I said that 2.3 trillion went missing from the pentagon, as announced by Rumsfeld the day before 9/11.

Then a plane allegedly flew into the Pentagon and hit the area the investigators / accountants were working in, after having descended 7,000 feet in under 3 minutes and done a 360 degree turn. It could have simply flew straight into the pentagon, but the pilot who could not fly a sesna a month before wanted to show off!

Since the individuals who were decorating / restoring the WTC complex with thermite had full access, they also took the gold from the vaults beneath the WTC complex.

Then to wrap the shit up they blamed it on Al Qaeda / Bin Laden and invaded Afghanistan / Iraq.

Once the records from the Pentagon and the WTC were destroyed the Trillions of dollars they had stolen could not be traced.

Now I’m not saying that all of this is true, but it would be very interesting if it turned out to be

http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=15459

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/asbestos.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/11/cancer-new-york-rescuers

I assume that post popped your bubble of optimism Graham 😛

you excel yourself that link says nothing about the claims you post and just says that the guy who bought the WTC had it insured and for terrorism.*

As usual it notes some links but has no actual proof or smoking gun and just gives us some weak circumstantial evidence
TBH i am not even sure what you are trying to prove with that link

* As the buildings next door had been attacked by terrorists it is not hard to see why he may have insured his $3 billion dollar expenditure for this.

This thread. I have no words. 😯

No I said that 2.3 trillion went missing from the pentagon, as announced by Rumsfeld the day before 9/11.

My mistake I thought when you said:

“2.3 trillion dollars vanishes, the next day 9/11 happens and a shit load of computers and hard drives get taken out well thousands of computers and loads of paper records anyway, between 180 and 300 billion dollars in gold goes missing from the basement vaults.“

That you were implying that 180 and 300 billion dollars of gold had also gone missing from the basement vaults. Not sure where I got that from.

Once the records from the Pentagon and the WTC were destroyed the Trillions of dollars they had stolen could not be traced.

Do you actually have evidence that this is the case? For example a follow up news reports with Donald Rumsfeld or Senator Byrd saying “Yeah, see that 2.3 trillion dollars of transactions that auditors found we had no proper accounts for*, well turns out all the receipts were in a box in the World Trade Centre. With no other records. Or backups. Sorry about that.”?

Because that would really strengthen that case somewhat. Right now I see some boring talks about some poor accounting (or possibly even clever accounting concealing black op spending) but I don’t see how that all conveniently goes away after 9/11.

(* note: this is slightly different from “vanished”)

Then a plane allegedly flew into the Pentagon

One thing I always wonder about the “no plane theory”: what happened to the actual plane and the 59 passengers and crew? What was the plane-like thing followed on radar and seen by eye witnesses? And how did “they” manage to convince the passengers to make last phone calls to their families etc saying they were in a hijacked plane?