Jeremy Corbyn

Hague wrote a good piece in the Telegraph why allowing too much conversation in a party is a bad thing and it seems the Labour party no only failed to read it, but are in open war between the left and right sides of the party.

Leadership tips from William Hague: I wonder how much attention we should pay?

The people who already dislike them will see it as a u-turn.
The people who already like them will see it as perfectly logical.

But the people who matter are floating voters in marginal seats. We only need to concern ourselves with what they think. (…and they might have forgotten in 4 years time.)

I’d have thought this would play well in the Scottish Elections which are coming up next.

Aye – and then he can change his mind again after the Scottish elections and before the next Uk General election.

The election is another 5 years away. Does anyone really think people will remember this when that comes round? In the first few weeks of Cameron’s govt he lost a cabinet minister to the expenses scandal. Blair had the Ecclestone scandal. I don’t remember them ever being brought up in an election campaign. If you’re going to screw up, better to do it now than in four years time. As for labour MPs, they need to get a grip and look at how they can help the party instead of damaging it by feeding the press with all manner of tittle tattle.

But the people who matter are floating voters in marginal seats

So the key question is – are those the ones that will snap up the discounted Lloyds shares, or are they the ones shafted by tax credit cuts?

Aye – and then he can change his mind again after the Scottish elections and before the next Uk General election.

That’s democracy. Politicians don’t make the rules. (Actually, I suppose they do.)

Why waste time on Lloyds – prioritisation on tickets up to £1k. Thanks, but why bother?

(At least he bought a smile to the (over-excited) Dan Hodges in the Torygraph today)

Leadership tips from William Hague: I wonder how much attention we should pay?

Well as Hague is someone who has been there and seems open and honest about his mistakes, then yes you should pay attention. Hague wasn’t talking about policies he knows his and JC are never going to meet, in the article he was solely talking about party leadership and internal party debate when setting policy.

So the key question is – are those the ones that will snap up the discounted Lloyds shares, or are they the ones shafted by tax credit cuts?

Not inconceivable that they could be both at the same time.

yes Hague was really trying to hep writting about Corbyn in the torygraph 😆

Half the advice from the labour party is not to help him never mind a Tory grandee

Corbyn’s rise is a symptom of the Left’s slow drift into irrelevance
Like a tribe lost in the desert, without a coherent vision for the 21st century, Labour is now stumbling towards a mirage

that was the title of the previous article from helpful Hague and , being honest, no one can believe he was just trying to be helpful as no one is that stupid or naive.

Any comment on the Tories changing their mind about helping out in Saudi prisons or is this thread just for digs at Labour rather than actual debate

Any chance of saying they did this as Corbyn raised it ?

Any comment on the Tories changing their mind about helping out in Saudi prisons or is this thread just for digs at Labour rather than actual debate

Nobody on the left is going to be crowing about that, because it means they have to accept that the dreaded Gove was not just in the right, but a pants wettingly outstanding leading light in taking on the FCO and making Cameron shift govt policy on the issue.

Any chance of saying they did this as Corbyn raised it ?

Rumours going around that Gove actually briefed Corbyn on it

But the people who matter are floating voters in marginal seats. We only need to concern ourselves with what they think.

Says who……the media/tory press?

Personally I think the people who matter are the “definitely-not-Tory-but-can’t-be-arsed-anymore” voters.

The people who were given the rather limited choice of voting for Tories in the Conservative Party or Tories in the Labour Party, and more recently, Tories in the LibDem Party, despite definitely not being Tories themselves.

Personally I think the people who matter are the “definitely-not-Tory-but-can’t-be-arsed-anymore” voters.

If they couldn’t be arsed to vote last time (when there was only twenty four hours to save the NHS) what makes you think they will be arsed to vote next time?

The thing about people who can’t be arsed to vote is that they, well, can’t be arsed to vote…

(you might want to bear in mind that voter turnout in marginal seats is already higher than safe seats)

so you will comment but only to make Gove the new Dan the man Hannan
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Thanks for that valuable contribution ninfan

so you will comment but only to make Gove the new Dan the man Hannan

Hey, its not me writing the Guardian editorial:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/13/gove-emerges-as-human-rights-hero-over-bid-to-scrap-saudi-prisons-deal

[Quote]Personally I think the people who matter are the “definitely-not-Tory-but-can’t-be-arsed-anymore” voters.[qPersonally I think the people who matter are the “definitely-not-Tory-but-can’t-be-arsed-anymore” voters.[/quote]

Yes, I apologise for ommiting them. Have a listen to R4 more or less on this topic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032804x

If you haven’t already, I highly recommend you look at the twitter feed of Mike Gapes, MP for Ilford South.

The man’s brilliant. I may not agree with everything he stands for, but oh my he’s good.

HuffPo link here – http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/13/mike-gapes-labour-twitter-corbyn_n_8284206.html

I highly recommend links when recommending other web based things

Do keep up at the back there, Junky! 😉

(Apologies, was in mid-edit when you posted.)

High five for Gove on this one

It comes to something when he is the voice of callmedave’s conscience !

Something’s changed, cameron took it on the chin when snow slagged him off for getting the Saudis the european human rights council,
maybe one day Prime minister Corbyn could have Blair charged for shutting down the al yamaha SFO investigation 🙂

Labour press office are at it again:

“Right lads, we’ve managed to regain the agenda, and the press are finally talking about Tory tax credit cuts, and how they will effect target demographic voters, how can we capitalise on this?”

“I know boss, we’ll rake over the coals of the nuclear weapons issue that caused such a massive rift in the party that we agreed to stop talking about it, by announcing that Jezza will accept the vice presidency of CND…”

“Brilliant idea Tarquin!”

Good on you Jeremy.

Jesus christ you right wing trolls care more about him than the left wing big hitters

Principled man has principles shocker

Jesus christ you right wing trolls care more about him than the left wing big hitters

Best three quid I ever spent!

Principled man has principles shocker

Yeah, but enough about Michael Gove – it appears that Jezza has already forgotten all about those important principles he spoke of, like the Labour Party having policies decided on democratically by the membership.

JC(not Jesus Christ) thread should not be resurrected for the fact that his(not Jesus Christ’s) supporters are pretending to be responding to the “right wing” comments.

In actual fact they love all the comments because they have the chance to response and in the process enhance their propaganda. They are pretending to be the victims.

No, no, no … JC(not Jesus Christ) … you shall not pass!

No, no, no to your EU ZM bureaucrat ideology …

No, no, no to your utopian view that we are a family … I am NOT related to you.

No, no, no to you ideology because it sucks! It sucks so much it lacks common sense.

No, no, no to you trying to save every human on earth … you just kill those that oppose you like any other ideologies. No difference.

No, no, no to we are all human … no you’re not … you cannot distinguish between real human and ZMs!

Slight hijack, saw the repeat of Question Time last night … that white woman with the dreadlock defended the opened door no limits to immigration policy saying that they were all men because their parents/families etc let the fittest in the family to gain entrance to EU first then the entire family follows. You stoopid woman … without the men the entire female population would be turned into sex slaves when all the men are gone or escape without their female counterpart. (assuming they come from war torn regions) Those men that left their women folks at home while the seek their fortune or pretend to escape war … no, no, no … you shall not pass!

🙄

p/s: Remember I told you so and I see you coming …

Obvious troll is obvious

I assume chewkw spouts incomprehensible bollocks again
Thanks aracer and toys for file blocker

^^ translation ? 🙂

Junkyard – lazarus
Thanks aracer and toys for file blocker

Is interest, does it mean you can’t see his nonsense?

Junkyard – lazarus

Obvious troll is obvious

I assume chewkw spouts incomprehensible bollocks again
Thanks aracer and toys for file blocker

Oh no you don’t!

allthepies – Member

^^ translation ?

A simple translation.

Just say No to JC(not Jesus Christ) …

If you cannot understand this simple translation then you are a real troll. 😆

Lifer – Member

Junkyard – lazarus
Thanks aracer and toys for file blocker

Is interest, does it mean you can’t see his nonsense? [/quote]

Please use the blocker to block yourself out … 😆

Is interest, does it mean you can’t see his nonsense?

Thread looks like this:

😀 Where do I find this?

deadlydarcy – Member

Is interest, does it mean you can’t see his nonsense?

Thread looks like this:[/quote]

If you cannot see me then you shall not response. Excellent! Save me time having to type quickly because someone is wrong on the interweb.

Lifer – Member
😀

The more to use of the blocker the better … 😛

Let’s see how fast you get it when you use the blocker … 😆

I think if you’re using Chrome, it shows up in the chrome add-ons store or something like that. You can also choose to completely block the person so you don’t even know they’ve posted. 😀

Once you’ve installed it, you get the option alongside the user’s forum name as shown alongside yours in the picture I posted.

Awesome – is it just called ‘fileblocker’? Can’t find it.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/singletrack-world-forum-e/cpgdlmbifgbhcoigdoeoooakijdionop

When installed (Chrome only) right click on the STW icon in the top right and configure the settings.

Testing testing … to see if blocker works.

For those of you that can still see me …

deadlydarcy – Member

deadlydarcy is a died hard JC (not Jesus Christ) supporter so his views are entirely utopian and makes no sense in the common sense world.

deadlydarcy might have two heads so watch out …

See if deadlydarcy response …

Testing testing … 😆

That’s the one, cheers atp.

deadlydarcy – Member
That’s the one, cheers atp.

You still see me? 😆

Its a nice add on as its just saves skimming certain posters

Only minor flaw is when they post you often open a thread and end up t the quote box rather than the last post but I can live with that

IIRC toys 19 and Aracer played a part in its creation

That. Is. Amazing.

EDIT

IIRC toys 19 and Aracer played a part in its creation

Geniuses.

Only thing is if you’re using chrome on iOS, it isn’t an option. (Not sure about Android)