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  • wanmankylung
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    Hopefully – Buckshee Proper Labour.

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    He does seem like a proper lefty, with more than a hint of sandals… Is it too late to join labour so I can vote for him?

    ernie_lynch
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    You don’t have to join the Labour Party to vote in leadership elections, just hand over 3 quid and anyone can vote. I kid you not.

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    I’m a big fan. I recently watched the documentary/film ‘We are Many’ and he made a great impression in that, I thought.

    fr0sty125
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    Well he has my first preference not sure who will be my 2nd and 3rd.

    cheekyboy
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    Yeah, but is he a decent bloke ? apparently andy burnhams a decent bloke, we need more decent blokes !

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    Anyone know what caused him to lose it in that interview the other night – Krishnan Guru-Murthy on C4? Corbyn seems a pretty composed guy normally, but he completely saw his arse over some mildly provocative questioning on the middle east. Strange to see.

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    So by latest accounts, Jezza is doing a pretty good job and may be appointed our next leader of the opposition. Well done to him.

    So what will the next name be

    New, new labour
    New, old labour
    Retro labour
    Hard labour

    Ok not the last one but…..

    ernie_lynch
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    but is he a decent bloke ?

    I think someone should ask him.

    After all we know what sort of person Tony Blair was because he told us, quote : “I think most people who have dealt with me, think I’m a pretty straight sort of guy, and I am.” – Tony Blair, Nov. 1997

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    You don’t have to join the Labour Party to vote in leadership elections, just hand over 3 quid and anyone can vote. I kid you not.

    It is true.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11741861/How-you-can-help-Jeremy-Corbyn-win-and-destroy-the-Labour-Party.html

    whatnobeer
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    He seems to ‘Homeo-meds’ as they work for some people, so maybe a pinch of labour?

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    Interesting that the Telegraph sees him as a threat…

    neilnevill
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    He seems to appeal to core labour party members, but doubt he’d appeal to the general populous. It’s like the Tory party lurchng right took appeal to those that are firm supporters, Corbyn is a step left that appeals to CURRENT members but won’t win new members.

    I’m fearful none of the contenders are serious PM material. Wish Chaka hadn’t dropped out. I think he would have been viable.

    ctk
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    Corbs on Channel 4 News
    Enjoyed this. Seemed to lose temper quickly but agreed with his gist!

    whatnobeer
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    Wish Chaka hadn’t dropped out. I think he would have been viable.

    I’ve not really been following too much but wouldn’t he of taken the party to the right and tried to compete with the Tories on that front?

    I reckon Ed lost partly because he didn’t offer a real alternative. He wasn’t properly left wing so lost votes on that and on the other stuff was too similar to the tories, so lost votes to them as well.

    Imo a proper left wing leader should rejuvenate the party and offer a real alternative that a lot of voters want. It may even lead to a revival in Scotland.

    neilnevill
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    It may. It may also lead to an utter disaster in England.

    Heart says Corbyn. Socialist, honest and I admire him for having principles. Head says labour need a new Blair. (I know, I know). Chaka was viable as that.

    Heart
    Corby, Andy, yvy,Lizzie

    Head
    Oh dear…..yvy, Andy, Lizzy, corby

    allthepies
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    The Tories’ wet dream candidate 🙂

    ernie_lynch
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    And the SNP’s worse nightmare.

    Between them Tony Blair and Gordon Brown lost Labour 5 million votes in the 1997-2010 period, presumably this was because they were too leftwing ?

    cranberry
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    He does seem like a proper lefty, with more than a hint of sandals… Is it too late to join labour so I can vote for him?

    Not at all- there are full instructions here for the concerned conservative voter 😉

    Clicky clicky!

    Interesting that the Telegraph sees him as a threat…

    They really don’t, you know.

    wobbliscott
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    I suspect if he is winning it will be due to conservative politicians and supporters paying three quid and voting for their preferred candidate.

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    Len McClusky’s preferred candidate heading for victory again. He’s got the golden touch. 🙂

    Labour have really sorted out their voting system. Seems watertight! If it is non-Labour supporters signing up and voting for what they think is the ‘least electable’ of the four, then it must have been a difficult choice. 🙂

    Nice sincere bloke, some rather silly ideas, would be a disaster at the next General Election.

    Prime Minister Boris anyone?

    ninfan
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    Risk factor for the tories in this

    What the Tories want (need?) is for any of the ‘king useless rabble to stay the distance

    Risk with Corbyn is that he stays for two years, before they realise he’s wearing Foots donkey jacket, dump him and David Miliband comes back on the scene into the election.

    Solo
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    Prime Minister Boris anyone?

    Stretching the bounds of reality there, I don’t think Boris is even in the running for the Labour party leadership?
    😉

    cranberry
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    Risk with Corbyn is that he stays for two years, before they realise he’s wearing Foots donkey jacket, dump him and David Miliband comes back on the scene into the election.

    Yes, but the Labour party has a much greater number of nutters and extremists supporting it than the Conservatives. Once they get Corbyn in as leader they will fight viciously for him to stay in place. Any moderate, centrist leader following him will still be fighting his own party at the time of the next election.

    I was trying to think of what the Conservative version of electing Corbyn would be – I’d guess it would be digging up and re-animating Enoch Powell.

    I’m looking forward to receiving my vote- £3 well spent.

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    I thought he was quite good, then I saw this;

    I now *really* hope he doesn’t win – if he thinks homeopathy might work because it’s got ‘organic’ things in it then he’s not someone who should lead the country.

    bencooper
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    And the SNP’s worse nightmare.

    I don’t know about that, the SNP would probably welcome a proper Labour Party which actually has some principles and is willing to act like an opposition to the Tories, instead of the useless bunch of abstainers they’ve got to work with at the moment.

    In Scotland, it’s all very entertaining that Labour are totally wiped out, but long-term it’d be good to have a proper Labour Party back here too. The current bunch of Scottish Labour are useless – the UK Labour Party call them the Special Branch, and not in a good way.

    I liked Corbyn, until he announced he approved of homeopathic medicine.

    Edit: Bingo.

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    It’s an insult to Michael Foot to draw comparison between him and Corbyn.

    chambord
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    I’m looking forward to receiving my vote- £3 well spent.

    Dunno, I’d rather have 2 entries to that competition on ITV4

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    I liked Corbyn, until he announced he approved of homeopathic medicine.

    Ahhh. What a plonker – it was looking good right up to the that. But we’ve had plenty of PMs that believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden God before and that’s no better.

    Burnham would seem like a choice that’s a good compromise between head and heart (even though a practising RC).

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    I have no idea who he is but if he looks like a **** he has no chance.
    Labour need a good looking thug.

    allthepies
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    Convert wrote:

    Burnham would seem like a choice that’s a good compromise between head and heart (even though a practising RC).

    He went to the same faith school as Binners! 🙂

    IHN
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    The problem with the left wingers in the Labour party is that they don’t seem to realise that the country as whole is not left wing. As has been proved in basically every election ever, the only way to win is to win over the centre, and really centre-right, ground.

    Corbyn as leader will be as effective at reigning the Tories in as Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock, i.e. not at all.

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    The problem with the left wingers in the Labour party is that they don’t seem to realise that the country as whole is not left wing. As has been proved in basically every election ever, the only way to win is to win over the centre, and really centre-right, ground.

    I guess this is the fundamental behind different attitudes to political governance. What you are advocating is the compromise of your personal opinions and beliefs to appeal to centre ground voters. I guess this works if power is the most important reason for you to be in politics, and there is some truth to only being able to make a proper difference when in power. But personally I find that incredibly depressing. I want politicians of conviction that don’t bend with the wind and stand up for what they truly believe in. I want politicians that only want power to alter the country to their vision. Politicians that turn themselves inside out to makes themselves sufficiently vanilla or worse still have little passion in the first place is a sad state of affairs.

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    Ahhh. What a plonker – it was looking good right up to the that. But we’ve had plenty of PMs that believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden God before and that’s no better.

    Yep Tony Blair decided God told him to restart the Crusades and look at the damage that did….

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    The homeopathy thing is stupid, but didn’t our present health secretary say the same thing?

    That’s much more scary !

    A socialist labour leader would-be great, except that the right ght wing press have already started monstering him before he’s even elected, of course the Tories/right wing. Press/ paymasters are scared of him, they want to keep labour cheap and the plebs in their place!

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    The problem with the left wingers in the Labour party is that they don’t seem to realise that the country as whole is not left wing.

    That’s not the problem. The problem is that many people think it’s ok for politicians and political parties to change their principles and beliefs to whatever will win them power. The point of democracy is to give the people a choice. If all the parties just agree with eachother in order to win power, then it’s pointless and we might as well do away with elections and have a managerialist one party government like China.

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    But ^ that way, convert, you end up a long way from consensus politics as you have a “permanent” opposition with no clout. No influence on the political direction at all. Yes, all your conviction politicians and their supporters will sleep soundly at night because they just know they’re right, but they will have achieved nothing in the real world.

    Labour are at their best, not necessarily when they own the centre right ground, but when everyone else thinks it’s possible they could make enough people believe in the centre left.

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    The problem with the left wingers in the Labour party is that they don’t seem to realise that the country as whole is not left wing.

    Simply untrue. We know that when policies are anonymised, people as a whole are more left wing than their voting patterns might indicate. In any case, if Labour think that people will vote for them on a platform of being slightly less mean than the Tories, then they face oblivion.

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