Official STW General Election Night thread

Compare and contrast Scottish Conservatives under Ruth Davidson v DUP under Arlene Foster. Can’t see them sharing a podium anytime soon.

Corbyn didn’t win FACT. Labour only got 3 more seats than Gordon Brown managed in 2010, so in 7 years of Tory rule Labour haven’t improved.

Yes Corbyn did well over the last few weeks and did at least have some policies. But he is a long, long way away from what Tony Blair managed.

FACT

Oooooh.

Corbyn didn’t win FACT. Labour only got 3 more seats than Gordon Brown managed in 2010, so in 7 years of Tory rule Labour haven’t improved.

Yes Corbyn did well over the last few weeks and did at least have some policies. But he is a long, long way away from what Tony Blair managed

You wanted to type all of that is shouty capitals, didn’t you?

I think a wee nap would do you good dear. 😉

… in spite of the most openly hostile press I can recall.

No worse than they were towards Foot or Kinnock. The British press will try to vilify anyone that’s marginally left of centre.

Jam Bo, not strictly as it’s decided by convention and the rules are extremely vague, the easiest route would be to be given a seat in the lords, although the last time someone became PM the devolved assemblies didn’t exist. Clearly without being an MP it’s extremely unlikely

jonnyboi – Member
Compare and contrast Scottish Conservatives under Ruth Davidson v DUP under Arlene Foster. Can’t see them sharing a podium anytime soon.

Err, have you seen some of Ruth’s friends and supporters? They’ll get along just fine.

There’s no barrel she wouldn’t scrape.

Corbyn didn’t win FACT. Labour only got 3 more seats than Gordon Brown managed in 2010, so in 7 years of Tory rule Labour haven’t improved.

Corbyn improved Labour’s vote share compared with 2005, 2010 and 2015.

It is an absolute success for Corbyn.
There is no other sitting politician that could have faced as much media scrutiny / smearing as this and end up increasing their voter share at a local level, let alone national.

A bit of bad press over social care is minor in comparison to endless infighting, smearing etc that has plagued Corbyn’s leadership.

Anyone suggesting otherwise is simply trying to continue spreading the, now debunked, notion that Corbyn is un-electable, in the hope that saying it enough times will make it come true.

Corbyn improved Labour’s vote share compared with 2005, 2010 and 2015.

You didn’t notice FACT was in capitals then?

How the hell will a DUP coalition work with EVEL???

Corbyn ignored all the received wisdom necessary for Labour to do well: a tax-raising manifesto, Keynesianism, no personal attacks, no shifting to the middle ground, no courting of the right-wing press. All of which was predicted to result in an electoral calamity. It’s remarkable when you think about it.

No worse than they were towards Foot or Kinnock. The British press will try to vilify anyone that’s marginally left of centre.

Be interesting to replay it though but with the Daily Mail and co attacking May and Tories on a daily basis while telling everyone to vote Labour and attacking the rich and greedy corporations.
Would the idiots who but the Daily Mail switch their vote or would they just stop buying the Daily Mail?

so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

BoardinBob – Member
How the hell will a DUP coalition work with EVEL???

I haven’t done the maths. What are the scores on the doors when you exclude all the Scottish and NI MPs?

so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

The precise opposite!

How the hell will a DUP coalition work with EVEL???

Tories can pass alone, they still have more English seats than Lib Dems and Labour.

Boba Fatt – Member

so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

Jesus Christ.

So DUP with less than 300k votes have 10 MPs whilst greens and ukip both with more than 500k votes each have just 1 MP and that’s before you even look at the con / lab vote and MP share 😥

dragon – Member
Corbyn didn’t win FACT. Labour only got 3 more seats than Gordon Brown managed in 2010, so in 7 years of Tory rule Labour haven’t improved.

Somebody’s raging! 😆

Canny wait to see youse when the tory/dup nonsense collapses! much hilarity abounds! 😆

mefty – Member
How the hell will a DUP coalition work with EVEL???
Tories can pass alone, they still have more English seats than Lib Dems and Labour

Including Wales?

Boba Fatt – Member
so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

I suspect a few folks may need to utilize their google powers! 😆

ransos – Member
Corbyn ignored all the received wisdom necessary for Labour to do well: a tax-raising manifesto, Keynesianism, no personal attacks, no shifting to the middle ground, no courting of the right-wing press. All of which was predicted to result in an electoral calamity. It’s remarkable when you think about it.

It’s quite a seismic shift tbh.

Boba Fatt – Member

so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

Posted 5 minutes ago #

And that, ladies and gentleman, is why stuff like Brexit happens. 😐

The single best illustration yet.

317 – 13 = 304>262 + 12 + 1 – 7 – 4

UK ex NI and Scotland

EDIT: Forgot PC but their 4 won’t swing it

Yes Corbyn did well over the last few weeks and did at least have some policies. But he is a long, long way away from what Tony Blair managed.

But Tony Blair was a Tory. You should be comparing Corbyn to what Foot and Kinnock achieved.

What a lovely night I had last night, watching the results come in. There was this…

Then to top it off, we got rid of the odious, homophobic, racist little turd who WAS my MP, with a massive swing to labour….

😀

dannyh

Boba Fatt – Member

so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

And that, ladies and gentleman, is why stuff like Brexit happens.

The single best illustration yet. [/quote]

Every time Northern Ireland gets mentioned here it’s obvious that most posters know little to nothing. But that said I would assume most people would know the Democratic Unionist Party, are not affiliated with the IRA.

There was only one winner in this election.

Errm, Dickyboy, when did UKIP sneak their MP in?

The Mash sums it up nicely

😆

I found it interesting that the whole Indy Ref 2 backlash seems to have benefited the Tories in Scotland and not Labour…

But for those turned over SNP seats near the border the conservatives wouldn’t be close enough to even form up a DUP coalition…

I’ll admit to being pretty clueless about Scottish politics, but why did so many Scots seem to see it as a straight SNP Vs Con’ choice over Indy Ref 2 and Labour didn’t really seem to figure at all?

Is this perhaps a relative failing of the Corbyn campaign, that they didn’t try and make some inroads North of the boarder and borrow some SNP votes like the Tories…

So Labour win in Kensington but fall 64 seats short of a majority?

The world’s gone bloody mad.

Theresa May

Theresa May & the conservatives

The conservative & UNIONIST party! 😆

Labour were actively encouraging voters in some places to vote for the Tories to keep out the SNP. The election fought in Scotland was a different beast altogether to that elsewhere. The Tories made the election all about them being the unionists, they done this more effectively than Labour therefore picked up the hard unionist votes from Labour. Meanwhile some SNP voters returned to Labour on the back of Corbyn and some went to the Tories as leaving the EU was more important to them than independence for Scotland.

seosamh77 – Member
Hmmm, it’s now the conservative and UNIONIST party!

Ya, SNP … independent referendum – dead.

Ya, United Ireland … dead.

UK … Yes.

Woohoo … 😆

Boba Fatt – Member
so does this mean that the Tories are signing a deal with the IRA?

yes and they are calling it the **** you and **** peace we need the loons to prop us up Deal.

or as the mash termed it
May hoping for ‘constructive relationship’ with creationist homophobes who think Pope is Satan

km79 – Member
Labour were actively encouraging voters in some places to vote for the Tories to keep out the SNP. The election fought in Scotland was a different beast altogether to that elsewhere.

dugdale really should walk, the seats they got where in spite of her. Many people in scotland were bursting to vote for labour.

I even know the guy who got elected in my constituency and didn’t give him my vote due to dugdale, I actually wanted to give it to labour due to corbyn. his majority ended up 265, but could have been much much more.

chewkw – Member
seosamh77 – Member
Hmmm, it’s now the conservative and UNIONIST party!
Ya, SNP … independent referendum – dead.

Ya, United Ireland … dead.

UK … Yes.

Woohoo …

Let’s just see how this plays out! 😆

One faaaahsand!

And hearty congrats to Julie Cooper, our excellent local MP.