Charlottesville

Most large city’s in the South are reasonably liberal, however that’s not where the good ol boys live or work.

£3? Or is that $s

Didn’t the governor also threaten to close down the cinemas showing Gone With The Wind 24/6 *

[*Obvious not on the Sabbath ]

deadlydarcy – Member
It’s amazing the loyalty a subscription will buy. Some folk are very easily bought.

yip, it ain’t half noticeable.

RIP Heather Hyer

Usual suspects spouting utter rubbish,
surprised at you Flash, that was a pretty shameful post.

It is beyond madness that a group of people can go on a march and feel that they need to be wearing bullet proof vests, military clothing and carrying assault rifles, never mind being allowed to do so.

I blame the blues brothers

Whilst I am used to the CPt doing whatabouterry [ and only discussing the left] on any thread where right wingers are being criticised he has slumped to new depths of credibility with bring both Corbyn and Venezuela into this debate.

Pretty please could you either criticise right wingers [ what I term discussing the topic] when they do something or STFU as your whatabouterry is beneath you and this forum. Imagine if I just responded to any Corbyn post by discussing irrelevant right wingers in another country….would you be impressed by this or view it relevant?

A fuller version of Trump’s response to this terrorist attack:

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence, on many sides. On many sides.”
No way Trump wrote that tweet

Flashy clearly hit a nerve with the loons. His comparison is clear and justified, and the subsequent vitriol directed his way is also entirely predictable. The loons’ angry denials doesn’t change reality it only reinforces how disconnected they are. Left wing violence is the inconvenient truth and Corbyn’s support for violent marxist regimes is a valid comparison to draw on a thread about political violence.

entirely predictable.

Yup. Some things you can set your watch by.

Marco Rubio thinks Trump should be calling out against white supremacist terrorists:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/12/charlottesville-protest-trump-condemns-violence-many-sides

His position on Corbyn re Venezuela, however, remains unclear.

#boycottpost-its

right hook

No need for a picture of an ironing board

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/venezuela-2

😀

But agree RIP Heather – condemn all violence and murder

No way Trump wrote that tweet

Spot on.

Unless he’s had plenty of covfefe obviously.

surprised at you Flash, that was a pretty shameful post.<THIS!

😆

Madness. How the police allow the counter demonstration I do not know. It all just predictably blows up from there.

– Some swivel eyed right winger.

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

– Some black dude writing from a gaol in Birmingham, Alabama.

CFH has a point
True but not a popular one it seems. Probably something to do with balance.

His point is a fair one its his timing and the whataboutery that is way off.

Possibly, AA, but then so is the predictable reaction (even if the myopic lack of balance is ironically amusing)

“Shameful” – 😯

even if the myopic lack of balance is ironically amusing

Oh the irony

teamhurtmore – Member

Classy stuff.

Yes, in fact considerably classier than his post deserved. But I can see why you’ve decided to respond to our posts rather than to comment on his.

Having seen the video of the armed white supremacists in Charlotteville I think it took some courage to turn out to protest against them.

His point is a fair one

Except of course that the neo-nazis and KKK supporters are claiming legitimacy from the election of Donald Trump… after all, they got him elected… (or so they claim). Might explain why he can’t just come out and condemn them.

Which makes his point completely irrelevant.

And besides, have you seen his shoes?

But I can see why you’ve chosen to respond to our posts

Well that’s excellent news and progress. Let’s see how/if you have taken it in…

rather than to comment on his

My comments are very clear. Condemn all violence and murder- you can read them up above. But spoiler alert – they are balanced, so might not go down too well. CFH tried a version earlier but his went down like a cup of cold sick. “Shameful” apparently….

And besides, have you seen his shoes?

Has Trump?

after all, they got him elected…

All 500 of them?

The only person who got Trump elected was Hillary. Very few people voted for Trump. Less voted for Hillary.

Are you sure about that?

Err righto

Has Trump?

covfefe

It would appear so…

What’s flashy been paying for?

All 500 of them?

There are only 500 neo-nazis and KKK supporters in the US? You sure about that?

Re. the actual votes cast in the last US election, go check and see who won the popular vote. Was it 3 million more that voted for Hilary (using your logic though, they were only voting against Trump…)?

What’s flashy been paying for?

Fashion crimes against humanity.

The only person who got Trump elected was Hillary. Very few people voted for Trump. Less voted for Hillary.

To be fair, more voted for Hillary, just in the wrong places (whether they all had a right to vote is a different issue, of course)

Having seen the video of the armed white supremacists in Charlotteville I think it took some courage to turn out to protest against them.

Don’t forget, if the protesters had had cars they could have run the attacker over before he drove into them

When i rode across the us 20 years ago the only place we were hassled was charlotesville. The locals thought it q entertaining to drive past us shouting in their pickups. I couldnt understand a word they were shouting but they didnt seem v friendly. We carried on…

Our pet right wing nut jobs are now talking about Hilary. 😆

To be fair, more voted for Hillary, just in the wrong places (whether they all had a right to vote is a different issue, of course)

Fair enough. Compare how many voted for Obama with Hillary and you’ll see the problem. It wasn’t an increase in the Republican vote, there was a collapse in the Democrat vote.

500 rednecks had nothing to do with it.

Don’t forget, if the protesters had had cars they could have run the attacker over before he drove into them

They should just have borrowed an ICBM off NK, problem solved…

Fair enough. Compare how many voted for Obama with Hillary and you’ll see the problem. It wasn’t an increase in the Republican vote, there was a collapse in the Democrat vote.

– Sauce

Third time lucky, maybe?

Jamie, don’t be going dragging facts in to it. It just confuses the poor dear.

This was posted on Facebook by a friend of mine. The source is a locked post made by a friend of his. I’m reposting with permission.

“I think I’m out of social media spoons for the weekend. Before I go, I just want to be sure we’re all clear on what just happened.

A rally was organized called “Unite the Right” in Charlottesville, VA to show support among the various “right wing” groups. The groups included white supremacist groups like Identity Evropa, men’s rights activist groups like the Proud Boys, white nationalists like the Traditionalist Worker Party, and literal actual National Socialists. Not “oh I don’t like their ideas so I’ll call them Nazis”. Actual self-described Nazis. They went out, bought torches, and marched through the University of Virginia last night with nearly no police presence, and openly assaulted (and admitted on twitter to assaulting) a small group of peaceful unarmed anti-Nazi protesters. A number of prominent Republicans (e.g. Orrin Hatch) condemned the rally, but the president remained silent.

The group of Nazis and their supporters marched again today, again with little police presence. David Duke, former grand wizard of the KKK spoke at the rally saying “We are determined to take this country back. We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he’s going to take our country back, and that’s what we’re going to do.”

The anti-Nazi protesters were at a separate location, to avoid conflicts. Then a white supremacist got in his car, drove to them, and drove his car into the crowd of peaceful anti-Nazi protesters, injuring 19 and killing 1 of them.

Again prominent Republicans condemned hatred, white supremacy, and Nazis. After the violence, the president finally made a statement, condemning “this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides”. To my mind, it should be clear that the hatred and bigotry is isolated to one specific side. This was literally a group of Nazis and Nazi supporters. Every other condemnation I have seen from both Republicans and Democrats has directly called out Nazis and white supremacists (although mostly overlooking the men’s rights activists). All of them except the one, who seems to think “many sides” are at fault. This is where our country is.

I would like to post this publicly, but honestly, I’m afraid. I don’t feel confident that I would be protected. I don’t think that I can rely on the people of this country.”

Don’t worry Cougar, there’s only 5 hunner of em, Elefie says so, must be fact.

Next time, antifa just needs to take their cars….

The anti-Nazi protesters were at a separate location, to avoid conflicts. Then a white supremacist got in his car, drove to them, and drove his car into the crowd of peaceful anti-Nazi protesters, injuring 19 and killing 1 of them.

Again prominent Republicans condemned hatred, white supremacy, and Nazis. After the violence, the president finally made a statement, condemning “this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides”. To my mind, it should be clear that the hatred and bigotry is isolated to one specific side. This was literally a group of Nazis and Nazi supporters. Every other condemnation I have seen from both Republicans and Democrats has directly called out Nazis and white supremacists (although mostly overlooking the men’s rights activists). All of them except the one, who seems to think “many sides” are at fault. This is where our country is.

So this is the occasion where it’s now OK to burden an entire community with collective responsibility for the ‘lone wolf’ actions of an individual and expect community leaders to condemn the actions and apologise on the communities behalf?

Interesting