Boris Johnson!

Your occasional reminder that just because they give themselves silly titles and gaudy baubles, you do not have to play along.

Your occasional reminder mentioning something isnt playing along. It helps point out the stupidity of it.
I guess we are lucky its just a bauble and not a seat in the lords to make decisions.
Speaking of which Houchen is a somewhat odd choice to get approval considering the current questions.

Theoretically at least that would be possible as he was born in New York State,

He did give up citizenship though since they kept sending him tax bills.
So would keep the lawyers amused as to whether if he did regain citizenship that would count as natural born citizen still or not.

I reckon he’ll end up as editor of the Daily Telegraph.

Does this mean Brexit is officially dead now?

These people haven’t the remotest idea what it’s like to deal with all the recent increases in mortgage payments, let alone what it’s like to live on Universal Credit and be dependent on food banks to eat

This is all just a game to them

There’s an article on travelling with Rishi on the U.K. plane.

They don’t even travel like normal people, flying privately is so different to what we now have to put up with.

I don’t think they actually use anything they as a government are supposedly responsible for.

All the things they have screwed up are all things they don’t use or the cost makes no difference.

Does this mean Brexit is officially dead now?

It’s just sleeping.

Gotta find and elect a government with a political desire to get back in.

Does this mean Brexit is officially dead now?

Cancers don’t just give up.

Does this mean Brexit is officially dead now?

Quite an interesting question, was/is Brexit intrinsically linked to Bozza? Or was it merely the runaway political freight train he lashed his career to?

I’d contend that we’re stuck with Brexit despite Boris leaving the commons. Both as a tiresome political topic for various figures to try and convince the hard of thinking to vote their way, and the practical reality of its implementation (or lack thereof). Brexit will never be ‘done’, it is our national burden forevermore…

These people haven’t the remotest idea what it’s like to deal with all the recent increases in mortgage payments, let alone what it’s like to live on Universal Credit and be dependent on food banks to eat

Disagree.

This doesn’t apply to all of them, in fact a goodly number are just ordinary working folk in a middle-income paying job that can disappear on a whim – but you wouldn’t think that with how they act.  And after the next election there’ll be a fair number of them signing on, just like the rest of us would when we’ve lost our job and haven’t another lined up.

I’m not feeling sorry for them, just pointing out reality.

We already know how this will go. Farage has already been wanging on for years that ‘Brexit has been Betrayed’, Boris has already flagged up that he plans to bang the same drum.

You’d think that’d be a step too far for the man who negotiated the withdrawal agreement then claimed to have ‘Got Brexit Done’ , but that would be massively underestimating both how brazen he is and also how stupid the average ERG Boris-supporting backbencher is

Gove on Radio 4 just now. Should be on Fighting Talk on Radio 5.

Brexit will never be ‘done’, it is our national burden forevermore

Yep anything we do to diverge from the eu will will trigger stuff against us and anyway we haven’t implemented the import checks fully.

It’s not a binary thing more of an ongoing ordeal that they won’t really want to talk about.

Gove on Radio 4 just now. Should be on Fighting Talk on Radio 5.

He’d get full points for the ‘defending the indefensible’ round

Particularly that its nothing to do with Good ‘ol Boris that the members of the parliamentary standards committee having now received death threats and have all got additional security after Johnsons ‘Kangaroo Court’ rant.

All just another normal day in post-Brexit-Toryland

That Gove interview has put me in a foul mood. Arguing both sides against the middle, one minute arguing that you must follow precedent, arguing the opposite 30 seconds later when it suits him – and not being properly interviewed anyway. Slippery little shit.

I think he was actually ideological about being Education Minister under Cameron, but when he was exposed as a bit of a crank and a total stroker as a result, he gave up all commitment to anything and just went fully for his own personal advancement. An arch cynic who I would really like to see in a dock alongside Johnson and Cummings charged with treason one day.

Brexit dead?

Brexit is the zombified MacGuffin of the right wing.

The Sunlit Uplands that can never be reached because Traitors.

The Opportunities that were Betrayed by The Wokerati Liberal Bicycle Riding Communist Lentil Eaters Remoaners.

Every time, somehow, it will fail to be The-Brexit-That-Was-Promised, because we, the unbelievers, Didn’t Believe Hard Enough.

A convenient catch all banner for right wing politicians to wave at the hard of thinking.

Brexit is the zombified MacGuffin of the right wing.

The Sunlit Uplands that can never be reached because Traitors.

The Opportunities that were Betrayed by The Wokerati Liberal Bicycle Riding Communist Lentil Eaters Remoaners.

Every time, somehow, it will fail to be The-Brexit-That-Was-Promised, because we, the unbelievers, Didn’t Believe Hard Enough.

A convenient catch all banner for right wing politicians to wave at the hard of thinking.

Nailed it.

This doesn’t apply to all of them, in fact a goodly number are just ordinary working folk in a middle-income paying job that can disappear on a whim – but you wouldn’t think that with how they act.  And after the next election there’ll be a fair number of them signing on, just like the rest of us would when we’ve lost our job and haven’t another lined up.

I’m not feeling sorry for them, just pointing out reality.

Im not sure many ex-MPs end up signing on.  They get a sizeable payment (a years salary?) if they don’t get re-elected – I think many of us would find that security reassuring!  They either have previous careers to return to,    Or they are now very well networked people with an understanding of the working of Whitehall – that makes them ideal for lobbying, non-exec director roles, charity advocacy positions etc.  on top of which they have a pension scheme that is VERY favourable, and means that many of those who get unseated don’t have to wait that long before we are funding them again!

I don’t have a better option because I don’t want politician s to be trust fund kids or funded by back door bribes but I’m fairly confident that serving MPs are not directly feeling the pinch quite like ordinary people (and if you think they are – perhaps you are comparing them to yourself and you are not ordinary people!).

Nailed it.

Standing on the shoulder of giants.

Many others far cleverer than I have pointed out, it means whatever anyone wants it to mean, it means everything and nothing, at the same time, a perfect doublethink.

Ignorance is Strength, War is Peace.

I Love The Brexit.

Im not sure many ex-MPs end up signing on.

A lot seem to struggle.
There was this more recent report although its high level.

The well paid jobs are a minority and mostly reserved for those who spent more time planning their future than serving the country and their constituents.

I do find the claim about “losing the job on a whim” by intheborders odd though. Pretty much all of us can lose our job on a whim and by someone elses poor decision making. Most of us dont have the advantage of a five year contract though (outside of special cases).

in fact a goodly number are just ordinary working folk in a middle-income paying job that can disappear on a whim

Oh god not this one again.  MPs are highly paid with huge subsidies and very generous expenses  £86000 is not “middle income”  they also get enormous severnce benefits

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-from-1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax

Max Hastings getting stuck into him again

This – from Max Hastings in @thetimes – is absolutely the first, last and only word on that reprobate of a prime minister, Boris Johnson ? pic.twitter.com/cHOtFwpcn9

— Dr Rachel Clarke (@doctor_oxford) June 11, 2023

Meanwhile, the word doing the rounds is that his former parliamentary assistant Charlotte Owen, 29, who he’s made a life peer in his honours list is actually one of his many illegitimate offspring

Well, its either that or the rather more obvious reason that springs immediately to mind

The problem I have with Hastings and co is they were more than happy to encourage his behaviour when it suited them.
It was under Hastings that Johnson spread lies about the EU as it was easier than doing his job properly.

I know what you mean, but to be fair to Hastings he did sack him for lying and has been happy to tell anyone who’ll listen that he’s a lying charlatan ever since.

In the terrifyingly long list of Boris enablers and apologists, he’s nowhere near the top of the list

As for the other issue…

It’s a sad state of affairs when people are speculating about whether Johnson shagged or fathered the young woman he made life peer and nobody would be surprised if either were true. I mean, any of us could be Boris Johnson’s offspring, he has **** the entire country.

— Supertanskiii (@supertanskiii) June 12, 2023

Allegra Mostyn-Owen was apparently Boris’ first wife 5 September 1987 – 26 April 1993…

So it looks like daddy was denied a peerage, but daughter accepted.

Just for a moment,let us put to one side,all his incompetence,lying,shagging,more lying,work avoidance and turning high office into a (bad)circus performance .
What do we really think is going to happen to him?
Run away to a real circus.
Prison
Poverty and destitution.
Deportation to America.
His granny was French, so he could be sent to live with his dad in France.
or
Reprogrammed.
Ben Jennings

I know what you mean, but to be fair to Hastings he did sack him for lying

Nope. He hired him after Johnson was sacked from the Times for being a lying turd (specifically making up some quotes and then lying about it). He was happy with the lying turd as the brussels correspondence despite numerous reports of him simply making shit up.
Many of the lies about EU laws came from this period with Johnson lying through his teeth and Hastings allowing it since a)it helped undermine the perception of the EU in the UK and b)it was apparently considered good entertainment.
Whilst he isnt at the top of the list of enablers he deserves special credit for being one of the earlier ones who ensured Johnson knew his actions wouldnt have consequences.

Oh god not this one again.  MPs are highly paid with huge subsidies and very generous expenses  £86000 is not “middle income”  they also get enormous severnce benefits

Oh god not this one again.

They’re only “highly paid” if you’re poorly paid – many (tens of thousands at least) in the NHS for example are on equivalent packages.

Expenses are to cover spending you own money on allowable items – I suspect you’ve never done a job that required this.  I have, my monthly expenses were often more than my monthly gross salary.

You’re talking of approximately 5% of earners, and nearer 10% if you include all income (earned & unearned), so there’s millions of us.

What do we really think is going to happen to him?

The next year or so is going to be raking in the cash doing speeches. At the next election he might try to get parachuted into a safe seat at the last minute so that if, as looks to be the case, the tories get hammered he can remerge as the future king.
Almost certainly going to be paid a shitload as a newspaper pundit as well. That 250k from the telegraph will be chickenfeed for him now.
Oh and obviously write his autobiography explaining why everything good was him and everything bad was someone else.
He might even finish his Shakespeare book.

So sadly, in summary, he will continue to rake in the cash and not face any real repercussions for screwing the country.

I hope he just **** off.  I no longer care if he is even held to account, I just want him to go away and never be heard of again

As for the rich / poor thing.  Please don’t start that again.

You’re talking of approximately 5% of earners, and nearer 10% if you include all income (earned & unearned),

so not middle earners then but the top few % at nearly 3x average  Point made.

sorry for doing this again but it really gets my goat when folk claim the richest few % in our society are “middle earners”!  I won’t answer on it again

MP’s get over twice the mean or median UK salaries, so they are not “only “highly paid” if you’re poorly paid ” they are highly paid if you are a “middle income” earner.

rats in a sack

Breaking:

Boris Johnson accuses Rishi Sunak of ‘talking rubbish’ over claims he asked him to over-rule Holac

‘Rishi Sunak is talking rubbish. To honour these peerages it was not necessary to overrule Holac – but simply to ask them to renew their vetting, a mere formality.'

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 12, 2023

Rats in a sack

I do think its nicely fitting that all the people who foisted the fly-tipped sofa onto the rest of us are now going to be at the receiving end as he lobs hand grenades everywhere and takes everyone down with him.

We all knew how this would play out, but they all went ahead and did it anyway. I bet there’s loads of senior Tories who are absolutely bricking it about what a scorned Boris, petulant man-baby that he is, is going to do next

We all knew how this would play out, but they all went ahead and did it anyway.

See also Brexit.

The schadenfreude is magnificent, but it cannot in any way come close to making up for the anger at all the bad stuff that was pointed out in advance coming to fruition now.

The Sunlit Uplands that can never be reached because Traitors.

It’s stab-in-the-back, post-colonial revanchism for sure. You thought the Rhodesians, Corbynites or Putinites were bitter about their “betrayals”? Let’s see what the next decade of increasingly bonkers Tories brings.

New job announced

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/three-hundreds-of-chiltern

(not really – it’s an anachronism but I do like these weird procedural elements)

Boris probably thinks it is a paying gig!!!

Three hundreds of children more like.

well Chequers is in the Chilterns , so I supposed he might have been keeping his hand in ………………

Chequers is in the Chilterns , so I supposed he might have been keeping his hand in ………

From Wiki

As the area was wild and notorious for outlaws, a steward and bailiff was appointed directly by the Crown (thus as a royal bailiwick it was a legal office answerable to the reigning monarch) to maintain law and order.

Is it irony that (partly, at least) because of his lawbreaking in the Chiltern Hundreds, he loses his job, but can’t resign so instead becomes the Crown servant particularly appointed to keep law and order in the Chiltern 100’s.