Indeed.

Just been reading that too, it would make sense if true.

The full text of the conversation is on the web no one is denying it.

Anyone got a link to this?

What’s is / where is this?

Edit: see it. Holy shit – Catt walked out, Lancaster never coached and Farrell Snr ran the show? Team unhappy that Burrel went home, Burgess and possibly Farrell Snr universally unliked?

Jesus, if that’s true….

Well no. And it answers why Lancaster himself is questioning his tenure by not make a more positive statement. He – allegedly – knows he’s been bullied and the players don’t have faith, and the revelation of such post World Cup is a humiliation he doesn’t want to bear.

Explains everything – Farell jnrs regular appearances, Burgess inclusion, League style back play. No wonder Catts been quiet…

If Lancaster let Farrel run the show then its Lancaster’s fault ultimately.
Also what’s “league style back play”?

I believe that refers to one dimensional boshing (and then putting in a grubber or high ball on the final tackle) 😉

I think I pointed out way back that when you looked at the histories of the people involved then Andy Farrell must be hard-as-nails and totally uncompromising to have achieved everything he did in RL.

Plenty of reports of rifts between Catt and Farrell too. The fact that Burgess was in the 31 and the subsequent match day 23s shows that someone with no understanding of Union was picking the team. It also seems that no account was taken of what the players thought.

On the plus side, although the RFU recently said that they’d make SL available for the Lions tour (seriously) it seems now he’ll be able to devote all his time to it. 😆

I do love the major chip on its shoulder the RFU continues to have about “the other code”, as if they’re the sort of embarrassing family one doesn’t want to own up to being related to.

Is just gentle ribbing: rugby union is a game of territory, rugby league is a game of territory and possession.

Beyond that both codes continue to have lots to learn from each other. The RFU and its fans would do well not to forget that….

Sorry guys may I hi-jack the thread a little (this was the obvious place to ask my question)

Any of you good men with coaching experience??

May I have a moment of your time please…. Under 6 coaching/training/general messing about …. otherwise known has Herding Cats…. Can anyone recommend any literature for training exercises/games please

Loads online but would prefer a physical book that I and the other dads helping out can look at together.

Also will be doing some kind of formal training at some point, can you recommend which courses to take?

And any other tips would be great as well.

Not trying to take it too seriously …. But want the training to be fun and engaging… with the aim of keeping as many as the 30 odds kids we have at the start still with us at the end of the year.

thanks

Remember the content of those tweets were alledged then refuted.

Now I know you’re just trolling.

I’d like to see Wales give it a go against Oz, strongest squad possible hammer and tongs stuff and beat them…downhill to the final then with only the sweaties or Japan to beat.

Mate you need to put the RL vs RU thing down and look at it objectively. Farrell was a poor RU player, and he’s a poor RU coach. SLs biggest mistake was employing him, and it’s my absolute belief that it significantly contributed to englands poor performance. He needs to be sent to a prem or even championship club as a defence coach and serve his time. I’m all for learning from RL, just with the caveat that they take time to really learn the nuances of the game before being catapulted into the top jobs.

Nor me, and it would be a great shame. He’s a great athlete and a born champion as well as a good bloke. As you said, he could be a very good back row player in a couple of seasons.

Like some kind of hideous, rugby inspired, mash up of Groundhog Day and Back to the Future?

Didn’t I read that Burgess doesn’t even like playing 12, he feels like he’s not involved enough and much prefers playing at 6. The obvious challenge with that is it means that then Lancaster had to drop either his captain or his vice-captain.

Anyway, enough of this, as Dallaglio says, now time to pick a team that’s still in it and support them instead. With this in mind, and nothing to do with the fact that I think they’ll win it, Allez Les Bleus!!!!