Marler was aware of his nickname so used it as a term of endearment ?

My point was in reference to your comment that his mates can call him gypsy boy but his opponents cannot and what’s more should be hauled up in front of a world rugby disciplinary committee for doing so.

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It is a bit/lot more comparable though is it not?

Then there three lads outside the back doing some Tarmacking. I noticed they were having lunch a bit close to my van and they had Irish accents. So I went outside and told them to **** off back to their caravans and stay away from my van. Turns out it was a tennis court they were laying and that they have this company doing mega high-end jobs, they have a Royal Crest and everything – bunch of middle class drop-outs, much like myself. I apologised later – told them about the incident on the scaffolding – they accepted that in the heat of the moment, one is allowed to let standards slip to the point of stereotyping. We’re all good now. I think the site-manager’s boss wants a word about it all tomorrow. The SM is a bit pissed off at being second-guessed.

Yep, none of which was done by me.

DD – I’d say you’ve squared away your issues nicely, and the site manager just wants to willy-wave an assert his authority rather than actually worried about what happened. Probably covering his arse too in case his boss gets a call from a passer-by outraged by racist behaviour on his site.

I always thought that you sold post it notes DD……

……wait no, I remember now, that’s the posh English Welsh **** isn’t it.

I spent 15 years in a military environment where harsh banter every day kept you going in shit places. I’ve been called all sorts, and am pretty hard to offend.

I’m also married to an employment lawyer, who’s always telling me I’m wrong, and why things are legal/illegal/unjustifiable whatever I may think!!

If it was convenient for me to believe 2nd and 3rd hand accounts of what’s been said and who’s said it, I’d be quoting it as if it was gospel too.

Anyone for pudding? 🙄

Really? The world gets crazier, but there were always three options

1. Treat the issue in a sensible manner as those directly involved did
2. Cherry pick rules to suit the colour of the relevant armchair
3. Apply the rules consistently

As from the outset, IMO 1 was the appropriate response, then 3. In contrast 2 is clearly the worst of the lot.

Rules are clear: no abuse involving – religion, race, colour, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation or (the catch all) otherwise. No hierarchy there, just simple rules.

AA recall the John Terry issue – My memory suggests that the insult was F…., B…., C….

Off the three words, the only one that was deemed relevant was the one that newspapers were allowed to print ie, the qualifying race adjective (black) The words that were too rude for papers to print had no bearing on the issue. So we have precedent that calling someone a C…, even a fu……. C….is ok. But heaven forbid if you add a qualifying race or national origin adjective to the insult.

So we now have a situation in which (allegedly) two players uee race//national or ethnic orientation when abusing each other. If this is true, do we need clearer (sic) rules that introduce a hierarchy of offensiveness or do we apply the rules as they stand?

Of should the common sense of those involved prevail?

Well then the rules need to be changed don’t they. But, as they stand at the moment, and IF the comments attributed to Lee are accurate, then WR either applies their rules correctly or they cherry pick. Which is better or worse?

well the French would go with Rosbif, the Scots Sassenach, my Welsh mates always used to wind me up calling me Dai 😆
If someone calls me a “Shandy drinker” is that an ethnic slur? What about Scouser? You could say that Welsh (foreigner in Anglo-Saxon) is a racial slur all Welshmen should all be called Cymri.

Whilst I understand the serious context that any sort of bigotry is inappropriate, I still thinks this is a storm in a teacup.
What I do want to know is what Samson’s nickname in the Welsh locker room is.

Two weeks after the game and you’re still involved. What does that say about you?

In the meantime any talk about the many rugby games that have been played in the last fortnight has ceased. As usual – these STW rugby threads always disappear into a morass of bickering and point scoring, always involving the same handful of people.

this

which is why in the past 3 weeks bickering has been preferable to match discussions 🙁