Training and diet talk…

LOL @ Bruce – there is actually no such thing as the iDave diet, you should now have access to the other forum though.

Ed.

Another selective response to the points I’ve posted.
This time you’ve selected Gluten, but ignored Phytate and Lectins…………….

Is not your selective posting equally insulting ?.

Like you take this superior stance towards us, you assuming that you can tell us how it really is, and that we’re too dumb to have a valid, if contradictory opinion, to the Edukator.
You have consistently ignored the info and links I have posted.
This is not a mistake or oversight on your behalf.

Just look at the pseudo name you have selected for yourself.
Hardly a good start is it.

You’re here to Edukate me, but if I ask you a question about, for example, phytate in your much loved bread.
You ignore this.

Therefore, as far as I’m concerned.
You have no currency here.

You’re just trolling.
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Solo – “Whatever you are eating is your diet.”

Well done correct. However , I eat pretty much what I want, when I want. I havent had to change my eating habbits or lifestyle (ie spending more time cooking etc)

Diets are things where people generally follow a strict regieme, different to normal eating habbits, and most people who follow diets tend to revert to poor eating habbits after a period of time and put weight back on.

I considered doing the iDiet (more as people were saying they felt so much better on it) and was forwarded the original pdf info. I looked at it and thought it wasn’t possible with my lifestlye, and that I would miss eating nice food.

I think its great that some one has shared their knowledge for free and I think its great that so many people are benefiting from it, but if its meant for avg Joe, are people loosing weight because they are not eating so much sh!t as they were before, and they could easily have acheived weight loss by cutting out the McDonalds meal anyhow? Diets are good because they force people to change habit (on a temporary basis) but then they tend to go back to their lardy ways.

LOL @ Bruce – there is actually no such thing as the iDave diet, you should now have access to the other forum though.

“You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick iDave ever pulled was convincing the world his diet existed. And like that, poof. Beanz.”

My thoughts are that as long as the intensity of the exercise is high it gets you leaner

I’m not saying that.

High intensity exercise on an empty stomach isn’t what I’d undertake.

LOL @ Bruce – there is actually no such thing as the iDave diet, you should now have access to the other forum though.

You mean all these arguments are about nothing?

Don’t you people have jobs?

See I’m interested in all this stuff, I just wish the conversation was easier to follow. There seem to be a handful of people with a lot of history who assume we’ve read everything they’ve written, which I haven’t. You’re putting the rest of us off you know 🙂

It is what I’d do though 🙂

home made baked beans, with a grilled chicken breast for brekkie.
2 fillets of steamed fish, with a large portion of garden pea’s for lunch.
salmon fillet with roast peppers, garlic, onion, broccoli, parsnip and toms for tea.

i feel worse every day…….. 😆

Sorry Stever… what do you want to know?

Do you want me to write a iCharacter guide?

Solo – I just read some stuff on phytic acid? I don’t see the problem?

home made baked beans, with a grilled chicken breast for brekkie.
2 fillets of steamed fish, with a large portion of garden pea’s for lunch.
salmon fillet with roast peppers, garlic, onion, broccoli, parsnip and toms for tea.

i feel worse every day……..

No-one likes a smuggins, Ton.

*ducks fish pie*

To lose 2.3 kilograms you need to burn 16 000 calories worth of body fat. A calorie deficit of over 2000 calories a day is a lot especially for a sedentary person (an hour on a home trainer is negligible). I suggest the weight loss came from different levels of hydration and bowel content.

I haven’t accused anyone of being dumb and have remained civil despite the insults. As for my pseudo, objecting to it demonstrates you’re looking for any excuse to attack me rather than enter into debate. We obviously don’t have the same cultural references:

Ton – thas comendable, but how long did it take you to prep your breakfast?

ie Beans have to solk for 24hrs, then you have to make the source. A chicken takes about 1.5hrs to cook in the oven.

I have 30 mins in the morning to do everything, let alone cooking a meal…

Diets are things where people generally follow a strict regieme, different to normal eating habbits, and most people who follow diets tend to revert to poor eating habbits after a period of time and put weight back on.

You are refering to the marketing men’s definition of Diet

Diet is actually the history of what you have eaten and continue to eat.

Diets are good because they force people to change habit (on a temporary basis) but then they tend to go back to their lardy ways.

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What you mean by Diet and we are discussing are two different things dude.
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so TSY.. what ya training for? getting buff? marathons?

Seems like you’re doing 400 hours a week of intense exercise. gym work.. swimming before work

so TSY.. what ya training for? getting buff? marathons?

He has a race coming up against Molgrips, I think.

Triathlon. Need to bite the bullet and get by BCU race licence too.

you’re looking for any excuse to attack me rather than enter into debate

Another dodge by the Edukator.

How can I enter into a debate with you if you do not answer or respond to the points I raise ?.

I find your continued avoidance of the points I raise, insulting.
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All here can now see your selective responses.
What you choose and what you do not choose to discuss….

I’m assuming TSY is extremely buff with his sub 10% bodyfat and super fast with all his training. 😀

I vote Ton for iDave masterchef, or how about an iDave come dine with me….. 🙂

In case Solo missed it on the previous page:

Just in case Solo missed the post just above mine:

On the off chance Solo scrolled down too quickly:

tricky… unfortunately, and in defiance of STW tradition, yeti is extremely buff and super fast.

i managed to keep up with him on our last ride together though. so he might be slipping….

I vote Ton for iDave masterchef, or how about an iDave come dine with me…..

Plus 1 for Ton.

Ton.
Your getting far too good at this good food stuff.
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whatever that image is my university is blocking it! It’s not you with your top again, is it Edukator?

funkydunc, beans were made at the weekend in 1 big batch, and it takes 10mins to grill the chicken on the formby……. 8)

It’s OK, I found it myself. Thanks for the help everyone.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bw_T87IBJ5crZTE0YmU1OTMtOGM0Yy00MTk5LTk1OGUtMjY5NzY1NDk4YWNi/edit?authkey=CNeXx-wG&pli=1

Jamie.

You’re pulling all that out of your ass ??.

No wonder iDiet didn’t work for you.
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If I don’t reply it could be that I recognise the value of the research you quote but consider it a minor factor that might concern some people but isn’t worth worrying about for the vast majority of people, Solo. For almost every food you can find research to indicate there are negatives. You didn’t reply to link I posted about the negatives of a high protein diet, I’m not insulted. Look at the amount of insult and provocation thrown at me on this thread (now that’s trolling not posting opinions) I don’t do page long Junkyard style disecting defences.

Look at the amount of insult and provocation thrown at me on this

And then ask yourself what you could have done differently.
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Bit confused about how red wine can be included as a No Calories drink.

Is this still the right place to ask these kind of questions?

I could have called people names, been sarcastic or condescending, Solo, I didn’t. I think just presenting an alternative view using simple straghtforward English is better.

“iDave accuses me of being incapable of changing my mind whilst refusing to consider changing his.”

Hmm. But I already changed my view, several years ago, from your bread and pasta free-for-all. In fact I’ve changed my views this week on some nutrition and performance strategies, based on evidence presented by people better qualified than I.

So, simple question for you Edukator. Could it be ‘possible’ that your views are incorrect? Not saying they are, asking if they ‘could’ be? Yes or no is fine.

Edukator……you put the fear of god into me, saying that the food i eat will send me to a early grave with a horrible illness….. 😉

Is there another thread where I can ask questions?

Its funny how cyclists always end up talking about food….

I could have called people names, been sarcastic or condescending, Solo, I didn’t. I think just presenting an alternative view using simple straghtforward English is better

I’d expect nothing less than for you to try to paint yourself whiter than white.

But dismissing info, and insisting that your information, although outdated.
Is the only true way.
Is insulting.

I do not contest that you can lose and maintain a weight on your diet combined with your level of activity.

But there are alternatives which appear to take into account more recent observations made in science.

Has not our understanding of geology changed over time, with advancements in discovery and technology used to observe and measrue ?.

So why hasn’t understanding of diet moved on since that employed to advise the French olympic team ?.

Ok, thats enough.
all sides are entrenched in their view, with little prospect of change or agreement.
I do not think I can give anymore, here.
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Edukator – Member
For almost every food you can find research to indicate there are negatives.

You didn’t reply to link I posted about the negatives of a high protein diet…

ummm….