Training and diet talk…

There’s nothing wrong with being a little portly!

Fibs, the lot of it.

DG once atested to the fact that TSY has clearly visible Abs.

DG, dont get me started on her, she’s not even dirty, showers every day from what i hear!!

serious question time, how the MUTHAFLIP do you get rid of love handles?

I would post a picture but it’ll make me look a bit of a *****-bag.

I’m almost a stone lighter than the last time I was in Scotlandshire.

Phil – I could tell you.

you posted the QR kit yet?

it is basically diet? working the core will only build muscles underneath the love handles 🙁 deep down i know the answer, but i’m not prepared to do the gym on the way home as well as the way to work to increase my calorie deficit, not when i could be out messing around on bicycles

post a photo, i can print it out and put it over the big box of charity sweets that was delivered to my office yesterday!

I gave it to the post-monkey yesterday… I’ve even included some Haribo.. á la Wiggle.

I’ll pose in my undies later… there are very few pics of me in existance… shy etc.

send the photos to my phone, i’ll be able to enjoy them better that way

serious question time, how the MUTHAFLIP do you get rid of love handles?

Phil – I could tell you.
Oh yeah ?……

I would post a picture but it’ll make me look a bit of a *****-bag. like a bit of an Edukator

I miss Edukator 🙁

He made sense.

Anyway.

Phil.
Midrift flab.
It would seem that we are predisposed to suffering stubborn stomach fat in this region of the body.
Its linked into the Bio-Chemical access to fat stored in that area of the body.

In order for fat to be released from our stores, for fuel.
Certain chemicals need to be present in with the fat.
The ratio of these chemicals determines who easily accessible that fat is.

Its would seem that fat in the upper and lower body consumed more easily than that stored around your middle.

Life’s a bitch, eh ?.

I miss Edukator

He made nonsense.

T,FTFY
😉

extreeeeeeeeme diet time then. today i will eat a melon. a packet of ‘snowies’ to compliment the packet of ‘jazzies’ then nothing for dinner.

if i get hungry i’ll look at myself in the mirror and tell myself i’m ugly and worthless until the hunger goes away.

Shut up!

He was lean, he ate well, he exercised… a design for life.

Maybe he shouldn’t have argued that iDieting was bad for others but in terms of how his diet worked for him… he was bang on the money.

Phil – do you still eat before the gym in the morning?

Maybe he shouldn’t have argued that iDieting was bad for others but in terms of how his diet worked for him… he was bang on the money.

agreed

i never eat before the gym in the morning, just a cup of coffee with some milk (so i can drink it quick enough to get out the door on time) and a sugar, because… well i don’t know why, tastes nice innit.

Start drinking proper black filter coffee instead.

No milk, no sugar, just caffeine.

Then hit it hard.

As a wise philosopher* once said ‘nothing tastes as good as skinny feels’!

*It might’ve been a dizzy super model, I can’t remember.

extreeeeeeeeme diet time then. today i will eat a melon. a packet of ‘snowies’ to compliment the packet of ‘jazzies’ then nothing for dinner.

if i get hungry i’ll look at myself in the mirror and tell myself i’m ugly and worthless until the hunger goes away.

You do know that your body is unlikely to access any significant quantities of body fat, while you have all that sugar whizzing around in your viens.

Shut up!
Easy Tiger.

EDIT:
he ate well
He ate shyte and burned it off as an unusually active 50 something.
My point, as well you know.
Is eating habits

philly, IME diet (sugar) is main cause of midrift flab – i switched from skinny lattes to espresso and ditched all choc/biscuits from my diet. Got down to 17% body fat with no other diet changes and my abs were showing. Started eating choc/biscuits again, body fat has gone up a bit and abs no longer showing as clearly. 😥 Cut out the milk and sugar in your coffee for starters.

TRX and KBs work core the best IME – my core is now far stronger than it was before i started using them and more defined too.

Solo – he did not eat shyte. Not in any way, shape or form.

Plenty of people can stay lean without going Paleo. Without iDieting and without training loads.

They probably have never over-eaten and never been dishonest with themselves about what they do eat.

If you cook from scratch and don’t favour creamy sauces… 9 times out of 10 you’ll be the right side of the obesity statistics. You’ll probably live to a ripe old age and hopefully enjoyed life too.

Plenty of people can stay lean without going Paleo. Without iDieting and without training loads.

They probably have never over-eaten and never been dishonest with themselves about what they do eat.

If you cook from scratch and don’t favour creamy sauces… 9 times out of 10 you’ll be the right side of the obesity statistics. You’ll probably live to a ripe old age and hopefully enjoyed life too.

TSY.
Lots of incorrect assumptions there.
As I’ve mentioned before, from someone such as you, how could you possibly know anything about weight control through diet, when you are so hyper active ?.
😀

i think because of the relative success of my gymming and other dietry changes i had been fooling myself in thinking the milk and sugar were ok, but now past the general fat loss stage and onto the stubborn stuff its time to cut the sugar and milk.

no more hot sweet cups of tea post ride at jos house 🙁

i think because of the relative success of my gymming and other dietry changes i had been fooling myself in thinking the milk and sugar were ok, but now past the general fat loss stage and onto the stubborn stuff its time to cut the sugar and milk.

no more hot sweet cups of tea post ride at jos house

Perhaps not completely cut-out.
Just remove it from being a habitual and repeated choice.

DG.
Do you still get cravings for sugary post milk in your tea ?.

how could you possibly know anything about weight control through diet

He can know what works for him, and in reality this is the most fact anyone can know.

Lots of incorrect assumptions there.

How so? Which ones?

So all those people who’ve lived into their 90’s… they were Paleo? They knew about the iDiet?

I’m not knocking what you choose to eat or the benefits of the iDiet for some, but your standpoint does verge on ridiculous sometimes.

Phil.W

You obviously have a huge hard-on for me.
I don’t care why and pay no attention whatsoever to whatever you post.
😉

TSY.
Firstly, don’t confuse me with pushing Paleo / iDave.
I am, however, intrigued by the under lying science.
And the rest, I can’t be assed to pull you up on.
Especially as you consistently miss my point about eating habits established over a lifetime, which in later life, people then struggle to break when the weight goes up.

Do you still get cravings for sugary post milk in your tea

I don’t drink tea. 😕

Plenty of people can stay lean without going Paleo. Without iDieting and without training loads.

They probably have never over-eaten

Many people do not get fat at all, no matter what they eat.

i’ve only got 4 months til the weddingythingy 😯 time to get stuck in to the butterfield diet!

Especially as you consistently miss my point about eating habits established over a lifetime, which in later life, people then struggle to break when the weight goes up.

Eh? So the habits of someone that has lived into their 90’s?
Eating bread, meat and 2 veg meals, porridge, cake.

Would you tell that person to change their ‘habits’?

You obviously have a huge hard-on for me.
I don’t care why and pay no attention whatsoever to whatever you post.

solo, what are you talking about?

Yeti, someone who’s lived to 90 might’ve lived to 100 had they eaten differently, or had better quality of life in old age.

You just never know.

Many people do not get fat at all, no matter what they eat.

Eh? So the habits of someone that has lived into their 90’s?
Eating bread, meat and 2 veg meals, porridge, cake.

Would you tell that person to change their ‘habits’?

These two quotes go together.

What about all the 90-year-old’s school chums with the same diet who died in their fifies? Maybe the OAP was just one of the lucky ones? My wife’s gran smokes and is still alive and kicking at 83.

Equally, weight and health don’t go hand-in-hand. My sister’s father-in-law is thin as a rake and a very physically active fifty-something, but he has heart problems.

Until you get the health problems, you don’t know which type you are. So, it’s better to not smoke. It’s better to be physically active. It’s better to not be overweight.

Some people live a long time despite being fat, chain-smoking, alcoholic couch potatoes. Doesn’t mean you will.

I think it was Woody Allen that said…

“You can live to 100 if you give up all the things that make you want to live to 100”

You might get run over by a bus on the way home tonight? What’s your point? They eat a healthy balanced diet, just like Edukator.

Mol – this may be wrong of me, but reading between the lines in your posts about diet and the iDiet… do you think you fall into the category of being dishonest about what you eat?

mike – I’d imagine if you surveyed those who’ve lived long into old age there would be certain recurrent themes, or trends in the lifestyle choices they’d made.

The Paleo diet would not feature in these trends.

a) I would not discount it and
b) that proves nothing anyway.

mike – I’d imagine if you surveyed those who’ve lived long into old age there would be certain recurrent themes, or trends in the lifestyle choices they’d made.

Hence why I exercise, don’t smoke, only drink in moderation and eat proper food.

The Paleo diet would not feature in these trends.

Paleo wouldn’t, but perhaps type and quantity of carbs would? Weight (or BMI or body fat %) would almost certainly feature and shorter-term studies could show how diet would affect these?

I’m also interested in quality of life, as well as quantity. As an asthmatic, paleo/iDiet makes sense for me, as reducing wheat and dairy should benefit my asthma.

Plus, I get to eat bacon, egg and chorizo and drink red wine 🙂

most old people i know boast about how unhealthy they’d been by todays standards, eating bricks of lard for brekky, smoking 60 a day because the doctor said it was good for their throat when they were 12… that kinda thing.

i’ve never met or worked with an old person who said ‘i’m glad i never had white bread’

EDIT:

I’m also interested in quality of life, as well as quantity. As an asthmatic, paleo/iDiet makes sense for me, as reducing wheat and dairy should benefit my asthma.

that’s a good reason 🙂 i’m trying to manage my body fat and exercise more to slow down the onset of type 2 diabetes and the gradual crumbling of my spine. when i’m older i hope i can look back and say i’m glad i did it for those reasons… i know that i wont look back and say ‘i’m glad i had visible abs when i was 27’

we could argue anecdotal stories all day, we probably all know someone who:

a)smoked, did drugs and ate lard but lived to the age of 90
b)was super healthy but died running a marathon
c)developed weight realted problems in old age
d)had a fun life but developed dementia and forgot about it.

Molly, why doesn’t it?

(apart from the fact that we’re not discussing real data)

I’m starting to feel like Edukator. iDiet is great for fatties etc. Paleo will keep you skinny. Self-restraint is a wonderful thing.

Mike – Totally agree… especially on BMI/weight… I suppose the crux of the topic is how those living towards 100 have controlled theirs?

To those who are swimming then cycling then running. or doing all three in of the same things in one training routine. Please stop. You are training as a triathlete does. It is wrong on all levels.

*shudders

Rule #42 // A bike race ride shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
If it’s preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run, it is not called a bike race, it is called duathlon or a triathlon. Neither of which is a bike race. Also keep in mind that one should only swim in order to prevent drowning, and should only run if being chased. And even then, one should only run fast enough to prevent capture.