Training and diet talk…

Legs ok as Saturday was a casual ride not a hard ride

That is rest and recovery then. If the cold is above the neck… keep on going.

My body lets me know when it wants a rest… it doesn’t sound like your body is telling you it does.

That is essentially what I wanted to see/hear. I was just wanting your strong reassuring (imaginary(to me anyway)) voice to say it to me.

*swoon

Are we allowed to talk bike skills on this thread? Last night the race squad got some coaching, and we learned how to react if we got elbow/shoulder barged and rode with bars touching. Was lots of fun! 😀

Before the skills stuff, i did 1 hour of weights, just to keep the thread training related!

Yes, but you have to explain the ‘how’ bit in ‘how to react’…

My guess is lean into them.

I’ve just done a slow 10k run (48mins keeping HR low) and 900m in the pool in just over 20min.

Bring on the weights and a new compound exercise called the death crawl… it looks gimmicky but like it’ll be hard.

I certainly couldn’t do a 48min 10K and keep my heart rate low!
I tried some <70% WHR running of the weekend. Averaged 12:30 a mile 😯
Granted it’s off-road, but it was still 3 minutes a mile slower than normal for the route. Pretty joyless too. Every slight incline and the heart rate monitor demanded a shuffle or a walk.

I wasn’t keeping it that low Ian, probably more like 75%. Got a bit excited for the last 3k and stepped up the pace to about 4:30min/Km.

the death crawl

I was doing that at about 4am Sunday morning. I went and did my Boxing training last night. Cleared my head right out; but then woke up this morning feeling worse.

So you feel better after training and worse after recovery?

I think you know what to do…

Yes, but you have to explain the ‘how’ bit in ‘how to react’…

Yup, lean into them. Picking up a bottle from the ground defeated me though! 😡

but then woke up this morning feeling worse.

You shouldn’t exercise with a cold, you’ll feel worse after it/will make the cold last longer. 🙄

Rubbish dirty… above the neck you can train, below the neck, abstain.

Picking up a bottle from the ground defeated me though!

Crikey! Maybe my comapct frame would come in handy!

IME it makes the cold last longer and is silly.

My PT was training a client last night in KBs, she was doing a one handed KB swing and stepping sideways into a squat. Any idea what its called?

Edit, the closest i got was about 5cms away from reaching the bottle. Didn’t enjoy that as much as the contact drills though.

we learned how to react if we got elbow/shoulder barged

Now maybe I’m not an experienced roadie, but I reckon if someone elbowed me they’d get a good solid shove back. Or a smack in the face.

You could always spray them in the face with a bottle. Or if you are skilled you could reach over and pull their brake cable on the top tube.

Or a smack in the face.

Here comes the internet tough man 😉

Your road racing career would be pretty short live I reckon Molly.

What path is the KB swung along Dirty? I can’t quite envisage what your describing…

Lol Mol 😆 You’d take the bunch down if you shoved them back which isn’t the idea! Was pretty scary and cool in equal measures riding with bars touching and leaning on each other, going to practise that one a lot.

1:15

Take a lesson from this kid.

One thing I can’t stand is stupid argy bargy. Get on and ride your bloody bike ffs, stop trying to throw your weight around 🙁

Puts me right off road racing if people are going to tw*t about like that.

Maybe there’s an advantage to being 50% heavier than most of the rest of the pack after all.

Maybe there’s an advantage to being 50% heavier than most of the rest of the pack after all.

That you get to stay with the pack for 90% less time??

I’ll elbow your scrawny arse into the bushes no bother.

I love argy bargy though Mol…. I’d be in my element… teeth an’ elbows!!!

Actually, I think the only time you’d see me would be for a kamikaze t-bone take out on a corner, probably only the first corner.

One thing I can’t stand is stupid argy bargy.

Me too, put me off football for this reason.
No need for it.
Just
Get on and ride your bloody bike
imo.

Puts me right off road racing if people are going to tw*t about like that
I have a friend who use to ride in the national team scene.
Contact in the peleton is de rigueur, it would seem.
But subtly different from causing a crash.

Apparently, in them olden days, when gear levers were on down tubes.
It was practised by some to change your gear for you….

I think the swings/squats were done as a one arm swing, then taking a step out to the right/left to go into a sumo squat as the KB came down, and then as it came up again, moving legs into usual position for KB swing. But i didn’t want to watch to closely and i’m not getting any more PT sessions til the off season so i was going to read up on it, but need to know what its called before i can find it!

There’s a lot of people out there with poor bike handling skills in a bunch so it pays to know how to react if you get bumped into or similar – otherwise you’d be down. Suspect if i was in an argy bargy bunch i’d be in the bushes though as it was ok when it was a girl of similar height/weight to me, but with a bigger bloke who is stronger… I nearly went down on Saturdays chaingang when the bloke in front of me stopped without warning, i clipped his wheel big time, thankfully i managed to swing off to the side and unclip rather than coming off. Nearly set a new max hr though! 😯

I nearly went down on Saturdays chaingang when the bloke in front of me stopped without warning, i clipped his wheel big time, thankfully i managed to swing off to the side and unclip rather than coming off. Nearly set a new max hr though

Then hes a **** !.

no braking in the pack please.
If you need to slow, just reach out and lean on the chap in front.
No one wants to bring the whole pack down.

So you feel better after training and worse after recovery?

I think you know what to do…

I need to go shopping with my grandma tonight though.

What a nice boy I am

above the neck you can train, below the neck, abstain.

I have been told this by a ENT doctor.

Day 7
Ham, eggs and salami
Tub of salad leaves, chorizo, celery, etc with balsamic
Leftover chilli and sweet potato

One week in, my weight’s pretty much where it always is but I look leaner and feel good, but I didn’t have any weight to lose. The wife lost about 6 pounds. We’ve been eating pretty much the same.

I ended up making a load of these last night…

Energy bars made of lentils… gotta love that. The bit I tried was pretty damn tasty too.

are those lentils dry/raw? they look it.

They look wrong though

but I didn’t have any weight to lose

Which is why although I have seen your posts, a diary of what you’re iEating.
I failed to understand what your goal was ?, until.
I look leaner and feel good

They look wrong though

Not to the paranoid exercise addict and general allround exercise mental person.
They don’t.

The one’s lying around are… you cook them a bit before adding them to the mix though.

Lentils
Rolled oats
chopped nuts
dried fruit
almond flower
peanut butter
honey
chocolate chips
seeds (I forgot to add these to mine)
cocoa powder

Who’re you calling paranoid Solo 😆

Who’re you calling paranoid Solo

Sorry TSY, but you couldn’t stop if you wanted to.
I don’t want to, but I worry you are / going to, hurt yourself.

But never mind, carry on.

Lentils
Rolled oats
chopped nuts
dried fruit
almond flower
peanut butter
honey
chocolate chips
seeds (I forgot to add these to mine)
cocoa powder

mixed together and shaped in a manner which they will almost certainly look like upon there exit.

Sorry TSY, but you couldn’t stop if you wanted to.

hmmmm… I don’t think you know me that well.

Out of curiosity TSY how well will those energy bars fair in the back pocket of your jersey?

That’s an interesting point alex.

I made them initially for eating at work and as a snack, but… I reckon that wrapped in clingfilm, or inside a press-seal sarnie bag they’ll be fine. Not really sure what the consistancy will be like on this first batch.

hmmmm… I don’t think you know me that well.

Well, whos loss is that ?.
😉

Well, whos loss is that ?

Clearly yours Solo. TSY can make food what looks like poo and tastes like chocolate and honey. That is a skill that should only lead to accolades of the highest order.

I am aware that I have used the word what incorrectly in that sentence and ting.

Which is why although I have seen your posts, a diary of what you’re iEating.
I failed to understand what your goal was ?, until.
I look leaner and feel good

I can eat pretty much what I want and not get above 11 1/2 stone, despite pretty much doing no exercise apart from a 5 mile a day bike commute and being vaguely active. But, being iDiet ‘aware’ in food choices got me down to a smidge over 11 stone.

I do long rides with minimal training, so being lighter helps. It’s easier to lower weight than to increase power 🙂

I’m also asthmatic and allergic to various stuff, so cutting out/down dairy and wheat has always been something I’ve been thinking about doing and this gave me a structure to doing that. Too early yet to see whether this is having an effect though.

TSY can make food what looks like poo and tastes like chocolate and honey.
😆