Training and diet talk…

Got to laugh at these ‘obsessives’. 😆

Having once been an ‘obsessive’, ie running 6 days a week with the odd twice in a day, I’m glad I saw the light.

Along came a bike … 🙄

THM thanks, will look at Karvonen

Interesting, my comments on training when on the paleo diet seem to have been taken on board.

In what way? Missed that bit (seriously)

Mcboo – its very simple, I explained it on previous page.

Instead of simple % age of max HR

Take Max HR minus resting HR
Then take % ages
Then add back the resting HR

Really simple. You can put on a spreadsheet to adjust for changes (lowering 😉 ) of RHR

Running is so simple, it’s horrid but there’s so little faff.

My OS will not permit running

However, I do have….

😀

C’mon Edukator – show them all that you’re a good guy.

My guess is that you’ll say…

Cut back on swimming as I can’t make up that much time there… however I’m rubbish at it so I’m desperately trying to sort out technique.

Increase the running – this is now my top priority.

Rest some more.
Please 🙂

Solo – what is OS?

We’re not obsessive C-G.

Interesting, my comments on training when on the paleo diet seem to have been taken on board.

In what way? Missed that bit (seriously)

iDave.
I’m just trying to ignore him.
Like I couldn’t have come to my conclusion before he turned up.

I replied to your e-mail.
Did you get it or are you still having e-problems ?.

CG.
You mention the bike.
Have you managed to try the road bike ?.
Lovely weather lately for a gentle spin.
😉

Interesting, my comments on training when on the paleo diet seem to have been taken on board.

I think Edukator has called win on this. Everyone else should record it as a ‘loss’ and report back here next week for re-training.

Matt

Solo – what is OS?

Operating System.
I used a computer based, Jamie style, analogy for my objection to running.
Oh, but, Jamie is the running man.
Oh, my bads.

Thanks for trying, but running is probably out, except when I run about with nephew once in a while, kicking a ball about on the park.
I can still out sprint him, but I’ll not have the upper hand for too much longer.
In a year or two he’ll speed up.
But I’ll still be giving 100 percent.
😉

There were plenty of triathletes on TriTalk who followed the Paleo Diet (including IMers). There is a whole thread on it if my memory serves me correctly.

I think you’ll find you’re wrong there THM, edukator knows these things. You can’t live let alone compete without generous amounts of bread pasta and potatoes.

Can we talk about tri-training instead of diet, for a few posts at least? C’mon Edukator, learn me up good.

Operating System.
I used a computer based, Jamie style, analogy for my objection to running.
Oh, but, Jamie is the running man.
Oh, my bads.

I cant tell whether that is serious iDave or a joke, but I know that you and Edukator don’t see eye-to-eye judging from the other thread!!

But if anyone is interested this was one of them:

http://www.tritalk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=81488&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

TSY – you must be the first triathlete that doesn’t stress time in the bike as top priority!! You cant win a tri in the swim but you can certainly lose one!!

[damn, I am trying to wean myself off triathlons and TriTalk!!]

THM – it’s by far my strongest discipline currently. Plus, I’m not going to win… so therefore, can’t really lose. Just want to do my best!

You really should be doing more training if you ever want to win, TSY.

Ah, I see. It was my weakest (cycling) and still is and that was a drawback especially on HIM etc. Now I am a new convert to my bike and do much less running.

Jamie – actually that seems only an average schedule for most age groupers (sorry TSY) – no chance of winning off that (again sorry TSY)

[edit for the post below – OK iDave, its a nice swim and ride to a 10k running race !!!]

bike for show, run for dough…

bike for show, run for dough…

Nice National Bread Week reference!

I might buy a French Stick tonight, just like I celebrated national pie week.

THM – I’ve been saying that for ages about my training volume… it really isn’t a lot!

bike for show, run for dough…

I like my bike.
Its about 11 years old, I bought it in France while I was working there on the Mk 2 Focus.
has quite old spec stuff on it.
But its still around 9 Kg and I love to use it.
Ali frame, MTB pedals, 105 gear set.
❓

Does this explain the lactate thingy ?.

TSY – one reason why I never went beyond HIM. The required volume for a full IM is just too much to fit in with family and work (at least for me) and I had no interest in plodding round a full IM.

HIM is much more do-able with reasonable performance and great balance between speed and endurance for my age (ie 45-50). Just so stupidly expensive!!

THM – I know a couple of guys who do IM. One who’s reasonable at it and is just naturally gifted, the other not so but gets up at 4am for training rides and has a job that pretty much allows him to be in the gym allday… not for me ta.

Solo – why are you so anti-running? I’m sorry that I’m so useless – wussed out of riding the road bike but had op around 10 days ago. I dunno. 😕

Solo – why are you so anti-running? I’m sorry that I’m so useless – wussed out of riding the road bike but had op around 10 days ago. I dunno.

CG.
I’m not against anyone else running, but I don’t.
I use to enjoy a sprint, but the long stuff was difficult even as a young skinny streak of a teenager.
Also, I just found it to be soooo boring.
In my limited experience, the only time during adulthood I could run, was about 10 yrs ago after my apendectomy.
I was sub 11 stone, very thin and lean after a short stay in Hopsital.
Then I found I could run with little effort at all.
But still found it boring.

I only asked about the bike to give some constructive encouragement.
Just give it a gentle pootle on a quiet road, may be make it a reward journey with something nice at the end.
Be good to know that you’ve managed to get back to using your road bike.
Post Op recovery permitting.
How are you then ?.

Solo – running needn’t be boring, you just need to mix it up and treat each run as a session. So one day a week was an off-road hill session, another day was endurance, another was mix it up with sprinting between lamp posts, bit of track work etc etc.

Off road is the best especially at this time of year when there are bluebells to be admired, birdsong to hear, lambs gambolling and the British countryside is to be enjoyed. 8)

No bikey for around 2 months, quaffing pain killers and anti-inflammatories still, without much relief. Thanks for asking though. 🙂

Hmmm, I was running with a girl from my club at the weekend helping her do her last long before London Marathon this weekend (go Lizzie!!) we did 10 and a bit miles at 8’40 min/miles and were talking happily, HR…66%

THM is spot on!!

Sooooo…

I’ve been doing a bit of research into porridge…

Seems to score low on GI and II and high on satiety. I’ve been eating 120g or so a day probably at times when I would’ve snacked on bread or maybe chocolate.

Is there something better that I could eat, why?

What
Chocolate Eclairs

Why
Taste nicer.

I have porridge too each day, but mainly because there are never any Eclairs about.

You should buy more eclairs!

I reckon that Cadbury’s Eclairs mixed in with porridge might actually work, hmmm.

I don’t think I could move if I had 120g of porridge. LOL

Honey or golden syrup is the important question 🙂

80g for breakfast emsz and another 40 in the evening or blended in a smoothy.

Ummm, I’m out of golden syrup so I mix it up with…

Peanut Butter & banana
Honey
Dried Fruit and Nuts
Plain
Or on Friday I had it with custard and grated chocolate.

Microwave porridge with a creme egg or two put in for the last 20 seconds
food of champions (on iDay off of course) 🙂

Mini-Creme Eggs!!

I was going to add some galaxy caramel the other night…

I’ve been doing a bit of research into porridge…

Seems to score low on GI and II and high on satiety.

Made with water and a pinch of salt, or with full fat milk and golden syrup? 🙂

Day 1 of iDiet in the miketually household: I had bacon and fried eggs for breakfast and the Mrs had the same but with added mushrooms and tomatoes (and less bacon).

don’t forget veg too – spinach, asparagus, broccoli, all work with egg/pig combos

Just found another iDiet-friendly recipe on Stone Soup for a lentil-based tabbouleh[/url].

Right energy geeks, what do you think of Super-Starch?

http://www.generationucan.com/pdf/technical-breakthrough-sports-innovation.pdf

Personally I associate Super Starch with some Daz washing powder advert, but maybe it really is 100% awesome! ?

Well. I popped to the gym mid morning.

I hit the bike and the free weights.

First thing I’ve had to eat today was lunch.
Chicken breast, tuna and a flippin scotch egg.

Will I crash and burn this afternoon ?.