Jeremy Corbyn

It might be last years news Jambs, but it was still a fact…

care to fact check this for me Jamba? # Toryhypocrisy [/url]

You can’t blame the media for Corbyn’s demise, the media is part of the political landscape in which politicians have to operate. You’ll be blaming the voters next…

Time for Labour to take some responsibility starting with the current mess they’re in, blaming everyone else for your problems is typically left wing though.

blaming everyone else for your problems is typically left wing though.

You have heard of the daily mail haven’t you?
The right or alt right now move to invent problems to blame others for. It’s a universal trait.

To be fair – the Mail is much more blaming other people for their own problems.

To be fair –

Seems like it’s always other people who are the problem, we would be fine if it wasn’t for the EU, Immigrants, Foreign people, poor people, young people, judges etc. Nothing is the fault of the faithful

See also people accepting welfare, people cheating on their benefits and all that quietly missing out on things like tax evasion and nice middle class payouts – watch when interest rates drop and they complain about pensions and savings, don’t mention a property price stagnation or even worse a drop

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/08/jeremy-corbyn-vows-stay-labour-leader-no-matter-election-result/

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And why not? He’s got an overwhelming mandate from his members and supporters, no?

He would have to say that anyway – just like Cameron had to say he was staying if Brexit.
I don’t think he has a chance of staying, but the problem is finding another leader who would satisfy the people who voted Corbyn in. Too early for Clive Lewis imo – although I’d rather it was him than many.

@ulysee seems plausible, hospital parking charges are robbery but then they pay them in France too despite much higher taxes.

@aracer if you remember Labour where complaining the the mainstream press weren’t bothering to cover Corbyn at all. Frankly Corbyn is such a liability even the left leaning press can’t find a way to support him.

Corbyn really is stuck in the past, got in some good old banker bashing at the official campaign launch.

IMO the biggest danger to Labour is that he clearly intends to hang on post what looks like it will be a crushing defeat. He survived making Labour the #3 party in Scotland, he seems intent on making Labour the same in the rUK

Jamba, could you please run by this for accuracy for me?

Binners will be disappointed to miss the great man…..

Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) tweeted at 9:54 am on Tue, May 09, 2017:
Corbyn visit to Mcr won’t include Bury, I’m told. Local Labour figure says Corbyn “told not to come due to his **** quotes about Hamas”

Corbyn visit to Mcr won't include Bury, I'm told. Local Labour figure says Corbyn "told not to come due to his **** quotes about Hamas"

— Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) May 9, 2017

Watching some tory ***t on the Daily Politics trying to explain how Ed Miliband’s ‘Marxist’ energy price freeze is different to Theresa May’s energy price cap. They really have no shame or integrity whatsoever. Sadly no one watches the Daily Politics so no doubt the great british public will swallow it hook line and sinker.

IMHO

Absolute total madness

Little policy !
Little on Brexit !
“Day of reckoningv” !

From the BBC’s political editor

It was a passionate speech. There wasn’t much in the way of policy, not much on Brexit.

Instead, what we got was Jeremy Corbyn unleashed, unvarnished. The real Jeremy Corbyn and that is deliberate because his people believe he is a real vote winner. That people respond to his authenticity.

We heard language we don’t usually hear from politicians. He talked about a “reckoning” for bosses, bankers, media barons, and others. The sort of language that Labour politicians in the past have tended to shy away from for fear of angering voters.

Yeah, no where near as good as just repeating Strong and Stable every 2 minutes while managing to not really say anything else.

@ulysee 🙂 totally accurate humorous news piece, a joke is a joke. FYI have newsthump / daily mash on my fb feed

If people didn’t want a landslide Tory victory they 1) shoud not have elected Corbyn leader 2) PLP should have blocked the GE. However the vast majority of MPs are against Corbyn amd think a massive GE defeat will force him out.

Strong and Stable is succinct and highlights the Tories key advantage vs Labout’s key weakness : May vs Corbyn

Local Labour figure says Corbyn “told not to come due to his **** quotes about Hamas”

I thought Binners’ local branch had been infiltrated by Momentum ruffians and would therefore be most welcoming of the Great Leader?

Strong & Stable seems to be working for TM, JC’s message doesn’t seem to be resonating that well with the voters though.

To be honest TM hasn’t exactly set the bar high in the great politician stakes, she has been total devoid of policy, empathy or even unfashionable conviction. It should be a slam dunk for Labour but instead we’re harking back to the great revolution.

Be interesting to hear what JC is planning to do about tax cheats and big bosses in his day of reckoning, and why it’ll be any different to other politician who has said this and failed to get to grips with the issues.

Maybe even more important is will his purge actually make any difference economically to the country, will it actually generate significant revenue for re-investing into public services. Probably not, it’s all just smokescreen rhetoric with no credible plans behind it.

And why not? He’s got an overwhelming mandate from his members and supporters, no?

“I can’t understand why we lost the election – just look how many shares we got on Facebook, Twitter Sqwarkbox, anotherangryvoice and the canary!

Strong and Stable is succinct and highlights the Tories key advantage vs Labout’s key weakness : May vs Corbyn

It highlights nothing as it doesn’t mean anything. Corbyn can just as easily say he is Strong and Stable. In fact he can more easily say it because May has not shown any strength and is certainly not stable.
A quick switch from Remain to Leave, continually stating no general election etc,. Can you explain how that is Strong and Stable?

A quick switch from Remain to Leave

As opposed to a very slow switch from leave, to remain, to leave, to maybe another referendum, to leave, to partially leave, to leave but leave the door open to remain, to remain a little bit, to leave, and then to nobody is quite sure anymore?

As opposed to a very slow switch from leave, to remain, to leave, to maybe another referendum, to leave, to partially leave, to leave but leave the door open to remain, to remain a little bit, to leave, and then to nobody is quite sure anymore?

Sorry, I missed the bit where you have explained how it was Strong and Stable for May to switch.

Corbyn can just as easily say he is Strong and Stable.

I wish him luck with that, but I bet the nasty medja would stop his message getting through.

Local Labour figure says Corbyn “told not to come due to his **** quotes about Hamas”

I thought Binners’ local branch had been infiltrated by Momentum ruffians and would therefore be most welcoming of the Great Leader?

They tried! But were unsuccessful in unseating the centrist candidate, who only lost by 300 votes last time out.

My constituancy is Bury North and is as marginal as it gets. Bury south is a different kettle of gerbils altogether. Its got a huge Jewish population and has been nailed on labour win. Apparently they now fully expect to lose the seat, and have pretty much given up hope since Comrade Corbyns anti-semetic whitewash.

Unfortunately I’ve said all along that this will be the case even after he’s lead the labour party to its heaviest ever defeat[/url]

He’s enjoying his Momentum personality cult/echo chamber far too much to allow a little thing like the biggest Tory majority in electoral history get in the way of his hopeless self-indulgence

5 more years with no opposition party it is then. Cheers Jezza!

Sorry, I missed the bit where you have explained how it was Strong and Stable for May to switch.

You pretend that Theresa May is operating in a vacuum

If she had a different opponent, then it might even be impossible for her to make a claim to be strong and stable

Why not instead view it as

“I’m a ‘king sight more strong and stable than the pathetic old duffer you would be lumbered with otherwise”

Yes, tories having a slogan which is exactly the opposite of reality is quite common.
“For hardworking people”
“A Britain living within it’s means”
“Strong and stable”
“Things Can Only Get Better”

Even though historically the economy has been less stable under the Tories,
and Mays personal record at the home office is an even worse example of strength or stability

the lie will perpetuate and see May thru.

As easily dismissed as corbyn is I cant see that a different Labour Leader would be able to push back against that narrative- its so ingrained in the media, possibly in the left behind parts of the UK labour once counted on but now seem to be losing – but the middle classes who have done so well out of the last 30 years crave stability as we launch off the brexit cliff edge

You pretend that Theresa May is operating in a vacuum

If she had a different opponent, then it might even be impossible for her to make a claim to be strong and stable

Why not instead view it as

“I’m a ‘king sight more strong and stable than the pathetic old duffer you would be lumbered with otherwise”
Didn’t she once say something about not calling an early election or something?

You pretend that Theresa May is operating in a vacuum

If she had a different opponent, then it might even be impossible for her to make a claim to be strong and stable

Why not instead view it as

“I’m a ‘king sight more strong and stable than the pathetic old duffer you would be lumbered with otherwise”

Because that is not correct either. She has proven to be weak and unstable. Why not view it as

“I am weaker and more unstable than the opposition but I will keep saying I am strong and stable as I may even believe it myself one day. Plus, the press don’t seem to be picking me up on it and providing all the examples where I have been weak and unstable – which is nice”

Truth is, when anything other than following the script set for her, she just starts to look & sound like a shifty child catcher.

deadlydarcy – Member
Truth is, when anything other than following the script set for her, she just starts to look & sound like a shifty child catcher.

its true the maybot doesnt function well outside of defined parameters, its why she struggles with things like original ideas

Ive noticed that Farron 2 weeks ago, Clark this morning and now May at her press conference keep repeating the same lie…

That millibands price freeze, didnt allow for reduction in bills if wholesale prices fell, even though the labour manifesto clearly contradicts that lie

yet none of them were challenged on their lie by their (BBC) interviewers

I think its a cleverly planned distraction policy.

Makes the Tories look a bit centrish and gives the interviewers something harmless to grill them on.

It is indeed just centrist-sounding mood music. I suspect that like her proposal for workers on company boards, it will be dropped like a hot turd before it got anywhere near parliament

Yes, tories having a slogan which is exactly the opposite of reality is quite common.
“For hardworking people”
“A Britain living within it’s means”
“Strong and stable”
“Things Can Only Get Better”

the reality is more complex, tell me that Jimmy Eaton isn’t for hard working people http://www.rossendale.gov.uk/councillors/17/james_eaton

If an ex postie, charity fundraising pensioner isn’t natural fit in labour party you have to ask what its for

AlexSimon – Member
Yes, tories having a slogan which is exactly the opposite of reality is quite common.
“For hardworking people”
“A Britain living within it’s means”
“Strong and stable”
“Things Can Only Get Better“

Wasn’t that a Labour slogan (Tony Blair)?

Given the bias of the UK press, I honestly don’t think it would be a bad idea to ban media outlets from covering or commenting on party policies or manifestos during election periods. Instead, everyone is sent a copy of the manifestos for all parties and they can make their own minds up.

@MTB it was the “theme tune” memorably played after the ’97 landslide

@mikey you are Erdogan and I claim my 5,000,000 Turkish Lira 🙂

@kerley strongest leader by absolutely light years, May, Corbyn, Farron, Lucas ….

Oh I’m sorry: Did I say something that would upset the right-wing stranglehold on the UK press?

@kerley strongest leader by absolutely light years, May, Corbyn, Farron, Lucas ….

She seems to have you fooled. How is she strong, any examples of strength please because I haven’t seen any?

Working for a long time with great determination to get Al Hamza extradited,
Winning the leadership contest
Getting the A50 legislation passed and the exit notice triggered
Calling a general elecfion in which her opponents voted to trigger and which will lead to her having a significant majority

@mikey slightly tongue in cheek, lefties don’t buy papers it seems. If they did they would exist, press in France is dominated by the left. The Press have been very kind to Corbyn, he’s got off lightly as “the right” know he is their biggest asset