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  • dragon
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    He’s always wanted out, this is win in Corbyn’s world. His thinking is that when he gets in power labour can nationalise all the industries without EU issues. The students and the metroplitian liberals who jumped to Corbyns cause never looked very hard at his views, and hence, now feel let down, but its they who are the fools.

    Politics is a funny world, where those on the hard left and right can come together to get rid of the EU and then after fight over the spoils.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    There is no justification for Labour to block the UK’s departure from the European. The country voted to Leave. and Labour is respecting the vote. Nor are they playing any tactical games about blocking it later. It’s done, just a matter of process.

    @daz no it isn’t his job to oppose the Government just for the sake of it.

    dazh
    Full Member

    It is the job of the opposition to represent the views of people who disagree with government policy. Once again labour have forgotten that.

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    It is the job of the opposition to represent the views of people who disagree with government policy. Once again labour have forgotten that.

    Including UKIP voters then?

    Seems an odd definition to me.

    binners
    Full Member

    Corbyns job, as far as he’s concerned, and has always been concerned, is to represent the interests of his immediate coterie of hard left nutters. And at the moment that interest coincides with the same goals as the hard right.

    What’s depressing is that the naive idiots who just re-elected him expected anything different, before they condemned the Labour Party to its destruction and some typically clueless cloud-cuckooland idea that leaving the EU will usher in some kind of socialist revolution.

    It won’t. It’ll deliver the polar opposite. All labours triumphs over the 20th century will be shredded by a hard right Tory party that sees the opportunity of a lifetime to turn the clock back a hundred years

    What’s staggering is not just that labour has a leader so profoundly stupid, and blinded by his own nonsensical fantasy ideology, but there were so many sufficiently dense people to vote him in, and in doing so sign the death warrant of the party and all it ever achieved.

    Seriously… what does this moron think the likes of Iain Duncan Smith are going to do about workers rights when they’ve got a blank sheet of paper in front of him? And they’re actually actively supporting this lunacy! It defies belief! Talk about being totally detached from reality!

    ctk
    Full Member

    and the 48%

    This is it for me. Just come out and say we respect the referendum result, we respect the 52% who voted out AND the 48% who voted remain.

    I guess that would mean a Norway/ Swiss type outcome/fudge (but obvs much betterer!)

    dazh
    Full Member

    Including UKIP voters then?

    You think UKIP voters disagree with the current government?

    before they condemned the Labour Party to its destruction

    I don’t think we have to go over the causes of Corbyn being elected again. Do we? I’d suggest though that if that opinion is typical of centrist anti-corbynites in the party then labour will be out of government for a lot longer than Corbyn will be around.

    binners
    Full Member

    Well Owen Smith – remember him – the traitor/Tory lite/blairite scum – is presently defying the whip for the first time in his career (not the 400th) to take a stand and represent the 67% of labour voters (remember them? The ones deserting the current Cotbyn Labour Party in their millions) who voted remain.

    These bloody conviction positions eh?

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    yes

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    You think UKIP voters disagree with the current government?

    Yes, massively so.

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    This is just getting ridiculous now:

    I will vote for Brexit bill tho I fear the consequences will be catastrophic – Margaret Beckett

    ScottChegg
    Free Member

    If Corbyn was so attached to convictions in politics, he would allow MP’s a free vote.

    Not drag in the three line whip to keep them in line.

    Hypocrite.

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    Typical rather than ridiculous ?

    No backbone – avoid decisions

    Don’t take responsibility – blame others

    Isn’t it now obvious that the whole “conviction narrative’ was always a mirage designed to fool the unthinking into ignoring/accepting the cuckoos

    nickjb
    Free Member

    No backbone – avoid decisions

    Don’t take responsibility – blame othersThat sounds like the opposite of imposing a whip

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    “This is just getting ridiculous now:”

    Isn’t it. Utterly mental.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    That sounds like the opposite of imposing a whip

    Not really, it avoids having to think too much about it or put up a fight. Just shrug and blame the people for voting

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    I don’t think it’s a wilful avoidance of decision-making.
    It’s the result of no clear route mapped out before the referendum.
    There was no post-referendum planning. Nobody can even agree on the meaning of the ‘advisory’ part should be.
    It’s a complete mess. The fact that people (including Corbyn) didn’t even know what the timing should be post-referendum is telling enough.

    The problem is, I was always a remainer, so I’m always going to feel that brexit is stupid and that the campaign to leave was full of lies.
    But I must admit – as soon as the referendum result was in, I assumed parliament would follow suit and brexit first, negotiate after.

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    but alex, thats the rationale response – we are in a new world

    Corbyn is not cut out for the job, that has been obvious from day 1

    The bright side is that they have uncovered a possible replacement with Starmer.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    Alex quite right there was no planning for a Leave vote. Cameron would not even entertain the possibility and he should be rightly criticised for that. Corbyn at least stuck his oar in and said A50 should be triggered immediately althoigh that was another of his make it up on the fly “policies”

    dazh
    Full Member

    The bright side is that they have uncovered a possible replacement with Starmer.

    Yes of course. In a world of increasing populism, where policy and detail is secondary to prejudice and ignorance, the answer is to hand the leadership to a technocratic lawyer who comes across as an emotionless automaton? 🙄

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    Unfortunately there’s only one Corbyn/Momentum/Union/Guardian-approved leadership candidate, but they all agree that it’s too early for him yet.
    Clive Lewis

    dazh
    Full Member

    Clive Lewis wouldn’t be a bad idea. Not sure why it’s too early for him though. I’d also expect Heidi Alexander to be in the running too. I’m still absolutely convinced Corbyn will not fight the next election.

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    I’m still absolutely convinced Corbyn will not fight the next election.

    Well he certainly won’t fight it, but he will still be leader unless the Unions withdraw their support.

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    So what happens to the rebels?

    binners
    Full Member

    If they do it another 500 times they get to be leader 😀

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    The bright side is that they have uncovered a possible replacement with Starmer.

    Corbyn’s legacy …. Sir Keith and Baroness Chakrabati 🙂

    binners
    Full Member

    Et tu Dianne. 😆

    DrJ
    Full Member

    Sir Keith

    #jambastarmer ?

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    I hope poor Ms Abbot recovers quickly. She must have been very poorly to miss such a vote. Best wishes to her.

    cranberry
    Free Member

    I know he wants to be more Trump, but he has just stated that people “choose to be gay” or lesbian.

    https://t.co/KjgctveCog

    😯

    Still if any of them choose not to be gay then his mates at Press TV ( banned from the UK for their part in showing a confession obtained with torture of a journalist ) know the blokes who have the cranes who can hang people until they are straight again.

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-paid-iran-press-tv-tortured-journalist-2016-6?international=true&r=UK&IR=T

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    Phew, seems Dianne is better today. That’s good news.

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    “I hope poor Ms Abbot recovers quickly. She must have been very poorly to miss such a vote. Best wishes to her.”

    Her party and her own views diametrically at odds with her constituents. Abstaining would have been the right thing to do IMHO and given that wasn’t practical a migraine was the right thing to do.

    Still a nasty racist, but on this she’s done the right thing.

    binners
    Full Member

    #prayfordianne

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    She abstained? I thought she was ill. The news is even better.

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    pray? thats a bit religious for here….

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    teamhurtmore – Member
    pray? thats a bit religious for here….

    There’s a caring, cuddly alternative as well.

    #ShowDianeWeCare

    http://www.politico.eu/article/prayfordiane-labour-mps-mock-jeremy-corbyn-ally-abbott-brexit-vote/

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Judge a man by the company he keeps

    Binners in a thread with all the right wingers about Corbyn 😉

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    And yet here you are, Junky.

    😆

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    Candy and kids Capn!!!

    😉

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    only to call you all **** then walk out so it does not REALLY count 😉

    NO OFFENCE MEANT to be clear
    EDIT: due to new post NO OFFENCE MEANT to the CPT to be clear 😉

    Bit unfair THM [ and surprisingly unfunny]I have largely given up on this when was my last post before today?when was yours so the moth to the flame is not me is it

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