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Bloody hell Liverpool!
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JunkyardFree Member
Balotteli is not a lone striker, he was never bought to be the lone striker and he looked like he was trying to me in the game. He would have scored against another keeper as well IMHO.
You need to see what he and Sturridge can do together
Its harsh top blame him for being crap at a role he was not bought to do and we all know he cannot do
We may as well sell Ashley Young because he he is not a left back.
martinhutchFull MemberBallotelli though, god he HAS to be sold in a few weeks time.
This was the bizarre one. Rodgers must have occasionally glanced a few miles up the road and seen what a wasteful liability he’d turned into at City? Not to mention his pisspoor return to Italy.
God knows what he’s actually worth now.
weeksyFull MemberI’m not saying he’s at fault as a player, he can only give what he’s got…
But for the life of me he’s not the right player to resolve any issues the team currently have.
Sure, i accept if you give him the ball in the right place then it would end in the net.. but he’s not getting in the right place as well as them not giving it to him if he ever does.
lemonysamFree MemberRodgers must have occasionally glanced a few miles up the road and seen what a wasteful liability he’d turned into at City? Not to mention his pisspoor return to Italy.
I suspect every manager dreams of being the person who “tames” someone like Balotelli and helps him realise his potential.
weeksyFull MemberI suspect every manager dreams of being the person who “tames” someone like Balotelli and helps him realise his potential
Agreed, Brendan is famed in his own head for this, the ability to get the most out of average players… But it just seems as though he’s totally failed with that with Ballo.
disco_stuFree MemberIt does make me wonder what Fabio Borini has done to be excluded when Balotelli and Lambert haven’t been exactly firing on all cylinders – I know he turned down a move to Sunderland at the weekend but seems a bit of a daft move to play without a striker when you have one available.
Rockape63Free MemberI feel a bit sorry for Rodgers….last year he had Sterling and Sturridge playing fantastically, plus the enigma that is ‘The Cannibal’ scoring continually. This year not only have they lost two out of three, but Sterling has lost all ability (for England too.) He’s nothing like the player he was a year ago….perhaps the WC did his confidence and he’s never recovered?
Funny how so many fast flair players don’t last the pace so to speak, I can think of loads over the years who are on fire for a few years and then just disappear.
binnersFull MemberFunny how so many fast flair players don’t last the pace so to speak, I can think of loads over the years who are on fire for a few years and then just disappear.
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JamieFree Memberon fire for a few years and then just disappear….and then reappear
dragonFree MemberYou know a manger has lost it when he changes the keeper for a big match and not to someone promising and up and coming, but to a guy who has a dreadful track record. Brad Jones’ keeping at the weekend was so dodgy I half expect he was paid off to chuck the match.
Liverpool’s problem is they were setup to score more goals than the opposition, now they can’t do that they are in big, big trouble. Coupled with the fact that Gerrard is seriously awful this year.
Although personally I hate these modern formations of 4-3-3 or 5-3-3, they are just asking for problems, all the attacking players cutting inside getting in others way, while offering the defence little cover. Repeatedly on the radio it was mentioned that Moreno was caught upfield and Joe Allen was having to come across to cover, makes no sense to me. Defenders are there to defend first and attack second, if you are a rarity and can do both well e.g. Ashley Cole, then feel free to consider yourself world class.
pb2Full MemberSuarez was in my opinion the best forward I have seen play in the British top flight and I was lucky enough to be around to see Best, Law,Gaiscogne,Greaves, Shearer, Dalglish, Henry etc etc. He was and probably still is a flawed genius, at times nasty, warped and delusional but his speed of thought, reading of a game, movement on and off the ball and yes, his total win at all costs marked him out as being extraordinary and Liverpool were never ever going to be able to hold on to him.
Where Liverpool screwed up is what they did with the Suarez money.You really would have thought they would have learnt a hard lesson when they blew the Torres money but it appears not because the recent signings are simply not working as a unit.
David Moyes has his critics and as a life long Everton fan I was never thrilled by his overwhelming desire not lose a game, that negative mindset made him a square peg in round Old Trafford hole. That said I cannot think of a premiership manager who has come close to being so good at buying real talent for buttons (yes I know Utd overpaid for Fellani and Mata but my gut feel is that Woodward was responsible for that in the same way Utd overpaid for Shaw without Moyes) Arsene Wegner in his early years was good but that refusal to spend big has been hurting Arsenal badly over the past 5 years.
Off the top of my head Moyes bad buys were Bilyaletdinov, Richard Wright, Andy Van Meyde,Per Koldrup and James Beattie.The total for that lot was £26m which is not bad for ten years in charge, the upside is simply to long too list but recent gems have been Seamus Coleman £60k and John Stones £3m.
Having money means nothing unless you spend it wisely and none of the top English clubs comes remotely close to winning that accolade, the difference is though some of them can afford it and some of them win a trophy or two through spending big. All in all pretty depressing and indicative of a sport that is now a global industry and the play thing of the uber rich 😥
JamieFree MemberNigel Adkins is available if you want him
…and Pulis is always available. Does a good job in saving clubs from relegation.
JamieFree MemberWhere Liverpool screwed up is what they did with the Suarez money
See also, Tottenham Hotspurs/Gareth Bale.
JunkyardFree MemberThe risks of buying talent I guess but it is £30 + million cheaper than class.
Not sure Di maria nor Falcao can be considered a success and they would be what 60 and 45 [ if we buy him]
Garry_LagerFull MemberOff the top of my head Moyes bad buys were Bilyaletdinov, Richard Wright, Andy Van Meyde,Per Koldrup and James Beattie.The total for that lot was £26m which is not bad for ten years in charge, the upside is simply to long too list but recent gems have been Seamus Coleman £60k and John Stones £3m.
It’s Sylvain Distin’s 37th birthday today, speaking of canny Moyes buys. An imperious defender in his prime, and some athlete, still has his legs. Is making more mistakes these days, but asking an old time defender to change the way they play, like Martinez has done, is always going to be tough.
howsyourdad1Free MemberBournemouth await…..
They’re good, but they’re no MK Dons
We are in form, top of the Championship, at home and have nothing to lose. However if Liverpool lose it is a crushing blow.
I imagine BR is bricking it 😀
pb2Full Member+1 on Distin, top pro and a great buy at £4m. The whole Everton defense of Howard, Baines, Distin, Jagielka & Coleman cost £17.06m 😀 Thats less than Liverpool paid for Lovren and obviously less than Utd paid us for the big Fella.
Evertons net transfer spend since them Prem started is £58m, Liverpools is an astonishing £322m, Utd’s £408m, Chelsea £650m, City £595m, Arsenal £116.5m (see my earlier comment)and finally Spurs £165.5.
Along with my fellow blues our question to Bill Kenwright is simple, wheres all our money gone Bill since you got your “luvvy dovey” hands on our once great club ?
Its only over paying for Lukaku that pushed it over £40m, prior that we were circa £38m Newcastle net number is over £100m and West Hams is £54.5 but I cannot remember if they have been in the Prem every year since it started ?
ps I say astonishing re Liverpool because the net transfer number was roughly the same as Utd’s until Van Gaal and Woodward starting throwing money around and Utds income has always been vastly greater than Liverpools.
Garry_LagerFull MemberAlong with my fellow blues our question to Bill Kenwright is simple, wheres all our money gone Bill since you got your “luvvy dovey” hands on our once great club ?
Blue Bill seems a lot more incompetent than malicious, to me. He is an actor, though, so it could all be a devious facade.
Think I’ve put more money into Everton than Bill has, tbh.martinhutchFull MemberI love the idea that a club owner automatically has to be parted with vast quantities of his own dosh in order to satisfy the expectations of fans (which have been grossly skewed by clubs like City, Chelsea etc).
As far as I can see, Kenwright (and Moyes) hasn’t done a bad job. Everton have kept themselves firmly in the top division with relatively little outlay on players. No, they’re not going to win it, but they probably wouldn’t win if if they bought a couple of £30m players.
JunkyardFree MemberINdeed its hard to think of a better chair in terms of living wiht in your means, achievement for £ spent and not selling the club to anyone just for the money and still they are not happy and think he is shit.
Lovely fella, loves the club and he has done the right thing by the club.
Seems to both love the club and be competent. Two on most chairs of football clubs.jambalayaFree MemberWhat Jamie says. Both clubs have shown that one £80m player is worth more than 4 £20m ones
pb2Full MemberYour entitled to your views and I and all the other long standing blues are entitled to ours. There exists a large number of Everton fans who want to believe Billy boy but as always action speaks louder than words.
Bill would have anyone who listens believe he and his backers (Robert Earl et all)spend every waking hour trying to find an investor to fund a new stadium and a bigger better squad.
The facts are clear, since Bill took over Everton in 1999 the Premier League has gone through the roof from a value perspective and yet according to Bill no one has made a firm offer for Everton whilst nearly every premier club I can think of has had a change of ownership in the past 10 years. That fact leaves us all only two options to consider, 1) Bill and his mates are completely and utterly clueless to the point of being incompetent 2) Bill is not telling the truth and there have been one or more firm offers however Bill and mates have turned them down seeking a larger payoff.
Now before I’m burnt at the stake, I will make it clear I would rather have Bill and his mates than the Glaziers or the Fenway group,Vincent Tan and a whole cast of other premier league rouges but where Bill is concerned you need to read between his luvvy press lines.
Anyway enough of Everton, this is a Liverpool thread and I am handing it back to you long suffering Kopites and your legion of detractors.
CletusFull MemberSuarez was in my opinion the best forward I have seen play in the British top flight
That is some statement – unless you are a Norwich fan 😀
Not saying that he was a bad player but he did not always do it in big games. I think Aguero is better of current players and this would be more widely recognised if he could just stay fit.
Henry was the best of the modern era imo.
pb2Full MemberIt will be interesting to see what impact Suarez has at Barca, I guess its the Barca move that will determine how football remembers Suarez in the future.As for Henry he was outstanding but I am still happy with my view that Suarez was the best I’ve seen across a season, the trick is to maintain or improve on that performance.
NobbyFull MemberIt will be interesting to see what impact Suarez has at Barca
So far he’s looked ordinary but then he was
probablyLiverpool’s best player and stood out as such.JamieFree MemberIs that the sound of a corner being turned?
Bournemouth are doing their bit by missing several sitters, tho.
theotherjonvFree MemberHow many passes before the sterling goal! Sorry, on catch up hence about 30 mins behind.
howsyourdad1Free MemberThis is not the Bmth I know. Nervous and star struck methinks. We have missed two sitters. Seems like LFC have found their level.
Next goal is crucial
JamieFree MemberSterling has pulled a reverse Torres.
Cut his hair, and got better.
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