[Closed] Any Manchester United Supporters in?

I was waiting for your post.

It's always great to take a premier league scalp, it should be tempered with the now obvious truth that it's against a team in decline. And a manager in decline. 😉

binners, Junkyard, Harry The Spider, don simon and many others will be along to congratulate you. 🙂

Jeez though, that first goal. 😯

yossarian - Member

It's always great to take a premier league scalp, it should be tempered with the now obvious truth that it's against a team in decline. And a manager in decline.

*Quote saved on my laptop for re-posting (ramming down your throat) in 6 months. 😈

It's ok, Man U can now concentrate on the league. That they aren't going to win.

*Quote saved on my laptop for re-posting (ramming down your throat) in 6 months.

I can see that happening if fergie buys a ref in the transfer window....and about 11 new players.

Got to love the Man U haterz.
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Ambrose and espescially Murray must be right chuffed, scoring a late winner in such an important game must give you a real buzz.

We could do with someone who knows where the back of the net is. If we'd have had someone with their shooting boots on? We had enough chances.

Fair play though. Palace's first goal was absolutely stunning! What Gibson was trying repeatedly all night, with no success.

It's always great to take a premier league scalp, it should be tempered with the now obvious truth that it's against a team in decline. And a manager in decline.

Ah well. Being in terminal decline, I suppose we'll just have to make do with challenging for [b]another[/b] premiership and [b]another[/b] Champions League title.

I thought you were going somewhere else there darcy

binners, Junkyard, Harry The Spider, don simon and many others - can you hear me? Your boys took a hell of a beating!

I know it's hard to accept, but facing the truth now will ease the disappointment later. Obviously watching City win the league will be hard and sliding out of Europe before the final hurdle will be tough but these things are character building and ultimately good for the soul. 😉

Obviously watching City win the league will be hard and sliding out of Europe before the final hurdle will be tough

Remember this time last season? The premiership was Chelsea's apparently. Remind me who won it again? And as the Champions League go's - I think you'll find we reserve the right to lose to Barcelona in the final! 😉

radtothepower,

Who?

Me?

Never!

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Premier League, good luck to you, don't make it too easy for the Blue half. Can't see the Toon keeping it up, but good luck to Spurs too.

Champions League; Fair enough, until Palace a up there (in my life-time???) happy to support a UK club.

But, until the crash back to earth when out beasted players take on Derby tomorrow,

EEEEEEEEEEAGLES!

apf

It was a good match last night. You deserved the win. I'd actually like to see Palace win it. As that would mean beating the Scousers or our noisy neighbours 😀

As for the premiership - Someone on Five Live made a great comment about Fergie's attitude and approach, saying "Fergie doesn't think the Premiership begins 'properly' until there's ten games left to play!"

How true

binners, I love your positive attitude but, and I say this as Red, we're not very good this season though, are we?

We're not too clever, no. Mind you, that's never stopped us before. I remember watching us grind out a thoroughly undeserved win aginst West Brom, at home, at the start of last season and thinking "we haven't got a cat in hells chance"

Chelsea were walking it at that point. Same as City are now

And now go on to loose to Cardiff.
CPFC probably would have preferred Liverpool for the revenue , or Man City. Bowing out to the biggest teams is certainly no disgrace. This would leave the club to concentrate on reaching the play offs at least .
Glad Palace won , been a long time coming .

binners, I love your positive attitude but, and I say this as Red, we're not very good this season though, are we?

i don't think that you were that great last season. luckily for man utd every one else was worse. probably the worst prem season for a while in terms of strength in depth quality, although i have to admit that it made for an exciting season where there was little to choose between anyone in any given game.

different this season. there is one stand out team already.

A bit late to this one but I'd just like to make it clear that [b][u]I couldn't give a #### about Manchester United or Manchester City[/b][/u].

That is all.

Carry on.

I'll say this. This years title won't be won by the team with a massive goal difference advantage.

You can bang away 5 goals as much as you want but its only +1 goal thats needed to get those 3points.

Man City will be runners up.

I'm not a ManU fan but I do love hearing the Manc's next door laughing and shouting curses when the Man U games on telly!!! 😆

Just a thought for all those that say MU are sh@t, in the last two decades MU have won more premier league titles than the rest of the division put together, so if they really are sh@t how bad must the rest be?

Hang on, Scummers moaning already??

Have you forgotten this?

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I'm not sure if I'll ever witness such a comprehensive spanking of one top club by another, ever again. It's had the fantastic benefit of shutting up all the Whinger Arse fayns down here in That London, cos if they even so much as mention any title aspirations this season, you just say 'eight-two', and they shut up straight away. So, Thank You, Man U! 😆

TBH though I'm more concerned with why Liverpool can beat the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea, yet not the likes of Fulham, Norwich and Swansea. The Liverpool players seem to like woodwork more than I do....

I dont think anyone is questioning uniteds record in domestic competitions in the last two decades, although you could argue that they've underachieved in Europe. The SAF era is coming to a close however, honestly who from the united starting 11 would get into the city team today? United are weaker now that probably at any point in the last decade. I'd say that spurs have a stronger squad at the minute. I'm firmly of the belief that the special one will take over from bacon face at the end of this or next season and spend massively. All good really.

Isn't a 6-1 away victory more comprehensive than 8-2 at home? Just a thought like. It's a funny old season, underachievers and overachievers haven't evened out yet.

Does that mean the results are going to be or should be weighted, or is it still just 3 points for a win?

What is interesting is the variety of players knocking them away for ManCity. Its not just one 'Ronaldo' etc is it? Yes Balotelli but fears of a drought post-the whinging want-away-fella? Does anyone miss the downed-tools-fella at City?!!

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Isn't a 6-1 away victory more comprehensive than 8-2 at home?

No, and I'll explain why:

Man U and Arsenal are two of the biggest names in English, and indeed, Yerpean and even World football. Man City and Spuds are Johnny-come-latelys who have never bin anywhere near either of the other two in terms of achievement. Arsenal alone have won more trophies than City and Spuds put together.

Spuds may be doing well at the moment, and they have a decent manager (until he takes the England job...), but they jolly well have not won owt big in a long time now, only the League Cup in 2008. And City are just a billionaire's plaything, only doing well cos they've spent hundreds of millions of pounds on some of the best players around. The new Chelsea.

And don't forget, City got done 8-1 by Middlesborough just a few seasons ago....

So, Man U 8-2 against Arsenal is a far more significant result in terms of footballing history, mystique, folklore and that jumpers for goalposts is not it.

Hope that clears things up.

I'll say it again: This time last season the Premiership was Chelseas apparently. They were walking away with it, and no-one could touch them. Well that ended well, didn't it.

Its a bloody mugs game predicting who's going to win it at this stage. We'll see where we are after the pile up of Christmas fixtures and a shed-load of injuries. The Premiership doesn't even start til then. Fergie knows this more than anyone.

Its not like City are unbeatable anyway. Loom at their form in Yurp.

"Welcome to the end of your career"

Just how long has it been since hes played a competitive match again? Its only been 3months but times ticking isn't it. Doubt sets into clubs and the best he may end up being offered is a loan or pay-per-play if hes not careful!

Tevez is doing the right thing by himself if you ask me. Like City actually give a stuff about any of their players anyway; they're just a bunch of mercenaries to be bought and sold like cattle, and discarded when no longer useful. What they've done to players like SWP and several others is disgraceful. Buy them, then deny them the first team top-level footy they deserve according ot their abilities. So they languish in the reserves and have to shuffle along to make way for the next Big Star that comes along.

The sooner F1-style budget caps are introduced, plus a maximum squad size per season, the better. The way teams like Man City operate is bad for football.

Tevez knows City don't want to lose out financially by having to let him go, so he's trying to force their haynd. If they sack him, he's free to join another club and they won't get a penny. If he acts the way he is, his 'value' drops dramatically, and City will end up having to sell him at a loss, just to get rid of him. I don't blame him anyway; he's had to suffer a manager slagging him off publicly and making up stuff not one other player has backed up, and a club trying to wreck his career as a footballer.They shooduv let him leave last January, when he wanted to.

I'd like to see Carlos sign for another club, then end up scoring a hat-trick which sends City crashing out of the Champignons' League, preferably semi-final when all the Sky Blues have got their inflated little hopes up. That would be poetic justice...

Like City actually give a stuff about any of their players anyway

Totally agree and a players career is only as long as he keeps giving results but they are/were paying him close to a 1/4million a week. For that sort of money you'd expect an employee to turn not just turn up for work but also look abit lively.

If I sent a few texts to my boss late at night saying 'yeah is it alright if I go to Magaluf for holiday for two weeks now- you ok with that'?

What would happen?!!!

Tevez is doing the right thing by himself if you ask me. Like City actually give a stuff about any of their players anyway; they're just a bunch of mercenaries to be bought and sold like cattle, and discarded when no longer useful.

That's the premier league for you, the amounts of money involved these days means that there is no room for loyalty or sentiment any more. All clubs are guilty of it, not just city.

What would happen?!!!

"Yeah, off you go Mark. We might actually get something done." 🙂

Has he gone yet? 😀

There's a pretty realistic chance Utd could exit the CL this week. Everybody's saying "only need a draw". Neither outcome would surprise me of course. I'd be very surprised if City make it though.

Those texts between Tevez and Mancini

Im going boss, you hurt me and I don't feel the love.

If you go I'll ****ing kick you in the cock

Sorry boss my English isn't so good. Did you say have a great kick around and a lockin whilst you are out there?

binners - Member
Has he gone yet?

He's making sure to leave the price of a round behind the bar first.

Hora; Tevez wanted to leave last Winter. City said no. Several clubs were interested in him this Summer. City slapped a massive price tag on him. Effectively blocking him from leaving. Then, in spite of him continuing to put in great performances and tons of effort, repeatedly left him on the bench. This, a player who at just about any other club would be guaranteed 1st 11 week in week out. That's the kind of player Tevez is. Hungry to play.

So, City weren't the right club for him. But instead of accepting this and letting him go, they acted like ****s and prevented this. Would you be happy if your employers woon't let you leave, but woon't let you do your job propperly either? When other employers were willing to take you on?

All clubs are guilty of it, not just city.

City and Chelsea are by far and away the worst, though.

Liverpool, by contrast, allowed Joe Cole to go to Lille on loan. Where he's doing really well, playing in CL and everything. This has the effect of giving him playing time at top level, increasing his possible future options and also his transfer value if he were to move rather than return. This is far better for the individual player, and for football. City cooduv let Tevez go elsewhere on loan, but they blocked that too. Proper scum.

Elfinsafety - Member

Isn't a 6-1 away victory more comprehensive than 8-2 at home?

No, and I'll explain why:

Man U and Arsenal are two of the biggest names in English, and indeed, Yerpean and even World football. Man City and Spuds are Johnny-come-latelys who have never bin anywhere near either of the other two in terms of achievement. Arsenal alone have won more trophies than City and Spuds put together.

Spuds may be doing well at the moment, and they have a decent manager (until he takes the England job...), but they jolly well have not won owt big in a long time now, only the League Cup in 2008. And City are just a billionaire's plaything, only doing well cos they've spent hundreds of millions of pounds on some of the best players around. The new Chelsea.

And don't forget, City got done 8-1 by Middlesborough just a few seasons ago....

So, Man U 8-2 against Arsenal is a far more significant result in terms of footballing history, mystique, folklore and that jumpers for goalposts is not it.

Hope that clears things up.

hmmmm im not so sure genuine man united fans would agree with that....the importance of that result had fergie saying 'its the worst result in my time in football'...the only result that would have hurt more than the city thrashing would be liverpool winning 6-1 against them.....

beating arsenal 8-2 was incredible, incredibly bad for arsenal...but at the time arsenal were absolute horse shite nearing the bottom of the table, are were depleted on self explode and this was the tip of the iceberg for them......

arsenals demise at that time was clear to see to all...even talk of wenger getting sacked FFS....

man city beating a good solid top of the league (2nd) full team 6-1 away from home giving them their first defeat of the season was something else in a derby enviroment etc etc etc......

Thats well put Elf.

Thank you Hora.

the only result that would have hurt more than the city thrashing would be liverpool winning 6-1 against them.....

Which is why I'd say the 8-2 spanking of another historically top club is more significant. It symbolised Man U's dominance over Arsenal; yeah Arse have had a couple of good spells, but that's it, the rest has bin Man U, and Arse know it.

Man U can bounce back from a defeat like that, go on and win something, still be right up there. Arse have recovered extremely well, I must say, but after that caning they looked shattered, finished. I reckon had Arsene not pulled it back together the way he has, then he would almost certainly be looking for pastures new. And had that victory brought about the demise of one of English footy's best ever managers, then that wooduv gone down as one of the most significant games in recent English footy history.

Hi I am a friend of hora. Unfortunately he can no longer speak or move as he had some sort of seizure and as he fell to the floor he said 'strewth I agreed with Elf, god' help me'

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Poor Hora. He's so used to being wrong, that he just can't handle it when he agrees with someone who is right. His body's gone into shock. A good swift shoe-ing should help shake him out of it.

I hope he makes a full recovery, and remembers what a kind and generous bloke he is always insisting on buying his mates a pint....

always insisting on buying his mates a pint....

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Hora buying a round. The only time it has ever been witnessed. I think we all need time to inwardly digest what is taking place in that photo. We may never see its likes again

Time to get back in shape.

You've definitely let yourself go since your prime

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Look at the attention you used to get?

sorry OP missed the entire thread and your ability to gloat over us.
I will read it later so you can have another win

But Bin-Bins, din't he need a subsidy from you in order to actually get the whole round in?

He did indeed Fred. He hadn't bought enough money out for a round. Though you'll note, he is round 😀

Look at the attention you used to get?

Top left lass in the pic ❓

Hora's round?

Elfinsafety - Member
Tevez is doing the right thing by himself if you ask me. Like City actually give a stuff about any of their players anyway; they're just a bunch of mercenaries to be bought and sold like cattle, and discarded when no longer useful. What they've done to players like SWP and several others is disgraceful. Buy them, then deny them the first team top-level footy they deserve according ot their abilities.

Yeah, the same one who was not getting many games for Chelsea either, so decided to leave hoping for more first team action. City weren't the side they are now, when he joined.

Man City and Spuds are Johnny-come-latelys who have never bin anywhere near either of the other two in terms of achievement.

you are of course talking out of your butt. this is one of [b]the [/b]greatest teams ever.

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if you're going to start banging on about how many pots this team have won or that team haven't then there's little point dignifying such playground nonsense.

you are of course talking out of your butt.

No I'm not.

What I said was:

Man City and Spuds are Johnny-come-latelys who have never bin anywhere near either of the other two in terms of achievement.

'Johnny-come-latelies' in a contemporary sense in terms of [i]league position[/i]; both teams have bin mediocre for decades really, let's be honest. Spuds have at least won a couple of pots. But neither come anywhere close to Arse or Man U in terms of overall achievements. That's a fact. You can't point towards one season and pretend you're right, you just look silly. So, you're saying Spuds and City are equal to Arsenal and Man U, are you?

And you accuse me of 'playground nonsense'?

You really are rather rude, aren't you?

So, you're saying Spuds and City are equal to Arsenal and Man U, are you?

yup that's exactly what i'm saying. i'd add bolton, blackburn, liverpool, wolves, albion, villa and everton in there too. you can start reeling off how many pots this team have won or haven't but that's neither here nor there. all those clubs have produced great sides that dominated their eras and it's impossible to say how much more they might have achieved had they had the advantages that the modern game has given to those teams at the top.

man utd and arsenal are just having their time in the sun at a very fortuitous time doesn't make them any more special.

You really are rather rude, aren't you?

nope just see football history differently to you.

nope just see football history differently to you.

Well, you were there, I'm far too young to remeber such things. 😉

man utd and arsenal are just having their time in the sun at a very fortuitous time doesn't make them any more special.

Erm, the fact they've won ninety nine trophies just between the two of them does, actually. I'm sorry but it's true.

Liverpool, well, we know about their greatness. No other clubs come anywhere near them and Arsenal and Man U in terms of [i]overall achievement[/i] though, do they? No, they don't. Thank you.

Those three are way, way ahead of the rest in terms or greatness overall.

But for one who professes to know so much about football, you've made one glaring omission.

I'll leave you to work out who that is. 😉

But for one who professes to know so much about football

when did i ever claim that ?

if your only measure of 'greatness' is the pots that a team garners through history then you're missing the point

absolute rubbish team..................

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to call spurs or man city johnny come latelys was just daft.

Trailmonkey; you're taking my comments out of the context in which they were intended.

'Johnny-come-latelies' in a contemporary sense in terms of league position

IE, Arsenal and Man U have bin at the top or thereabouts for over 20 years at least now, whereas Spuds and City have bin mediocre at best really, over the same period of time. Woon't you agree?

So, not daft at all, but true.

Have you worked out the glaring omission from your list of 'great clubs' yet?

Arsenal and Man U have bin at the top or thereabouts for over 20 years at least now

so what about blackburn, wolves, villa, albion, everton all in the top flight 120 years later ? some of them still win the odd cup. to me that's achievement. compared to those clubs, arsenal and man utd are johnny come latelys. murdoch's money and the ecl has given so much of an advantage to those who were at the top at the time that it's almost impossible to compare man utd and arsenal with pre prem teams.

Have you worked out the glaring omission from your list of 'great clubs' yet?

i dunno, blackpool, burnley, forest ? there are so many

arsenal and man utd are johnny come latelys

Oh rly?

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Ok then.

what's that, the 30's and 50's ? that's 50 - 70 years after the first great dynasties.

anyway we digress. i think we managed to establish that spurs and man city are far from johnny come latelys.

now chelsea, if you'd have chosen them, you might have had half a case.

A Weds evening update:

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Europa league for mancs i believe!

Mickey Mouse competition anyway.

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Don't care if it ends up a draw, most of Utd look well below par. Even if we scrabbled through, on this performance it would only be delaying the inevitable!

Mickey Mouse competition anyway.

Definitely, being in the Champions League is so much better than the Europa jobbie

Basel!! lol

The streets of Manchester will be quiet tonight.

S****, s****, s****.

ah well, at least that saves us from being dicked by Barca in the final. Again

I hope Sheikh Mansour kept the receipt.

does this mean that we go down to 3 qualifying places in the ecl now ?

Good for the prestige of the Europa League...

Cry me a ****ing river Tyldesly you pr**k 😆

Unfortunately for proper utd fans that was fully deserved.

'The last days of Alex Ferguson'

I've only just seen this thread and haven't read it all but....

[b]elf[/b] - if you're seriously suggesting that our win over Arsenal was more significant than the dicking by city, you know f all about football. I was at (and stayed to the end of) both games. Even now when I think of the derby I feel physically sick. That will not change until we've done the same to them. And I doubt that will be any time soon. You, on the other hand, couldn't point at liverpool on a map and wouldn't be able to find your way to anfield without a tour guide.

'The last days of Alex Ferguson'

ah well, at least that saves us from being dicked by Barca in the final. Again

I'm loving being in Mank this evening. 😀 Miserable faces wherever you look. Which is about normal of course. Just more normal tonight.