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  • deadlydarcy
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    I can’t see a legal outcome from what he did.

    If he’d missed Lambie, then that would be a legal outcome.

    I’ve thought Ire throw themselves illegally at people for years

    Of course they do, yeah. 😀

    dantsw13
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    Late, high, avoidable. Probably not intentional, but as I’m always saying to my kids, you have to “mean not to do it”.

    deadlydarcy
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    Late, high, avoidable. Probably not intentional

    Aye, agreed. I think like most of these things, we’ve all seen worse go unpunished and better get harsher treatment. I’m not whinging about the red…clumsy attempt at block leaves opposition player out cold…so a red was not surprising in the least. Hope he’s got nice biscuits for the panel…if he gets cited.

    Anyone know what the sanction for the red would be in this case i.e. on a Summer tour? Will he be watching the rest from the sidelines?

    dantsw13
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    DD, but he didn’t miss. If you miss with a straight arm there’s no offence either, but if you connect you can expect a card.

    I’m sure he’s a stupid oaf, rather than a dirty cheap-shotter, but if you launch yourself at someone’s head after the ball has gone you are in trouble. It’s all about player safety – and he took a bloke out illegally and off the ball.

    * sorry – posted whilst you were writing your last!!

    dantsw13
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    At one point I thought Henshaw was going too!! It was a silly tackle just after the red card. I didn’t like Best arguing with the ref either.

    deadlydarcy
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    Best was probably man of the match.

    teamhurtmore
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    With you on the red DD but were are out of date 😉 as dan says, player safety is (correctly) the key these days

    But on that basis Henshaw should have gone too!!

    teamhurtmore
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    DanW
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    Red did seem harsh at the time but not toooo surprising either. Can’t believe the Ireland result and I wonder if they can too 🙂

    George is broke…we’re doooooooomed

    Don’t worry, we have a 5 foot nothing pup who hasn’t even had a Pro 12 game yet and Patchell flying in. As a kind of “all rounder” back Patchell has to be preferable to Anscombe (who may himself be injured along with Loopy Liam). The Kiwi is our own Burgess minus the bit where Burgess was actually good at a form of rugby. Any idea why Paul James and Lloyd Williams flew home? Injuries? Lloyd has been one of our more successful back up wingers of late so it would be a shame not to use him in this winger crisis 🙂

    anagallis_arvensis
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    James was injured when he left, Lloyd took a knock in training.

    jambalaya
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    Straight red no doubt. Turned his back knee and -rse first. If you are trying to block the kick its hands high facing the ball. He knew the wasnt going to make it, he wasn’t even trying imho

    @wrecker bound to be on youtube by now, some highlights here

    deadlydarcy
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    Stander to appear before disciplinary hearing tomorrow in Cape Town.

    jambalaya
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    Could be quite a ban @dd although I suppose as its the summer he’ll be back in time for the 6N

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Dont think he’ll get much of a ban due to the fact he is 1. Not French 2. Not Gavin Henson and 3. He has a great biscuit collection.

    dantsw13
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    Personally I think a standard 2 match ban is quite sufficient, but I bet he gets 6 weeks

    jambalaya
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    Congratulations Ireland btw. I bet the new RSA coach is geteting a real roasting in the press, losing first game at home to 14 men

    namastebuzz
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    Despite being someone who spent much of his rugby career trying to do just what Stander did – I have to agree it was a red card.

    The red wasn’t given because of the result. The high, late and dangerous challenge was still a red even if Lambie had bounced straight up again.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    It reminds me of the Hogg one v wales a couple of years ago. I think Stander will miss the next test but could make the 3rd..mind you I was a flanker, I think he deserves a beer

    deadlydarcy
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    He must have arse-cheeks of steel.

    namastebuzz
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    Among all the deserved plaudits for an incredible Irish win – I don’t think I’ve heard any mention that the Boks are playing with the deck stacked against them.

    I don’t know what the racial makeup of the side was but I do know that under “transformation” it’s supposed have a 50% black representation by 2019 (tough when you have a 15 man side). This inevitably means that you may not be able to pick some of your best players.

    Although not in force yet, every squad and team selection is under the microscope as to its racial makeup and selections are made under such pressure.

    It’s fine if your 15 best players are black – great, you pick the best side.

    Not so fine if the best 15 are all white.

    Equally not good if you’ve reached the quota but then a first choice black player gets injured and the best replacement is white. Do you pick him or go down the depth chart ’til you find a black replacement?

    You can see why the job of SA Coach is probably the toughest in world rugby.

    jambalaya
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    ^^^ very true

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Team v the Chiefs:

    Matthew Morgan (Bristol Rugby), Eli Walker (Ospreys), Tyler Morgan (Newport Gwent Dragons), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Tom James (Cardiff Blues), Rhys Priestland (Bath Rugby) Gareth Davies (Scarlets); Rob Evans (Scarlets), Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Luke Charteris (Racing 92), Josh Turnbull (Cardiff Blues), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), James King (Ospreys).

    Replacements: Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues), Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets), Bradley Davies (Wasps), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester), Aled Davies (Scarlets), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Rhys Patchell.

    Matthew **** Morgan?! Bet Moriarty is hoping no backrow gets broke.

    namastebuzz
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    Not wishing to re-open the Ford/Farrell debate but it seems – from reading around a bit – that Burrell was pulled off so Ford could run things from 10 rather than (just) because he was rubbish.

    So if EJ sticks with the Ford/Farrell combo is it coz he still sees Ford as the best 10 or he sees Farrell as the best 12 or he thinks Farrell can’t be left out as he’s the best kicker? (Like Neil Jenkins on the ’97 Lions Tour who was nobody’s idea of the best fullback)

    I guess if Slade got in at 12 we’d see who EJ wanted at 10? Ultimately though, Farrell’s kicking makes him almost un-droppable whether he’s the best FH or not.

    duckman
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    Farrell was superb at 12,I think he could be the link you lot have been missing since Greenwood. Manu outside him and that would be a fantastic pairing. Good of Jones to stick with Yarde to give the rest of us a chance mind!

    duckman
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    And Brown…He runs like he has forgotten to take of the resistance bands…

    jambalaya
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    I would compare Farrell to Mike Catt, decent enough club 10 horrible at international level. Made the switch to centre and propsered. If we had a kicking fullback and/or Ford gets his confidemce back imo Farrell would not be in the side.

    I see the Aussies have turned the bad loser dial upto 11, leopards and spots

    deadlydarcy
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    CJ’s adjourned hearing from yesterday now pushed back to 2pm local time. #FreeCJ doing the hashtag rounds on Twitter. 🙂

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Not seen the england gameso what did Burrel do wrong?

    duckman
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    Jumping out the line, left a dog leg and an “open shoulder” to run at.

    jambalaya
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    @aa whole team was misfiring, we posed no threat, had no plan and Australia where scoring at will. We where very lucky not to be 24 or 27 nil down. Second try Farrell got burned, Aussie TV (which I was watching) made a point of showing his error. Burrell was taken off so Ford could play 10. This is of course my learned personal view 😉

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Well its sure going to scar a decent player!

    jambalaya
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    ?

    DanW
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    I guess a_a means Burrell can feel miffed at being replaced to accommodate the 10 who isn’t that great at the 10 aspects of the game. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of love for Burrell within the English commentators so I wonder if they know something we dont

    Kryton57
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    whole team was misfiring, we posed no threat, had no plan and Australia where scoring at will.

    Not entirely true though is it? They were slow to start Aus were extremely fast and attacked from the outside having obviously identified a weakness in our game. However we won with some conviction and are now 3rd in the World rankings.

    namastebuzz
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    Burrell can feel miffed at being replaced to accommodate the 10 who isn’t that great at the 10 aspects of the game.

    The real problem (if it’s a problem) is that Farrell is a world class placekicker so you can’t leave him out of potentially tight games.

    So where do you put him? He’s too slow for the back 3 (although Alex Goode is mysteriously still in the squad) and JJ is nailed on at 13 so 12 is the only option.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Burrel was left out of the world cup for Burgess too. I’d be off to France if I was him.

    DanW
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    Indeed a_a, if Cipriani thought he was hard done by then he should have a chat with Burrell to lift his spirits 😀

    On a different subject, did you see the interviews with Anscombe out in NZ? Literally looked like he couldn’t give a sh1t about playing for Wales… [sarcasm] such a difference to the attitude he shows on the pitch [/sarcasm]. I honestly believe that he is a mercurial reader of the game and of defensive positioning as he is strikes the perfect balance of always being just far enough away from the attacking opposition to not have to do anything but be just close enough to say he made a brave effort to cover

    deadlydarcy
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    1 week ban for CJ. Misses 2nd test. Back for 3rd. That’s grand.

    wrecker
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    The issue was that the defence wasn’t keeping its shape, so they put the person who best understands Gustards defensive system into the position where he could have the most effect. We were still too narrow and it looked as if Aus could score at will out wide. In that respect, I actually think we’d have been better off with Goode playing and I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts the next game(!)

    The people who actually won the game for england were the pack. Haskell, Itoge, Robshaw, Hartley and Mako were machines.

    DanW
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    The people who actually won the game for england were the pack.

    Can’t agree more. Immense.

    I hadn’t seen until today, but Pocock is out for the rest of the series with a fractured eye socket. I wonder what the odds are 3-0 series win??? 😉

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