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"1,400 children were subjected to "appalling" sexual exploitation in Rotherham"
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Posted 9 years agoYes if one were detached from reality one could want to discuss that
JHJ earlier
Posted 9 years agoYou’re just sore because of where I clutched em from…
Posted 9 years agoWell well… Yesterday the Catholic church in Scotland apologized to survivors of abuse:
Cardinal Keith O Brien… mentioned him 5 months ago on page 13
Hmm, where have I heard that name before?
Jimmy Savile and the Cardinal
Britain’s most senior Catholic cleric wasn’t he?
Based on a true story, this trailer seems to suggest the Catholic Church is the same the world over:
Still find it a bit odd that the Keeper of Holyroodhouse is the nephew of the head of the child abuse inquiry (who is taking charge of the branch of the inquiry looking into the role of prominent figures and the intelligence services):
A scene from Holyroodhouse:
Posted 9 years agoYou couldn’t make it up…
The original head of the Child Abuse Inquiry, Baroness Butler-Sloss hid claims of bishop’s sex abuse (quite aside from her Brother’s involvement with many of those now facing allegations, which led her to step down)
The Church of England Bishop in question, Peter Ball admitted to sexually abusing young men
There are a few interesting (and worrying) aspects to this case:
On Tuesday (yesterday), the Crown Prosecution Service allowed two charges of indecently assaulting two boys in their early teens to lie on file. The deal, hammered out in secret with CPS lawyers, means Ball will not face trial on perhaps the most serious alleged offences, which involved boys aged 13 and 15.
It can now be revealed how prosecutors and the police – with the knowledge of the then archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey – allowed Ball to escape criminal charges when allegations against him first arose 22 years ago.
One of the two complainants whose case will not be taken to trial, Phil Johnson, expressed anger at the deal. “Throughout the two decades since the original disclosures, none of the allegations against Peter Ball have been examined in court. None of the evidence has been tested or fully examined. At every turn there have been deals and cover-ups.
“The truth has been suppressed and Ball?s offending behaviour and involvement with other abusers … has been minimised.”
When claims against Ball were made in 1993, conversations were held between police, prosecutors and the church before it was decided to caution the bishop rather than charge him.
Ball resigned in 1993 and moved to Manor Lodge in the Somerset village of Aller. The wisteria-clad property is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, the private estate headed by Prince Charles.
At the time, Ball said: “[Charles] has been wonderfully kind and allowed me to have a duchy house.
Posted 8 years agoFurther to concerns raised by Stoatsbrother, in a thread I started recently, I promised to update this thread:
Lot of truth in what you have said – but Tom Watson etc… you seem to have been rather quiet on that topic of late
Tell you what, I’ll update the Rotherham thread soon…
In the meantime, bear in mind that there have been multiple allegations of child abuse against Leon Brittan, which the police continue to investigate.
That the media chose to focus on the rape case against him (which was pursued in an abnormal manner, by a Police Officer who happens to be a close friend of one of the main journalists fuelling the fire), whilst disregarding the continuing investigation into child abuse is very worrying.
Furthermore, that the Panorama program delved into the troubled past’s of (alleged) survivors of abuse, yet took Harvey Proctor on his word, with no disclosure of his past speaks volumes.
I’ll provide links to prove my claims when I update the Rotherham thread.
Tom Watson came under a lot of flack recently, for his role in attempting to expose the links between organized paedophile networks, such as the Paedophile Information Exchange and those in the corridors of power.
By contrast, there’s been minimal coverage of Charles Napier and Richard Alston, two key players in the organized network of the Paedophile Information Exchange Charged as a result of the intelligence Tom 1st mentioned in PMQs in 2012
The Leon Brittan case led to a special meeting of the Home Affairs Select Committee on 21st October regarding investigations into Lord Brittan, home secretary at the time many of the allegations were 1st raised (and many police investigations were shut down).
In the event, the HASC meeting focused solely on one case, involving the alleged rape of a 19 year old girl by Leon Brittan. Keith Vaz steered away from further inquiry into ongoing investigations of child abuse by Brittan, involving multiple accusers and victims.
This recent pressure surrounding the Leon Brittan case began as a result of the BBC Panorama programme focusing on police investigations into VIP child abuse.
Of course, several areas of the BBC still have much explaining to do, from their initial failure to expose Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall (all of whom mingled with Royalty, earning Honours) to the appointment of Max Clifford as a BBC Children in Need Ambassador [/url]
How much of this will be exposed in the Review by Dame Janet Smith remains to be seen, as it remains on hold.
also worth noting the terms of reference were changed
Back to Panorama; though some of the points raised by the programme do bear further investigation, there appeared to be a clear bias, as any misdemeanours in the past of abuse survivors or whistleblowers were exposed for all to see, yet the past conduct of the alleged abusers failed to be questioned.
A clear case of this was Harvey Proctor… known to have lied on multiple occasions in the past, before being charged for spanking under-age boys, his statements went unchallenged.
Furthermore, he is known to have been involved in a relationship with a Pimp, Terry Allen, who would supply boys for Harvey’s tastes. Allen is credited with saying that Harvey Proctor ‘liked rough trade, the rougher the better.
Terry Allen has also been identified as Terry Dwyer[/url];
allegedly one of the key players involved in setting up Elm Guest House as a brothel[/url], with wider links to an international trafficking network[/url]
Why didn’t the Panorama programme highlight Proctor’s past, or investigate these links?
On top of that, we have a number of accounts (being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission) of police investigations into child abuse being shut down from above… who would have the sway to shut down such investigations, as in the case of Cyril Smith?
Leon Brittan and Cyril Smith are alleged to have been close associates, an account by Don Hale suggesting when he raised the issue of a dossier compiled by Barbara Castle with Leon Brittan, before being confronted by Cyril Smith and raided by Special Branch (who report to the Home Office, as do the police and MI5)
“A surveillance operation that allegedly unmasked Leon Brittan’s links to child sex abuse was shut down by Metropolitan Police chiefs.
According to an ex-officer, the former Home Secretary was photographed during a 1986 investigation into rent-boy orgies in buildings in North London.
But the day before swoops on alleged suspects were due to be carried out, officers on the investigation, called Operation Orchid, were told it had been disbanded.”On top of this, both Brittan and Smith are said to have been associates of Keith Harding, a leading member of the Paedophile Information Exchange, who was also linked to Jimmy Savile.
Keith Harding had a shop in Islington, an area which has been linked to extensive abuse within council run homes, with children trafficked to homes on Jersey, such as Haut De La Garenne, where Edward Heath and once again Jimmy Savile are said to have procured and abused children, some of whom went missing, never to be seen again.
Islington raises a number of issues, not least is Keith Vaz’s past as solicitor on both Richmond and Islington Councils[/url], around the time children were being procured from council run care homes to be abused. Whether this affects his perspective on matters when questioning remains to be seen… He has still avoided answering questions on his past conduct regarding Lord Janner.
Tom Watson may’ve also been facing significant pressure from within Labour Party HQ, as in addition to Keith Vaz, several prominent members of the Labour Party hierarchy were also in positions which deserve further scrutiny, from Margaret Hodge and Jack Straw to Jeremy Corbyn himself, who has been Islington’s MP since 1983.
To close for now, will the Home Affairs Select Committee be probing the reasons the Home Office supervised the redrafting of Fiona Woolf’s letters regarding her relationship with Leon Brittan, especially as official files relating to child abuse mentioning Leon Brittan were found shortly after he died?
Posted 8 years agojambalaya – Member
…… trying IMO to score politcal points.
And yet again jambalaya trashes the irony meter
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