[Closed] Female riders - would you enter an event that categorised you as a 'whore'?

😯

That's nasty.

So much rongness.

Guessing this is guys making money out of womens events and using scumbag marketing to do it.

Wow. i'm not the most politically correct person, but even for me, thats a massive balls up! I hope no one enters just off the back of that.

Wow. No, just no.

hmmm.

They will be dirty whores by the end of the race.

😯

What the........!!

[quote=tonyja ]Guessing this is guys making money out of womens events and using scumbag marketing to do it.

I'm guessing you didn't bother checking
https://airmaiden.com/pages/about-us

It makes me feel uncomfortable, but I guess we're all guys commenting so far, and maybe in an all female environment they're happy using such terms ironically.

More worryingly, such an organisation expects to be a role model for future generations.
https://airmaiden.com/pages/mini-maidens

tonyja - Member
Guessing this is guys making money out of womens events and using scumbag marketing to do it.

Not unless the organisers have recently changed

EDIT: looks like a thread for the easily offended. "Enduro Whore" is hardly calling someone a slut 🙄

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[i] I guess we're all guys commenting so far[/i]

you sure?

Looks like it's managed and setup by women, surely they should be able to decide if they find it offensive or not?

First reaction is 😯

But it seems to have been organised by a woman (who, though I've never heard of, seems to have some considerable biking pedigree and certainly more balls than me), and I wonder if it's one of those "taking back ownership" things, like black people calling themselves the N-word so it's no longer offensive (apparently).

[i]Looks like it's managed and setup by women, surely they should be able to decide if they find it offensive or not? [/i]

hence me posting it as a question.

I just wondered if they'd get more entries with a less, errm, challenging category structure.

From what I remember these are women events run by women.

I mean...

It's not quite calling women a "whore" is it -

It's "Enduro whore" as the whole phrase. A whore for enduro, if you will.

Not a whore for dicks.

That said, it's pretty immature at all levels. But maybe that's what the world needs?

Full disclosure: I am a man.

I'm baffled

Why did ebikes not get an offensive category name?

Personally I'm less than impressed with naming categories like that and i do find it a bit off, might be fine with your mates but imo not for anything more than that, taking back or otherwise. I'm not however the target market.

Maybe it works better in Scottish?

Maybe it works better in Scottish?

Nope, still divisive and disappointing according to an office full of Scots and English, 50:50 men and women...

Looks like it's managed and setup by women, surely they should be able to decide if they find it offensive or not?

Don't be so silly, what it needs is 10 pages of other people being offended on their behalf 😆

Being alongside an extensive [url= https://airmaiden.com/pages/mini-maidens ]mission statement about inspiring girls from the age of eight[/url], it just makes me wonder how the family conversations go:

"The racing's about to start, mummy, what category are you in?"
"I'm in the whores category, honey."
"What's a wh—"
"GOSH IS THAT THE TIME I MUST GO AND SIGN IN."

And has Eddie signed off on the branding? 😉

It's "Enduro whore" as the whole phrase. A whore for enduro, if you will.

Not a whore for dicks.

Yes, but you also have the sexualised virgins and cougars...

E-bike? Lazy bitch.

Well - if nothing else its driven 20 overweight middle-aged men to pore over the event website, and provided valuable publicity and sponsorship opportunities to Lynne Aitchison (Armstrong). [Who may also wish to employ a proof reader]

[i]overweight middle-aged men[/i]

Pick 2.

It's run and organised by very cool women I've had the pleasure of biking with, for very cool women.

But I applaud the middle aged male faux internet outrage. 2/10

Frontbum is the preferred nomenclature I believe.

matt_outandabout - Member
Nope, still divisive and disappointing according to an office full of Scots and English, 50:50 men and women...

24 mins from question to office poll - ffs.

Yes, but you also have the sexualised virgins and cougars...

This is the most offended thread I've seen in ages 😆

24 mins from question to office poll - ffs.

There are only 6 of us. And four ride bikes.

And nearly one page without male egos being dented enough to express outrage over a female only event? Come on stw, standards are falling!

So we're all agreed. Women aren't allowed a sense of humor. 😆

Top marks for triggering the fat middle aged hand wringers.

odd marketing but I'm not offended, as I would also class myself as an enduro whore.

But I applaud the middle aged male faux internet outrage.

Is it outrage, or is it people trying to understand others' views on when it is and isn't ok to refer to women as whores? I think there's a general acknowledgement here (from the very title of the thread onwards) that, as men, most of us aren't entitled to set the agenda on this. But there are more nuances to the use of arguably derogatory and/or sexualised terms than simply "it's always fine if a woman does it and always wrong if a man does it".

But clearly, it's the social media norm to denounce any discussion as "outrage", so crack on, it saves trying to understand stuff.

Bez - Member
Is it outrage

outrage/frothing/hand-wringing you can call it whatever offends you least

or is it people trying to understand others' views on when it is and isn't ok to refer to women as whores?

Would you be terribly upset if you were referred to as a bike-whore?

I was trying to think of male equivalents for the categories when I did the OP - terms that might be seen as insults if used about men but could also be argued as 'appropriating an insult and making it a strength' and I couldn't really. I think this is what interests me - clearly it worked as an event but does the categories attract or dissuade women from entering it. Or does it matter not one bit?

I deliberately tried to phrase it as a question without getting all WE MST STOP THIS NOW and I think that's how most posters have taken it.

outrage/frothing/hand-wringing you can call it whatever offends you least

How about we call it "curious discussion" rather than using a pejorative term to just dismiss it all as something that shouldn't be discussed? I know it's very comfortable to live in a binary world where anything that anyone else says is either totally legitimate or totally contemptible, but that's not this world and constructive discussion is how things get progressed.

Would you be terribly upset if you were referred to as a bike-whore?

Of course not.

Would I take my daughter to an event where becoming a whore was considered something to aspire to? That's a different, but far more relevant, question.

As is, would a male event organiser be justified in labelling an event category "whores" and if not, is the key difference simply that the organiser is male? What about if there's a team of male and female organisers?

clearly it worked as an event but does the categories attract or dissuade women from entering it. Or does it matter not one bit?

Have a look at mumsnet if you don't know any. It might be an eye-opener.

Looks like it's managed and setup by women, surely they should be able to decide if they find it offensive or not?

As there is no head of women's opinion I don't think a few people settings up a race (nor anyone else I guess )can decide if it is offencif to "them lot".

5thElefant - are you a man or a woman?

If it's the former then why are you trying to tell me how women are?

If it's the latter then you're a sample of one and I was trying to get a wider response than just one person saying 'you don't know what women are like'.

As there is no head of women's opinion I don't think a few people settings up a race (nor anyone else I guess )can decide if it is offencif to "them lot".