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I have a Max Bill and a Squale, so I think they're both great watches.
Max Bill has an acrylic crystal with an anti reflective coating - looks great but it's really domed so very easy to scuff!
Thanks johnners, helpful.
This looks nice. Maybe not £999 nice though:
As everyone knows, I like G's and have an MT-G (B1000), but not a fan of that rainbow one
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This is the offending Uncle Seiko bracelet - note how the first 3 links going from the end link taper to smaller than the width the next link starts at. I think it looks pretty poor, but it feels even worse with a very notable sharp step if you run your finger along the edge.

That's not great at all
To be honest I bought an Uncle Seiko rubber strap for my Turtle but it's really thin and the buckle is cheap. Was disappointed
Nee CasiOak released and I am very, very tempted.

One out, one hopefully in once the samurai is sold.
If it’s not the done thing to highlight a watch sale on STW, then can someone remove this post.
My blue seiko samurai up for sale here, just not worn it and unlikely to for quite a while. Real shame to have it languishing in a drawer for ages.
https://singletrackworld.com/classifieds/advert/seiko-blue-mens-prospex-samurai-automatic-divers-watch-srpb49k1/
This looks nice. Maybe not £999 nice though:
😖 That is truly grotesque! It encapsulates everything I hate about most G-Shock watches, made even worse with a case finish from the 1970’s. I’d actually be embarrassed to be seen wearing something like that.
Sorry, but it really is a horrid looking thing, and should have been put down at birth!
😖 That is truly grotesque! It encapsulates everything I hate about most G-Shock watches, made even worse with a case finish from the 1970’s. I’d actually be embarrassed to be seen wearing something like that.
Sorry, but it really is a horrid looking thing, and should have been put down at birth!
In fairness I don't think it's actually intended to be worn. Casio twigged quite a while ago that the G-Shock brand has it's fans including some stupid collectors and so all the gaudy limited runs at exorbitant prices are intended for them.
To be unboxed and gushed over in a YT video then stuck in a display case forevermore. Ain't capitalism great.
Oh dear johnners, they bracelet is not so good. I read the one I'm looking at is decent though. Although..... I've not got the watch I am thinking of fitting it to yet 😂
What do people think of the new Pelagos FXD? I think Tudor have been doing some great things recently
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It'll sell because of the MN link and little view it as a new Snowflake. It is not much smaller than the original pelagos, not a great deal cheaper, 40% the water resistance alth it's still a serious diver, doesn't come with a fabulous bracelet and clasp and the fixed lugs limit strap choices. However it'll sell.
I'm sticking happily with my original pelagos
That’s not great at all
Oh dear johnners, they bracelet is not so good
Thank God for that, I was starting to think it was just me! I went back to the Uncle Seiko website and if you know what you're looking for you can clearly see that's what they're like, so I suppose I can't claim they were misrepresented.
I also remembered where I'd seen the effusive review of the bracelet on YouTube - it's on the Relative Time channel. There are some good macro shots and all the time he's raving about it I can see the very same problem with his review sample. Maybe I'm being a bit picky but it's hard to see how someone used to handling watches could have missed it or thought it was OK.
After chopping and changing my mind a few times I've opted to try a couple of straps from AliExpress. A few you tube videos suggest that theres not too much difference if any than from some of the retailers mentioned. I'll just need to wait a bit longer. It'll at least let me see what style I prefer.
I was also intrigued by some of the watch offerings too and was all set to go for a Pagani explorer. When it came to laying out the cash though and when the tax was added it took it a bit out my comfort zone for something I'd not held or seen. So after a bit more consideration I've plumped for a cheaper chrono fleiger type from Escapement time. Reviews are pretty good and the brand seems trustworthy. Will see when it arrives.
I’m selling my Seiko
I like it, but I've 3 green Seikos already. And no money.
Red and green is seldom seen except upon a ...
Red and green is seldom seen except upon a …
Para and a Marine?
Cox’s Pippin
......a herc door.
Maroon and Green🙄
Red and green is seldom seen except upon a …
Frog in a blender?
... in Aberdeen?
My 18 month old Black Bay 41 has packed up. Won’t wind and the rotor sounds like it’s spinning free in the case.
any experience of Tudor warranties? It’s not been banged about at all and is worn in rotation so doesn’t get a hard life.
I imagine it’ll be while before I get it back…..
Where are you based Kato? If you're London then pop along to Rolex st James service centre. Tudor are good with their warranty support.
Had anybody tried a formex adjustable deployant? They look great, I'm wondering about durability.
Kent, Goldsmiths at Bluewater are taking it in tomorrow. I think Tudor service is dealt with at the Rolex service centre at Kings Hill which isn't far from my house
Those Formex deplayants have good reviews. Carbon composite aren't they? Jody JOMW has a lot of good things to say about them but I've never actually seen one!
Some sort of fibre reinforced plastic yes
I've been invited to a luncheon in Paris with JLC. I'm not that big a spender but I'll certainly be caressing many a Reverso in an inappropriate manner!
That’s some invite!
.....just to cover the other end of the scale, did anyone buy anything in the AliExpress 11.11 sale?
I wondered about this for about £25

or this for about £75

but resisted both as really I have no need for them.
I think we covered the homage thing 90-odd pages, but I'm not hugely keen so wouldn't have looked at them. I'm not averse to a cheap watch, (says the owner of multiple Vostok's!) I did quite fancy a Sea-Gull chrono, but was surprised they were quite expensive - or I didn't look hard enough.
That Pelagos FXD up there ^^^ looks very similar to my original late eighties TAGheur Formula One. Quite pretty. I always thought the later ones lost the simplicity of the slim originals. Mine came with a rubber strap for £79.95, seemed outrageous at the time! Luckily I had a mate in the trade who got me a trade deal on a stainless bracelet, it looks mint even now - stainless body, bracelet and black bezel and face. Despite being supposedly tough, the second hand shook off on a dirt bike trip across the outback. One of these days I'll get it put back on!
I used to have an orange TAGheur Formula One with an orange strap - bought for just over 100AUD which seemed ridiculously expensive at the time. I got a bracelet for it when I got back to the UK. At some point it stopped working and I just binned it. I still regret that.
So the BB41 has gone off under warranty and I was quoted 12 weeks for return......
Tried on the Pelagos whilst I was there and a BB GMT. Think I preferred the GMT which has now given me something to think about
I think that's what put me off in the end, they aren't the real thing. I got a Starking last year, looks slightly Tissot or Seiko but different enough
The steel dive range were all the rage for a while in the summer on tz-uk. Then I noticed lots of them in sales corner. I think they are probably a key good beater or beach wear but lots of purchasers tired and flipped them quickly. Tz-uk is not entirely representative of the watch wearing public though.
I like my steeldive sd1970/ turtle/ Willard a lot. Long name though😉
I got a sterile one as the logo doesn't do it for me. Have to say it's amazingly put together and people love the look of it and ask what it is and where I got it. I did the whole milled clasp upgrade that JOMW recommended, but it's entirely unnecessary really, it just removed the last remaining logo and made it properly sterile.
I've become obsessed with Orient Defenders though, have a Mark 1 that's possibly my favourite watch in my wee collection, and a green Mark2 on the way and I am looking for the black one too.
Of the other Homages they seem to become superfluous quickly like Neil said above. The exception seems to be Escapement Time ones, which are lovely and my auto flieger is going nowhere!
I used to have an orange TAGheur Formula One with an orange strap – bought for just over 100AUD which seemed ridiculously expensive at the time. I got a bracelet for it when I got back to the UK. At some point it stopped working and I just binned it. I still regret that.
Oh dear, that was a bit of a mistake. ☹️
My Pantor fills the Willard/Turtle niche for me, I've ended up wearing that quite a bit and it gets quite a few comments.
I've got a thing for the Mk1 Defender as well, the version with the textured grey/brown dial. I'm always checking ebay etc but they never seem to come up from anyone I'd consider buying from. The Mk2 is technically the better watch I suppose but it's def the Mk1 I'd prefer.
On a seperate note - the S&B GMT has turned out to be a great buy, the domed crystal has something "bubble-like" about it which is oddly addictive to look at, the only downside is that it's not the colour I wanted so there's an unscratched itch there which, with their upcoming Black Friday sale, isn't likely to remain unscratched for long.
I'm not a turtle fan, the case shape just turns me off. However, isn't the steeldive Willard obviously wrong in it's date window placement?
My MK1 defender is the grey/brown one, it's lovely in real life. Keep looking! I had an alert on eBay and got it for a steal a few years back. It's a keeper for me. The colour and dial layout of the MK1 for me is far superior to the MK2 but the green has really caught my eye! My first green dialled watch. It's arriving today. Will try and post a photo comparison if you are interested?
I wasn't aware of the date placement thing actually, I thought it was the same. Interesting. I'll look into that, but a quick Google seems to show them being similar.
That'd be cool, be interesting to get some first impressions of mk2 v mk1 as well.
Basically, if you can knock up a full compare and contrast review with high quality images that'd be great!
😉 If I can actually get a photo uploaded it would be progress for me on here...🤪
I will try though. It's just arrived and already I am loving it. Quite different to the MK1: bigger shinier and maybe better put together? Not sure yet. It's definitely great though. Came with a zulunato, nice canvas strap and steel original. Amazing!. I'll write something up later to explain my thoughts. 🤔
@sas78 I had a Seiko and for the current Willard appear on the thread, it had the date window at 4.30. maybe the original Willard had it at 3, dunno.
However, isn’t the steeldive Willard obviously wrong in it’s date window placement?
Getting confused with winder placement? Dunno, tbh. Both of my Heimdallr watches have the date window at 3 o’clock, but others like the Seiko SP045RK have the date window at 4.30, winder at 4.00. TBH, there are so many mods and ‘homages’ like my two Heimdallr’s, it’s difficult to remember what’s what!
Even my Heimdallr Steel Tuna has been customised, with a limited edition Marine Master face, and MM300 hands. With a fully lumed ceramic bezel insert, it’s become my everyday watch, I almost never take it off any more.

Found this piece on sale and couldn't resist flipping a couple of my cheaper watches to create a budget for it and therefore slightly upscaling my collection:
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A lovely Khaki King with the champagne dial. It comes with a brown strap but I much prefer the black which I had already so swapped it over, feels like a real quality watch
Ah bit of Google and yes it seems the normal Willard date position is 3. The one I saw pop up was the sla049j1, and it's down at 4.30.
👆I like the Hamilton. Where did you get it from, and how much? (if you don't mind saying obvs.)
That Hamilton is nice, like the day & date wheel positioning.
@tthew I got it last week from Francis & Gaye for £342 - they are having a Hamilton sale currently if you have a look. Its gone up to £372 now, but I did notice that Jura/CW Sellors still have them at £343 today.
That pic was one of several I took to try to get the detail, I can't describe how much of a quality that looks in real life - more than the pic shows TBH and the H40/ETA clone is quite compact in the display caseback. Note the brown strap is much lighter IRL than the internet pics.
Another one from the bargain bin, I wanted a cheap quartz field watch, wasn't too worried about brand or amazing finish, the default suggestion pretty much everywhere was a Timex Expedition of some sort... But No!:

Stainless case, drilled lugs, Seiko movement, 100m and a fully lumed dial... £20
Yep it's a 'Lorus'. And I really quite like it!
Love that Lorus! Very cool watch that. Where did you get that?
Argos
Swiss Watch Company ARK on it's way.
Nice one. Great wee spot that. Well done. Tempted....
That Lorus is lovely! Exactly what a field watch should be, nice and simple. Is the whole face lumed? Not many watches with that feature, my TAG Heuer NightDiver was the first, I believe, but the lume back in the 80’s didn’t last as long as the modern versions.
At that price, I’m bloody tempted!
Is the whole face lumed?
Oh yes.
After a few hours of artificial light and ten minutes sat under my bedside light it was good and bright, and it was still legible by ~6:00 this morning.
It should work well after a bit of sunlight.
This damn thread.
Couldn't resist that Lorus so ordered one at 11:30. £24.95 delivered TODAY!
Good old Argos.
Found a bright orange 18mm NATO in a drawer, reckon it pulls it off OK, but I'm going to end up spending double it's value on straps aren't I...

Yip. That orange works for me. Haha. I talked myself out of one. But that price is amazing.
Does anybody know where I could get a royal blue sail cloth strap with white stitching?
Something like this, but blue not black
I think it would look incredible on my pelagos....if I could find one.
I've got a Barton sailcloth strap, I don't know if its a common thing, but the tang holes frayed really quickly, from first use. It doesn't look too bad on a beater watch, but wouldn't be good on something smart.
I would have though with the invention of the does it all mobile smart phone, watches would be a thing of the past. It's interesting to see many still wear them.
I have a watch but rarely wear it, its an Omega something or other 18ct, but having come from trades where you weren't able to wear a watch, so i suppose that broke the habit.
Sounds like the Barton strap didn't have the holes sealed very well, they should be heat sealed just like a NATO if it's cordura or nylon. If it is canvas it should be stitched around each hole.
Yeah, I tried to melt/seal the frayed bits myself, but it didn't really work. Might be something to do with the fabric like weave rather than the seat belt weave, dunno, I'm no expert.
Anyway, can't recommend the Barton sailcloth straps, (they don't have the colour combo you're after anyway) unlike their rubber and leather options which are brilliant.
It’s interesting to see many still wear them.
I reckon 90% of the people I know wear a watch.
Must not buy Lorus
Must not buy Lorus
Must not buy Lorus
The Lorus has been on my wrist all weekend and come to work with me today and has prompted me to reappraise the watches I currently have in rotation, and those that aren't really getting worn.
That 20-quid 'POS' is currently a better option than several others I already own, in terms of both cost, function and looks.
So I'm thinking I might just retire a few others, I've got too many cheap, crappy watches at present and I just need to rationalise.
I don't want to be one of those blokes with a drawer full of dead, broken, unworn useless cheap watches so a bit of a reduction in numbers is in order I feel.
Dare I say it more Quartz, less mechanical so they're mostly ready to go on demand and don't need as much winding/setting.
I'm thinking I will limit myself to a 10 slot watch box, and anything that fails to make the cut just get flogged and I operate a one in, one out policy from then on.
In direct contradiction of this thread's title I'm headed towards an N- type situation.
it should be stitched around each hole
OOOOF. Brought back memories of a friend's catastrophic prolapse whilst doing
heavy low-rep squats. Imagine filling your pants with your colon...
I have a circa-2007 £30 Lorus quartz chrono that keeps better time than all my other watches except for a multiband 6 G-Shock, which is no surprise.
That's up against quartz/auto/manual from Longines, Tissot, Seiko and Lator!
FFS Derek.
Anyone got one of the latest gen Seamaster Pro's? I have the previous one in 'that' blue but thinking of trading as they're quite common.
Any thoughts/observations (on the watch)?
Out:
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In:
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All Seamaster's are common to be fair.
I like the white ceramic one, but not enough to get rid of my 20 year old one. I know there has been complaints about the AR coating scratching off on the latest gen as it's coated inside and outside
Never really got coating the outside of sapphire
My ex-classmate in the far east is selling his bling Omega Speedmaster 2011 (like this) for £1.7K if anyone is interested. Certificate etc to proof. He used to be the owner of a tour company but since the pandemic he has been unemployed other than running grilled food stall to get by. Money is needed to fund his son's final year education. Anyway, I don't know if it is a genuine Omega unless a watch expert can verify.
Not my cup of tea as I only like Japanese cheapo watch nowadays. My current watch is Casio G-Shock 5600 and I just wish the digital display is larger so I can see properly ...
I know there has been complaints about the AR coating scratching off on the latest gen as it’s coated inside and outside
My Tag Heuer is like that, you can definitely see scratches in the coating, which rather negates the point of anti-reflective! I'd like to find out a safe way to remove it.
I have that watch on order boblo
Pilot Watches. There isn't any one style that characterizes a pilot watch. With regards to the ground breaking nature of the flying business, the sort has developed a lot as new innovation and new requirements have arisen. The soonest men watches worn by pilots were repurposed field watches. They must be precise, obviously, and they must be decipherable under low-light conditions.
Field watches, with their hand-wound movements and dark dials with enormous white numerals, fulfilled both of these requirements. After some time, flying corps all throughout the planet started to foster watches with explicit flying capacities.
CR: https://www.tblsilicone.com/article/detail/the-difference-between-fda-and-lfgb-certified-silicone-products.html
The white dial on that is a beauty in the flesh



