Watches N+1…

as i said above, i asked in bond street’s watches of switzerland, they said, ‘We will take your details, but tbh…you won’t get one.’

Off to try Harrod’s tomorrow night, if it doesn’t snow.

oh my…IWC have managed to make something that probably appeals to 12 year olds…even the name seems to be aimed at that market!

For when your life isn’t beige enough

@neilnevill Watchfinder have seven Hulk models in stock. One of which is less than a year old. Worth a look.

Following neilnevill’s suggestion on page 6 or so, I’ve just bought a Steinhart Ocean One 39. Very nice it is too.

That IWC is tragic.

How can they design and produce such an aberration from such a thoroughbred stable?

The mind truly does boggle. As for the name. Pfft.

Harris, ta but I’m only interested to flip and make some cash (flame away).

Good call watty.

@neilnevill, the Kermit models are going up in price every month. I bought my mine four years ago, now more than doubled in price. Could be a good investment while you’re waiting for a Hulk.

Harris, ta but I’m only interested to flip and make some cash (flame away).

You won’t get the guarantee card for 12 months so you may as well buy second hand and wait abit. Or just not bother – not flaming but this is why they’re so expensive because they’re being bought to sell rather than be worn.

Really hankering after a hulk now 🙁 Must be all the talk on here ! Is there a special reason other than looking very pretty the hulk is more in demand ?

Trying to understand quite why these watches are so popular!
https://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/63058944442040p?$478$

That is indeed a sought after hulk. However it’s this one everyone wants

Well that was a fun chat with the rep in the Rolex bit of Harrods. We both wore omega po so hit or of, my mate was wearing c his Tissot Visio date and we chatted about that, Omega and Rolex. I was ‘ politely’ steered but not told no, twice, when asking about Hulk waiting lists. Non. Green means Chinese lucky, gold bad for Islam, add together and…. No. Did get on the list for a straight sub though, and a Harrods black bay. Yay.

Checked iwc….. Thankfully no top gun movave! No omega on Harrods now either…. Not for a couple of years….ooops. really like the tresor, white dial…. Not the anniversary claret.

Hic. I’ll be more legible tomorrow….. Beer night.

Ok, sober now.

The rapid growth of China has led to demand of luxury goods, the current young professionals are shunning their parents choices which tended to be more dressy and are now more European, green is seen as lucky. Combine that and the Chinese demand for the Hulk is high. Also growth in middle East and since gold is not allowed (?) In Islamic faith the demand their is strong for steel case Rolex too. The result, long waits in Europe and America. This is what I was told yesterday anyway…. As I was politely steered away from my question about going on the wait list.

I did put my name down for a standard sub, and for the Harrods black bay. I was told the wait on the black bay is currently a year.

The oyster perpetual looks as nice in the flesh as on the web, I like those.

Any hints as to the wait list length for a sub?

I got my bonus in a couple of months. It’ll be sub or explorer 1 time for me then. I’ve put my name down at Watches Of Switzerland on Reagent street but got the impression she was just going to throw it in the bin when we walked out – they’re not short of buyers in there.

Gold day dates though…. dime a dozen.

@neilnevill thanks for information interesting and coherent 😉

Had this arrive in the post Monday:

Re-Issue of the Newmark 6BB Chrono[/url], which now uses a Seiko mechaquartz movement.

Really well made a wears nicely.

Wasn’t told how long for a sub….I was told ‘it’s an expression of interest only, wee don’t promise you’ll ever get one.

I think I’ve read on forums that it’s 6 months to a year though, but highly variable. ADs don’t really operate a chronological wait list, the customers they think are most valuable get the goods… Harrods noted down my ownership of a PO and I was asked about other watches I own. All a bit odd but that’s how they all work AFAIK.

Was told that realistically it will be 12 months before even getting a sniff of the basic black Rolex Sub, with another jeweler saying that if your not an existing customer then (off the record) you simply wont get one.

Some decent (30%) discounts here on Omega:
https://wbruford.com/collections/the-big-w-bruford-sale?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Omega

I’m really liking the Newmark dirkpitt74.

It’s true that you always want what you can’t have. I never really fancied a Rolex but now I find Sub’s are damn near impossible to get hold of I really want one!

This is what I was told yesterday anyway…. As I was politely steered away from my question about going on the wait list.

I notice they didn’t tell you that Rolex actively seek out ‘previously enjoyed’ watches, largely through their AD network, which they then destroy to artificial limit supply, which artificially increases demand for new ones, the supply of which is artificially restricted, to make and keep the prices artificially high.
Used to want a Rolex, until I discovered their build quality was iffy and they are a bunch of a$$hats.

There are better choices imo.

Exactly lowey. If you really want one, buy a datejust or oysterperpetual, then ask about the sports watch, you have a chance then. My asking to go on the wait list is more an experiment than anyhting. I don’t want a submariner. Well…I’d not say no to one, but I’m not going to drop 6 to 6.5 K on one. Its an experiment. IF I do get a call in a year or so, I’d pay and collect then flip it probably.

cromolyolly, Rolex do odd things to create and maintain the brand. Did you know Rolex is a charity? Odd sort of charity? I’ve no idea what charitable work they do, but the watches fund something. Seems weird to me.

I like the newmarkk too, that is smart!

Used to want a Rolex, until I discovered their build quality was iffy

Your opinion on asshatery is you’re own but we both know that’s not true.

but we both know that’s not true.

Your opinion and mine on that differ. Having handled and inspected a reasonably large number of rolexes I know for a fact that their movements are superb and their case/bracelet finishing isn’t. I am not the only one who has that experience either. If you want the better part of a car for your watch you should probably not leave mill marks/burrs/sharp edges on them.

Rolex aren’t a charity. Charities have rules governing their behaviour. Rolex clearly behave in an anti compettive way, which undermines the marketplace to their advantage.

It says they are owned by a foundation on the website but I wouldn’t interpret that as them being a charity.

I’ve been offered a Chrono Colt Quartz for the money he has been offered by Watchfinder, £850, is it a good buy?
Its stainless with a blue dial and looks in good condition, comes in the box with papers, and he is a very genuine chap.

I literally know nothing of these things and clearly blame you lot.

I’ve been wearing this 24 hours a day for the last 12 years. I’ve had to replace the rubber components in the strap which is a fiddly job, but apart from that it’s been perfect. Apart from not being able to cope with timezones that are not a full number of hours out of sync with Germany, which is a problem in India.

Rolex SA is owned by the private Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, which is registered as a charity and does not pay corporate income taxes.. So basically, Rolex pays their employees and give the rest of their profit to charity, that’s why they are considered a ‘non-profit company’.

mugboo, a Breitling? Hmmm. do you like it? if yes then get it if you can afford it. Breitling are not going forwards at the moment though … but if you like it don’t worry about that.

The Hans Wilsdorf Foundation is a trust, into which Hans Wilsdorfs shares went. It is a non profit private trust so no one knows anything about how much money it has or disburses. As of 2011 they declined to answer any queries regarding their charitable activities. Rolex SA also releases no financial information, all of which is perfectly legal.
No one has any idea how much money the business is retaining although informed estimates suggest they have cash reserves sufficient to operate for many years without any revenue whatsoever.
Paying no corporate taxes and being a charity are two different things. It is Switzerland, after all and our understanding of things like charity have different meanings there.
After all, Rolex were originally based in London but left for Geneva to avoid taxes. Make of the rest what you will.

as i said, its weird!

Thanks Neilnevill, I had skimmed the thread and noticed the lack of love for them.

I’ve had a colt Chrono automatic for about 20 years, nice watch, reliable and looks good on a blue leather strap, got it on this morning.
Brietling are a bit meh atm a watch dealer told me years ago it was because they kept chopping and changing designs and models and spoilt a sort of heritage building up and effected prices (mine was 40% off when I got it as it was last years model) Not sure if I’d buy a quartz for that money may be more inclined towards a Magrette for slightly less
Jesus Christ how difficult does it need to be to post a poxy image on this forum!

Jesus Christ how difficult does it need to be to post a poxy image on this forum!

https://postimages.org/ is your friend.

Is anyone going to buy a Hamtun H2 next month?

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