Today, if you're English…

Ohh FFS!!

If you're English you should be proud of your country, it's done may great things.

Nothing wrong with patriotism.

Read the thread!!

It talks about british design and british engineering.

Nothing to do with the war
Nothing to do with the people who flew it.

Eh? I thought it was about being English?

'Nothing to do with the War'? 'Nothing to do with the people who flew it'???

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Happy St Georges Day everyone and wish you a great weekend.

Sorry, sleepy after lunch, updated post

Its about english design and english engineering

I think the only thing that could make this anymore English would be if we had to queue up and discuss the weather before we could complain and argue!! 😆 🙄

I've really been trying very hard not to bite on this so far, but here goes, one little nip! 😉

'Nothing to do with the War'? 'Nothing to do with the people who flew it'???

etc. etc….

Only if you make it so. The original opinion from LHS who posted the first Spitfire pic was
"Its not a celebration of wars, its a celebrations of great english designs, designers, and engineering, something we should all be proud of as an engineering nation."

But some people just CANNOT leave an opinion at face value. They HAVE to argue. Their opinion MUST be right. It MUST be better.

When, in fact, it's just out of context, boring, and sad.

That's it. Said my piece. 🙂
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So, let's have another iconic English thing –

You know for a fact that that would be insulting do you?

As a piece of briliant engineering it's worthy of iconic status alone.

I could actually ask an old Polish guy on Sunday.

This thread is the very epitome of Englishness. Petty, Small-minded, bad-tempered, deliberately provocative and argumentative. Keep it up. Tally ho! 😀

oh, and….

LOL @ Binners. 🙂

Only if you make it so. The origional opinion form LHS who posted the first Spitfire pic was
"Its not a celebration of wars, its a celebrations of great english designs, designers, and engineering, something we should all be proud of as an engineering nation.

I'm sorry, but you can't separate an instrument of war from War itself. it would be lovely and convenient to forget the nasty War bit, but that would be forgetting the brave souls who fought for our freedom. As wonderful a piece of engineering as the Spitfire was, it was designed and built as a weapon. Not like some nice little sports car.

It's iconic status was created by those who flew it. They must never be forgotten.

Why must it solely be an 'English' thing? Why can't it be representative of all those who fought against Fascism? It wasn't just England that fought against the Nazis…

There's another 'English ' trait; ignoring history…

I give you Sir Barnes Neville Wallis

Talkemada,

Why don't you just leave it and accept that there are varying opinions. Ok? Best of luck.

continue to reclaim a pride in being English – but make it a pride in the liberal freedom loving English – not the nationalistic fascist ones

Superb!

They never will be Talkemada please don't worry about that.

And onwards. We shouldn't forget the 'Great Stately Homo of England'

His own description of himself so don't have a cow.
Edit; Unless you're Nick Griffin then please go ahead and have a very very large cow.

Ooooooooooooh, Robert Plant. Sex god.

binners – Member

This thread is the very epitome of Englishness. Petty, Small-minded, bad-tempered, deliberately provocative and argumentative. Keep it up. Tally ho!

….and, were we all to meet in the real world at a bus stop, we would, despite our differences, form an orderly queue whilst apologising for being bumped into by everybody in the process.

We would then tut if the bus was late and sit as far apart as possible when we did get onto the bus.

I'm sorry, but you can't separate an instrument of war from War itself

I can.

EDIT

Don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

A Welsh pride thread would have to have things on it that were Welsh not British.

So what about things that are English and NOT British?

Uplink – WOW! 🙂

uplink, thats the best homebrew set up i've ever seen!

It's lovely isn't it?

Yeah I forgot about the Thermos flask.

It is indeed an object of rare beauty. 🙂

EDIT
I mean the engine, not the flask! 😉

The expropriation of British Icons as English ones such as the spitfire are a symptom of the malaise that upsets the non english brits.

Was it England or Britain that fought in the war, built and flew these planes?

Celebrate England and Englishness by all means – just don't confuse British with English

Celebrate England and Englishness by all means – just don't confuse British with English

I'm not. That's your job. 😉

im proud to be english and british every day

i dont really need a day devoted to some christian saint forced upon us by our norman conquerers to feel good about this country

The expropriation of British Icons as English ones such as the spitfire are a symptom of the malaise that upsets the non english brits.

Was it England or Britain that fought in the war, built and flew these planes?

Celebrate England and Englishness by all means – just don't confuse British with English

TJ. You've made your point i think.

Now back to the pub for another spitfire.

good to see nearly 250 posts celebrating St Georges Day

I wish the best for all of you.

*raises a glass of ale * to this warm sunny green yet dusty plesant land

Ride on.

(The Hovercraft, not the RNLI)

uplink – +1 for the 'beer engine'!

-terrible book, mind…

Designed in England built in England, later on parts were built elsewhere.
Britain amongst others fought in the war?

The plane itself however is of English origin design and build. It is what it is that we celebrate not what it did. It is not a symbol of England, but it is a symbol of great engineering which just so happens to be English.

+1

LHS, The Vanguard class submarines are British (Royal Navy) and are all based in Scotland, how is that English?