Titus Fireline Ti 29 Evo..

email from Brant said 34.9 seat post collar

Boring question… but what would be the warranty on these frames…? Can’t see any detail on the on one site.

Site updated with some frame spec stuff.

Warranty is 2yrs.

The headset size required quoted on the On One website is ZS44, EC50. Is this the same as ZS44, EC49? I think the lower measurement is actually 49.57mm?

If its made by Van Nicolas – why only a 2year warranty? As Van Nic offer a lifetime…..

The On One badged Lynskey 456ti frames came with a lifetime warranty

Warranty is 2yrs

Surprised at that

EDIT Rik beat me to it!

why only a 2year warranty

I guess ‘cos it limits on-ones liability and keeps costs down?

The headset size required quoted on the On One website is ZS44, EC50. Is this the same as ZS44, EC49? I think the lower measurement is actually 49.57mm?

EC49. Quite right. I will ammend.

If its made by Van Nicolas – why only a 2year warranty?

It’s not made by Van Nicolas.

Warranty now sat at 3yrs. Am discussing.

Available early December, is this still right Brant?

So will one be at London Bike Show then?

Warranty now sat at 3yrs. Am discussing.

I’m not in the market to buy one as I already have 2 very nice 29ers in Ti, but if I was then I wouldn’t buy one with a limited warranty lifespan.

The old titus frames (rrp around £1600) had a final rub-up with scotch brite and I always thought it spoilt the look of it. I remember the old website or one of the old catalogue’s showing a worker finishing them off and once you unboxed the frames you could see that the welds were nicely laid out but slightly spoilt by scotch brite scuffings going across the welds. Infact,the welds had polishing/heat marks going across them. (poor welder must have been pissed off)

I always cursed this person at the end of the production line. In the above pic,is this still happening?

Tell them to buff up only what’s needed!!

Andy – Member

Warranty now sat at 3yrs. Am discussing.

I’m not in the market to buy one as I already have 2 very nice 29ers in Ti, but if I was then I wouldn’t buy one with a limited warranty lifespan

Specifically because it’s a Ti frame ?

Would you buy an Alu frame with a 2-3 year warranty ?

Specifically because it’s a Ti frame ?

Would you buy an Alu frame with a 2-3 year warranty ?

Kind of agree with Andy. I’m not sure of relative failure rates, but if alu frame fails it’s a much lower loss. Steel frames are fairly easy to repair. If a ti frame fails (and they do as polenty of threads on here show) it’s an expensive and specialist repair. Hence I’d want a longer warranty or (as On-one) a cheap intial cost.

Sorry should have been a bit clearer. Any frame will fail but I guess if I am paying £700-£800 for a bicycle frame I’d expect it to last longer than 3 years, or the supplier to make an undertaking that they expect it to lat longer and back that with a warranty.

Sorry should have been a bit clearer. Any frame will fail but I guess if I am paying £700-£800 for a bicycle frame I’d expect it to last longer than 3 years, or the supplier to make an undertaking that they expect it to lat longer and back that with a warranty.

I dont see the problem, Santa Cruz only have a 2 year warranty on their carbon frames that are 3 times the cost of the evo.

I’m out now, just sorted an awesome deal on a Lynskey Pro29 VF 🙂

In fairness both On One and Santa Cruz both have very good reputations with Warranty claims

Kind of agree with Andy. I’m not sure of relative failure rates, but if alu frame fails it’s a much lower loss. Steel frames are fairly easy to repair. If a ti frame fails (and they do as polenty of threads on here show) it’s an expensive and specialist repair. Hence I’d want a longer warranty or (as On-one) a cheap intial cost.

Didn’t someoen on here get a Ti frame repaired and it turned out to be a lot less than people imagined (about £120 to re-attach his headtube rings a bell)? And 2-3 years is still a fair amount of time, long enough for any manufacturig defects to show up, which is what a warrenty covers, a component reaching it’s fatigue limit or being stuffed into a tree wouldnt be covered under any warenty (although some places might offer some good will).

And if the price stays as it is then it’s not much more (and sometimes less) than some comparable aluminium frames anyway (SC highball £599, canfield yelli £850, titus fireline £699).

We all know that a warranty has a cost associated to it for the supplier, so I wonder how folk would feel about buying an extended warranty on bikes/frames? Pretty common thing to do on most consumer goods, cars, etc these days. If I was buying a frame for 700 quid I could be quite tempted if they were also selling an extended warranty.

We all know that an extended warranty has a profit associated to it for the supplier, so I wonder how folk would feel about buying an extended warranty on bikes/frames? Pretty common thing to do on most consumer goods, cars, etc these days.

FTFY

If your TV stops working it’s hard to the manufactuer to argue as it shouldn’t fail unless you’ve poured coffee down it, if a bike fails then they could just say you’ve used it more than average and have had a a reasnoble lifetime out of it, as any manufacturing/design flaw lieka weld not penetrating properly or a seatstay not upto the disk brake forces will become apparent relatively soon.

Is it yours?

ooooh that’s pretty 🙂

Does this mean they are now in stock and being shipped out ?

Titus US have them up on their shop now, with some pics. The larger size doesn’t quite look as nice to my eyes. Shame. It also looks like the headtube is to long and needs cutting down above the TT.

http://shop.titusti.com/product-p/frtitfl29.htm

The warranty is 2 years “for all structural issues and manufacturing faults” according to the man from On-one, who also helpfully then added “The paint and bushings are covered for 1 year for manufacturing defects.” Paint, bushings? Right then.

Paint, bushings? Right then

😆

Seems the seatpost diameter is 31.6mm not 30.9mm according to one of the first owners, is this correct Brant?

So some have been sent out?

usa only unfortunately

The HT does look as though it extends a bit too long…….

Seems the seatpost diameter is 31.6mm not 30.9mm according to one of the first owners, is this correct Brant?

I hope not … I have a brand new 30.9 Reverb sitting here and I ain’t using a shim.

I hope not … I have a brand new 30.9 Reverb sitting here and I ain’t using a shim.

I hoped not too, but having checked in the USA, it does seem to be the case that they have come 31.6mm fitting.
Which I am obviously quite dissapointed about.

Ian. What spec is your Reverb? Perhaps we can arrange an exchange for one of these here – http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SPRSREV/rockshox_reverb_adjustable_seatpost

Mine’s the full retail pack with bleed kit. 2012 model – 30.9, 420 length, right hand lever, 100mm travel.

Arse! My new thomsons no good then

This thing looks God damn sexual…But seems to come with the issues associated with a hot blonde! 😀 In the process of building a Titus Rockstar right now and might very well be in the market for this too and try out the Ti HT too…hmmmmm. Fair do’s though Brant, you are straight in there to try sorting the Reverb issue, hope that works out for Swayndo.

2 year warranty? Nice. I have an old Titus HCR with the full Titus lifetime warranty – and they were fantastic at repairing a hairline crack on a weld after 3 years of racing.

Whats the new seatpost clamp & front mech size now!

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OD is the same. 34.9mm.