The Star Wars Spoiler Thread

get a grip.

The username “fuzzywuzzy” makes me want to hurl.

Get a grip.

so whens it going to be out on BluRay 🙂 i wonder if there any “special editions” – there is already chatter of cut scenes and scenes in the trailer and in “making of” that are not in the movie (although they could be for the next one)

films like this make me want to get a bigger telle!

It’s generally better to wait for the complete set on blu ray I reckon. I bought the first 6 as a set well after the individual discs came out and it had tons on it the single discs didn’t

Saw the film on Friday. Really enjoyed it. Very much the feel of the originals and glad lucks was kept away from cgi overkill.

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http://www.wildatlanticway.com/stories/islands/views-of-the-skellig-islands/

Instantly recognizable from a few seconds into the scene. Great place but a lot calmer than when I went.

great film.
trying to be all things to all men, but still a great film.

things no-one has mentioned yet:
– Kylo Ren will now have a tasty scar on his face from the fight with Rey
– Han Solo’s freighter, the Rathtars and the two gangs he owed money to were straight out of Red Dwarf….

Saw it last night and thought,all and all,it was pretty good.
Only bad points.
I found the Scots smuggler/pirate’s accent cringe worthy, along with the one that wishes Poe good luck on his final attack run. It was all a bit too Highlander.
They could have just CGI’d Carrie Fisher’s part, a corpse would have acted better.

Carrie Fishers acting was awful and she looked terrible, It makes me laugh when actors / actresses state they are “getting into shape for the role” What role was that Ms Fisher & Mr Hamill? a Greggs?
I know she was drugged up for most of the OT, but even that was better than her acting in TFA.
Fair play to Harrison Ford though, he may not look like much but he’s got it where it counts. His lines were ace, and his play with Rey / Chewie was excellent.

If the movies follow any of the lore from the books that have been written over the past 30 years….

I thought they told in no uncertain terms that so-called expanded universe (e.g. all the books, fan fiction etc.) are not used in the newest “new” series. Wouldn’t be too surprised if they lifted some parts of fan fiction anyway…

Good film, sometimes trying bit too much and some scenes could have been deleted or shortened. I guess they just wanted to create opening for multiple plots already now. Some things that bothered me:
– masked baddie was quite disappointing (superbad or teen angst) and he removed his mask too often.
– ex-storm trooper fella was asthmatic?
– scenes designed purely to get reactions from old fans

he may not look like much

if I look like that in my 70s I’ll be happy, cheers.

saw it friday. made even better afterwards, when i took the wife for a pint, bumped into a friend I havent seen all year. He worked on it (carpenter – went to the Wednesday pre-showing)
so we had a good chat about the details, the crossover from real to cgi, scale etc. He has the utmost respect for the sprayers.

There’s a fairly plausible theory that Rey was at Luke’s academy as a small child and therefore would have some force/jedi training – hence the ease she picked up flying/lightsable fighting/mind tricks.

The theory is that KR was at the academy, went bad and killed some other students. Academy was shut down and Luke went into hiding.

Rey is a Skywalker/Solo and was in training but quite young. She was then sent away/hidden on Jacku with Max Von Sydow character to watch over her.

I’ve kept away from spoiler sites before watching and after apart from this thread, and this was how I read it.

I have a pretty reasonable grip on reality, but I was surprised at my own emotional response at THAT first chord, once ‘A long time ago..’ had jump cut to THAT scrolling text. I did see the original at 6 in the cinema, when you had to queue and hope to get in, and I did see the 3 which shall not be named too.

I stayed to end just in case there was something new, I left feeling I’d wasted time and money.

With a couple of days to reflect on it, I’m going to score it 2/10.

im glad im not the only one.

the way i look at it it was 50% episode 4 50% episode 6 so, at best it can only be 50% good. but unfortunately it has none of teh good bits of episode 4 so therefore gets scored low (30%). It could have made it up with a few funky new ships, a badass baddie or a new world or 2 but out of the whole imaginary multiverse they booked a doctor who set for a space freighter, went back to a desert and had yet another crappy death star – very **** lame.

i’ll probably go see it again though as it is star wars and i’m a sucker for a tie fighter/xwing battle.

you score a film 3/10 and will still go back for a second watch?

If the movies follow any of the lore from the books that have been written over the past 30 years….

I thought they told in no uncertain terms that so-called expanded universe (e.g. all the books, fan fiction etc.) are not used in the newest “new” series. Wouldn’t be too surprised if they lifted some parts of fan fiction anyway…[/quote]

I did mention this in my post, I meant they may have taken certain story lines, plots, characters from the expanded galaxy, I wasn’t particularly clear!

Personally, I really enjoyed it, I was grinning from ear to ear all the way home. Yes there was some rehashing of original ideas (Star Killer for example) and a lot of it was familiar territory, but for me that’s why I enjoyed it so much, I felt like a kid again, I didn’t get that with episodes 1-3.

On new ships, my understanding was the idea that the X Wing has developed like our joint strike fighter to be multi role capable. Plus they look totally badass in black.

Y Wings were the equivalent of Star Treks red shirted security, B Wings and A wings .. just a bit lame really. The horse is dead and needs no more flogging after 1-3 tried it, and failed in yet another way.

X-wing cavalry coming over the lake did it for me.

I didn’t spot it in the trailers, but that whole place looked very familiar

Plenty of us have ridden our bikes over that ridge (apologies if I just rubbed some of the mystique off)

http://colinbell.photography/star-wars-at-thirlmere/

And I definitely agree with some of the posters on here about the urgency of the plot and the overbearing similarities to EpIV. I still really enjoyed it and the future’s good for the other films.

Did anyone else correct her when she said 14?
Out loud, to the rest of the cinema?

“It was 12!” 😉

you score a film 3/10 and will still go back for a second watch?

yup. no one else will take my older daughter and she might actually like it as she`s not fussed by the first 6 episodes.

i just love teh imagary of it too. some bits were excellent. and its star wars – you have to try. you never know i might learn to like it?

Still a lot of brits in space!

But the scots gang guy?! Nah. As said very red dwarf! (I’m allowed to moan about it being scottish!).

We to a party with Daisy Ridleys god father at the weekend, hadn’t seen the film so couldn’t get too many details without ruining the film.

It felt like an extended teaser for episode VIII, to be honest. I’m not entirely sure what the main arc of the story was supposed to be. Was it the search for Skywalker or was it to stop the supersized Death Star?

If it was the search for Skywalker then I felt a bit cheated. If R2D2 had woken up when the BB-8 ran into him then that would have solved that mystery pretty quickly.

If it was to blow up the ‘not-the-Deathstar’ then that was a bit disappointing too. When they dropped the first lot of bombs and one of them said, “But we didn’t do any damage.” and Poe said, “I know, we’ll just have to keep bombing it. It might take a while… oh shit, here come some tie fighters” then you knew there was no clear plan. Things were just going to carry on until the Kylo Ren/Han Solo thing was finished.

Which brings me to Han Solo’s death. I was surprised that I wasn’t really bothered by it at all. I’m not sure why, if you told me that he was going to die beforehand I reckon I’d be a bit choked up but the way it was done just left me feeling meh.

Ren kind of annoyed me. He reminded me of Anakin in II and III. The bit I found weird was when he was sitting talking to his Darth Vader helmet saying he felt the light side calling him. Darth Vader kept his conflicts buried deep.

Saying all that, it was OK.

One thing I’m looking forward to is what happens with Leia and Ren. I got the impression that Solo already knew that Ren was too far gone to be saved. If you’re going to slaughter entire villages it must be pretty hard to come back to the light side. She seemed to be blinded to this by a mother’s love. Now that he has killed Solo this could be setting us up for some decent drama in the next film.

Ok so was it just me that thought Anakin / Lukes lightsabre was lost down the toilet chutes when Vader cut off Luke’s hand on Bespin? I assume wrinkly 1000 year old woman retrieved it.

Otherwise excellent, saw in it 3d imax on Saturday, booked months in advance for number 2 off spring. Saw it in 2d again on Sunday when offspring number one decided she wanted to see it as well. The X wings across the lake was awesome.

Awesome, love it. Some loathsome cheese, holes in the plot too but who cares!

Loved it. Think the trailers promised a little bit more however, which is why it was a bit of a shame to see Phasma brushed aside so easily in favour of the nostalgia and old characters/plot.

BruceWee

One thing I’m looking forward to is what happens with Leia and Ren. I got the impression that Solo already knew that Ren was too far gone to be saved. If you’re going to slaughter entire villages it must be pretty hard to come back to the light side. She seemed to be blinded to this by a mother’s love. Now that he has killed Solo this could be setting us up for some decent drama in the next film.

All of which might be very hard to sell with a rubber face. No harm to her but Carrie Fisher was painful to watch. As I said earlier I think the whole Kylo Ren / Han / Leia drama seemed like a misfire. Kylo Ren should have killed Leia in a flashback or something, I can’t see her doing much in upcoming films.

Kylo Ren should have killed Leia in a flashback or something

They could have done something a bit more enigmatic with Luke too. I don’t think anyone would really have believed he was dead, but the ‘we just don’t have the map to his seaside retreat’ thing was a bit clunky.

Isn’t Carrie Fisher alcoholic or something similar these days? Might explain the lacking acting ability. I thought Mark Hamil did a better job.

I thought Carrie Fisher was ok, bit too much botox admittedly. Doesn’t take herself very seriously now, she was pretty funny on Graham Norton the other night.

Just back from seeing it. I thought it was great but my enjoyment was overshadowed by the abysmal 3D that made me feel like I’ve been smoking crack! Dreadful. I have no interest in 3d just I’d have had to wait another half hour for 2d – won’t make that mistake again…

Isn’t Carrie Fisher alcoholic or something similar these days

Years of drug and alcohol abuse plus she’s also bipolar

Well, I gave it a go. Not for me, I assume it’s for kids and fans of the 1st films. I even watched the Family Guy Star Wars in anticipation so I’d know what was going on.

Everyone else seemed to enjoy it and the lad playing Fin was very good.

Just got back from this now… and I am surprised to see that my ‘meh’ feelings on this are pretty well matched with what others have said above. Thought I’d be the only one! Even down to the WTF? Red Dwarf?? Bit. Eh?

Likewise, I’d really stopped caring by the point Han Solo got shafted. Some bits felt a bit Harry Potter (why is professor Snape wearing a mask?) and the sense of a coherent Star Wars ‘universe’ seemed to have been lost most of the time. Made all the more grating by the creaking old rubbery actors reprising their roles in a fairly lack lustre way.

I thought all was lost, at the point I found myself idly botanising the plants on the clifftop path to Luke’s hangout – sea campion anyone? And wondering whether those really were Star Wars universe sea birds?

Until… the last 30 seconds of the film, that were briefly utterly captivating and emotionally nuanced. Unfortunately, also leaving me hungry for more.

I’m hoping Mark Hammill can rescue this.

Well he did a sterling job in Wing Commander III 😉

He was OK in Kingsman.

I think its worth remembering that part of the job was to engage us older fans, at the same time as bringing on new fans to the franchise.

“We” needed to continuity of the original cast, but thats done now and we been nicely led onto the next movie, whereby with the exception of Mark Hamil, Chewbacca and the droids who appear timeless, I’d expect Ford & Fisher to be dropped and so we move on.

I could see the captivation in some of the kids eyes at all the space/tiefighter/xwing type stuff, and like Empire before it I hope that some new fantasy vehicles are rolled out to keep that captivation. I know – although I won’t take him – my 6yo would have been goggle eyed at the movie.

In my eyes then, its worth remembering how we all felt when we saw Episode 4 for the first time, particularly how ground breaking the Special Effects were at that time; something this film isn’t able to achieve in these current era, which no doubt lessens the impact somewhat.

Lets not forget that JJ is probably slight been backed into a corner with this one, lets face it, Disney probably stated the type of characters and age range and violence/topics to be covered & to prop it all up for another 2 movies – we had most of the cast looking below 21 and
english white female
african-american
italian-american
american-white male-hunk-bad
and the usual disney’s good ‘v’ bad type of plot

and also he couldnt even touch on anything that were in the prequels – or anything similar plotline wise because thats just too toxic to touch (i.e. the backstory to Ren is actually so similar to Anakin, would we want to see/be reminded of that all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

given all that, i think he did a great job!

Agree it makes more sense as a transitional movie, it doesn’t justify how average it was though. Lots of repetition to:
Young, poor person on a desolate planet who has the force – been done
Father and son conflict – been done
Destroying a planet-killing weapon – been done
Evil character struggling with good conscience – been done
and lots more besides

I think the most interesting part could have been Fin’s story but it wasn’t really covered, just a rudimentary village butchering scene to set the stage for him deserting.

Although in his latter years he comes across as a bit of a dick (in real life) I think the best parts were Han and Chewy’s interactions, bit of humour and action mixed together reprised their original roles well.

Watched Guardians of the Galaxy again last night – stands up much better as a decent sci-fi film with humour, I even cared more about most of the characters than in Force Awakens.

african-american

John Boyega’s from Peckham, bruv.

I thought it was fantastic! Better than I was expecting, although my expectations were pretty high.
It wasn’t perfect, but the bits I thought were weak didn’t detract from my enjoyment of the rest of it that much.
The main niggles I had were:
The story was so similar to A New Hope, it felt like a lazy attempt at a plot – but I can see how they may have intentionally wanted to re-create the original film’s feel.
I thought Snoke & the rathtars were a bit rubbish and too CGI.
Rylo Ken was way too uncharismatic an actor – it was a let-down when he removed his mask.
That’s about it. The rest was awesome! The new characters were great and it would still have been a decent film even with much less Han & Chewie.
I much prefer the gritty, more realistic, less-CGI heavy settings and less OTT action sequences when compared to the prequels. This film is firmly back on track IMO.

Oh, and Luke Skywalker absolutely stole the show! Not bad, considering he was on screen for about a minute tops!