The Star Wars Spoiler Thread

i thought it was awesomeballz
nearly shouted out ‘its the millennium -****-falcon but was surround by kids so contained myself. Nearly in tears at a couple of points…strangely it was the flying battle scenes, felt like a kids again.

JJ pulled it out the bag.

/doffs cap

Wow, just in from the pics. Total rehash of ANH. Biggest positive I can come up with is that it definitely has the same feel as the original trilogy.

Oh and why was Smeagol in it?

Just back from Cinema – adored every moment of it!

I’d heard somewhere poor old Han (and he did look old!) bought the farm, but I had no idea about who Kylo was (my spelling it probably way off) the only complaint from the group of 6-12 year old lads we took was that the ending was “stupid” – they wanted it to carry on! Broke a few hearts telling them it was 2 years before they actually heard Luke speak!

I also felt as though it seemed unbelievable that he’s some kind of badass sith leader

He’s not Sith

Sith have the “Darth” prefix – Sidious, Maul, Vader etc

It was also mentioned in the film that he had abandoned his training and slaughtered the rest of the Jedi apprentices. I felt the character was portrayed as petulant and immature and far from the finished article. The Supreme Leader tells Hux at the end to get Ren and bring him to him to complete his training

He’s not Sith

Sith have the “Darth” prefix – Sidious, Maul, Vader etc

Count Dooku

Count Dooku was his pre-sith / cover name, his name was Darth Tyranus

I hate myself for knowing that.

Dooku wasn’t a Sith

Edit: of course he was. Remembered the tyranus name but forgot it was him

All Sith have 2 names, so they can pretend they’re not the baddies when they’re out shopping or filling out a job application – they don’t want everyone knowing.

it’s even better the second time around! Quick! go and watch it again!

I got a bit emotional when Rey said, “This is the Millennium Falcon??! You’re Han Solo??!”
Awesome. Nerdy or not, it’s a lovely feeling to enjoy something so much that has been a part of my life for nearly 40 years. Made ten times better by watching my young kids get hooked on it too.
Fabulous. JJ Abrams is God.

BoardinBob

He’s not Sith

Sith have the “Darth” prefix – Sidious, Maul, Vader etc

It was also mentioned in the film that he had abandoned his training and slaughtered the rest of the Jedi apprentices. I felt the character was portrayed as petulant and immature and far from the finished article. The Supreme Leader tells Hux at the end to get Ren and bring him to him to complete his training

Regardless of his title (lets call him bad jedi), he was still the main villain of the piece. He could read minds, control people, had telekinesis, had his own fancy mask and lightsabre and yet he struggled to defeat two characters who had literally NEVER swung a light sabre. So my suspension of disbelief went right out the window.

So my suspension of disbelief went right out the window.

Yip. It would almost be a documentary if it wasn’t for that bit 😆

All Sith have 2 names, so they can pretend they’re not the baddies when they’re out shopping or filling out a job application – they don’t want everyone knowing

There was a bit in the new film about the Sith being gone. It may have been Maz that said it. In the prequels they said the Sith had been gone for a millennia. Doubtful they’d pop up 30 years later.

Either way, my interpretation was Kylo Ren was far from the finished article. The Mega tantrum when he’s told that BB-8 escaped etc. Plus he was injured by Chewie’s bow caster.

Could Finn be a descendant of Mace Windu?

Is Rey Luke’s daughter?

Is this possibly the geekiest conversation I’ve ever had?

yet he struggled to defeat two characters who had literally NEVER swung a light sabre

How do you know this is the case? We don’t know their backstory yet…

BoardinBob

Either way, my interpretation was Kylo Ren was far from the finished article. The Mega tantrum when he’s told that BB-8 escaped etc. Plus he was injured by Chewie’s bow caster.

And yet at the start we see him stopping a laser/phaser blast in mid flight and holding it there indefinitely. Not to mention the other jedi powers I mentioned. Stuff Luke couldn’t do even when he was training with Yoda.

beej

yet he struggled to defeat two characters who had literally NEVER swung a light sabre

How do you know this is the case? We don’t know their backstory yet… [/quote]

Never given any reason to suppose anything other than that in the world of the film. But if you want to go into it I thought lightsabres were weapons only jedi used “from a more civilised time” or some such.

But he’s not a Jedi/Sith – he’s in training, so that implies he’s not the finished article and since he lets his emotions get in the way prone to errors.

Fin wasn’t too hot with the Lightsaber, he got his ass kicked by Kylo and the funky Stormtrooper with the lightning rod thing.

Rey clearly has blood rich in midichlorians so seems to be able to do things well that she’s never done before – like flying the Falcon (talented pilot like her dad – if it is Luke?), Fixing the Falcon (talented mechanic like her grandad) and she was pretty handy with that stick thing as it was her weapon of choice when she was a scavenger, so not a great leap from a stick to a lightsaber.

I’m glad there was no mention of midichlorians this time, it always struck me as a pseudo-science attempt to unnecessarily explain the mechanics of ‘the Force’.

‘May the Force be with you’ also sounds better than ‘May your blood be rich with midichlorians’.

Some interesting theories

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2015/dec/19/star-wars-the-force-awakens-the-five-finest-fan-theories?CMP=fb_gu

Never underestimate the power of the scifigeekpedants

Is that possible?

Has this been posted yet?

Just got back from seeing it, and it was excellent. Really enjoyed it, now want to go see it again 🙂

Goddam it, that was so good.

Everything I hoped it would be.

http://www.wildatlanticway.com/stories/islands/views-of-the-skellig-islands/

As to how the two untrained fighters were able to fight Kylo so well – you can’t forget they did have the advantage of not having been shot by Chewie just moments before – they clearly showed he was wounded to emphasise it, maybe even twice.

If the movies follow any of the lore from the books that have been written over the past 30 years then, Rey and Ben are brother and sister albeit with their names changed. Jacen and Jaina Solo are Han and Leias kids and Jacen becomes a Sith Lord (Darth Caedus). They both trained under Luke at the Jedi Academy. However I remember reading that all should be forgotten about what has gone before, which is a shame. However it’s certainly looking like it’s heading that way.

It’s a remake of the Empire Strikes back with a villain that’s trying really, really hard to be like Snape from Harry Potter but failing. I stayed to end just in case there was something new, I left feeling I’d wasted time and money.

With a couple of days to reflect on it, I’m going to score it 2/10. I got dragged along to see The Lady in the Van a couple of weeks ago, that’s pretty bad but not as bad as Star Wars.

There’s a fairly plausible theory that Rey was at Luke’s academy as a small child and therefore would have some force/jedi training – hence the ease she picked up flying/lightsable fighting/mind tricks.

The theory is that KR was at the academy, went bad and killed some other students. Academy was shut down and Luke went into hiding.

Rey is a Skywalker/Solo and was in training but quite young. She was then sent away/hidden on Jacku with Max Von Sydow character to watch over her.

so
anyone going to see it again

i am thinking before the kids break up for christmas! 🙂

I’m going again

I could probably fit in a 3rd before the end of the year 😉

The biggest mystery is why Kylo Ren has features that resemble neither of his parents. That nose, those ears!

That was awesome. I found myself with tears in my eyes all through the film. Can’t wait to go again.

Yes, it echoes all the old films, but that’s what I loved about it.

All we need to do now is round up all the DVDs of the prequels and have a mass burning.

A brilliantly made film which will pull in us ’40 something year old’s’ whilst also appealing to the ‘yoof’ of today

Yes – some glaring plot holes – but i really don’t care as the original three were pretty terrible in many ways – but they were the best films of my childhood

Christ – i even watched Empire Strikes Back backwards on a betamax… 🙂

Will be going to see it again ASAP 🙂

Daniel Craig?

Daniel Craig?
Was standing guard over Rey whilst she was shackled in chair,so I’ve been told.HtH.

Having seen kylo Ren’s Todger on “girls” I remain unconvinced he has what it takes to rule the galaxy

4o years old here and loved every minute of it , my wife watched ESB when it first came out and was hooked again this evening , every sound from the Falcon and Tie fighters sent a shiver down my spine

The plot had a few holes in it ,the story as a little bit a new hope but it didn’t matter , 2 hours of being that child again wanting to be a Jedi.

Loved it and will be back before the years end to watch it again

Having seen kylo Ren’s Todger on “girls” I remain unconvinced he has what it takes to rule the galaxy

Maybe that is why he is so angry, and keeps beating the shit out of inanimate objects with his lightsabre.

I thought it was OK but not amazing – I can see it would be really enjoyable for a younger generation. For me it was all just a bit obvious and contrived (as are the first couple of films seen through adult eyes). All the talk of “nearly in tears” and stuff makes me want to hurl, yes it was a big deal in many of our childhoods but get a grip.