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  • wobbliscott
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    My first thought was the Rey was Lukes Daughter, but then Jedi are supposed to be celibate. I think she might be Leah’s and she somehow hid her from Han. I’m now thinking that though Luke has been the key character, Leah might actually be the key and stronger in the Force. I can Imagine a the line in one of the sequels mid lightsaber fight Ren says to Rey “I am your brother”.

    I was just willing Admiral Akbar to come out with the line “We can’t possibly repel firepower of that magnitude” when they were planning the assault on the planet.

    eulach
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    I did say

    I’ve seen better 3d

    But I nearly reached out to touch the bow of the ssd when it poked its nose out of the screen.
    No idea where snoke came from – my Starwars universe (EU) never happened – thanks Disney.

    I was just willing Admiral Akbar to come out with the line “We can’t possibly repel firepower of that magnitude” when they were planning the assault on the planet.

    this made me laugh – How long do Mon Calamari live?

    maccruiskeen
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    If they slow EP VIII down and head off in the same style but with the (mostly) new cast and a new direction… it’s going to be incredible.

    I wouldn’t hold your breath for better films to come. Really enjoyed this one – properly crafted scifi- sets, locations, sound stages with shiny black floors – people acting with the spaces and people around them rather than mime artists in green boxes. But Disney has to turn the handle so fast to get the billions back they paid for the franchise now. One film a year from now on – they are just going to lack craft.

    bombjack
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    One film a year from now on

    Not quite, 16 months till episode 8, 2 years after for episode 9.
    They will do a film a year, but these will include the Rogue leader and Han solo movies (think ep 3.5 and 3.75…)
    I actually shouted Akbar! at the movie screen when he appeared.
    The woman next to me looked scared.

    vintagewino
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    the only thing I was disappointed about was nobody lost an arm.

    jedi
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    loved it. loved every brilliant minute

    kenneththecurtain
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    But I nearly reached out to touch the bow of the ssd when it poked its nose out of the screen.

    Yea, that was pretty awesome!

    miketually
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    My students have just spent a lesson writing spoilers on mini whiteboards and leaving them in the classroom for tomorrow’s classes to find

    that’s nice of them[/quote]

    I went in early and cleaned them off.

    wobbliscott
    Free Member

    Regarding limbs, C3P0 had a red arm – that was not really explained even though specifically mentioned. Is it a special arm?

    I couldn’t tell in the end if Kylo Ren lost any limbs. I couldn’t quite see what was going on at the end of the lightsaber fight with Rey. He certainly got a nice meaty scar across his face.

    uberscott
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    One film a year from now on – they are just going to lack craft.

    Not at all – they aren’t being made one at a time, both Rogue One and Ep.VIII are already in full swing, and they are going to be made with as much care & craft as Ep.VII. You can take my word for it, I work at Industrial Light & Magic, the VFX company behind all the Star Wars films 🙂

    back2basics
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    did anyone see the One show with Warwick Davis interviewing George Lucas – GL looked totally p*****d off !

    has anyone got that bb8 toy that roams around your house and controlled with your phone???
    just askin’…..its for a friend….

    boltonjon
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    Absolutely marvellous!!!

    Blew my socks off – so much better than i had anticipated

    For the person above who wrote Needed cool new spaceships

    Are you mental???? Was there not a massive cheer in the theatre when the Falcon first appeared?

    If you want new ships, go back and watch the shite Ep. 1 to 3

    Favourite character was Chewy – proper scene stealer

    Loved it and i’m still buzzing

    hopster
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    Loved it!!! Smiled, cried and laughed all the way through. Scene when the x wing fighters come in across the lake are awesome. Sheer nostalgia made it for me.

    Amazing, amazing oh and amazing!

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    Wow

    Just back. Had the cinema all to myself apart from one guy a couple of rows in front.

    It is absolutely fantastic.

    When the falcon appears I gasped and was in tears. The whole thing was such a big part of my childhood.

    Loads more welling up moments.

    Such a good job by Abrams.

    eulach
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    For the person above who wrote Needed cool new spaceships…

    Are you mental????
    As a minimum:
    Ep4 – Everything
    Ep5 – Slave 1, Tie Bombers
    Ep6 – B wing, A wing, Scout speeder bike
    Ep1 – Naboo Fighter, Nubian Royal Starship
    Ep2 – Jedi starfighter, Republic gunship, Dooku’s sailship
    Ep3 – New Jedi starfighter
    Ep7 – Rey’s Massey Ferguson rip off, Imperial shuttle painted black, New sensor dish on the Falcon

    Sorry, but it’s important.

    terrahawk
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    New 2 seater Tie Fighters
    Massive hollowed-out planet with a massive gun in it
    cool flappy-winged spaceship for Kylo Ren
    new paint jobs on X Wings

    there’s probably a few more that you’ll notice when you watch the film a few more times (you will be watching it a few more times, yes?)

    vorlich
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    Bit surprised by how blinkered positive you all are. 😉
    It was OK. 3.5 out of 5. Vast improvement on the last 3.

    We re-watched the first 3 recently, and I have to say they’re pretty shit. The music, set and costume design made Star Wars IMO.

    It’s essentially just Episode 4 again. Thought the first third was slow. Enjoyed the humour though.

    Fairly sure the final scene was a mash up of the Old Man of Storr and St Kilda

    faustus
    Full Member

    Skellig Michael/Great Skellig off Ireland was the location for the last scene…

    vorlich
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    Right enough, similar geology. Sure I’d seen some was filmed in Scotland, perhaps not.

    jonnym92
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    Yeah there was a picture of Mark Hamill in a pub pouring a Guiness circulating at some point.

    I enjoyed it, though did feel like a remake story wise – the Storm Trooper spinning/nunchuck/club thing was so cool. More of that please.

    Going back to watch it again for sure.

    ocrider
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    I can Imagine a the line in one of the sequels mid lightsaber fight Ren says to Rey “I am your brother”.

    That’s what I’m thinking

    Best joke of the film for a French audience is when Poe gives Finn his name because he’s not going to call him FN 😀

    pirahna
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    Got out of work early so thought I’d go to see it. I’d give it 5/10 at best, I wish I’d gone out for a ride instead.

    outlash
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    Took my boys to see it yesterday and it’s good, ‘proper’ star wars, unlike EPs 1-3. It’s essentially a re-hash of EP4 but it had me grinning. laughing and the odd jaw drop so job done for me.
    I’m probably in the minority but I thought Daisy Ridley was pretty wooden, her ‘acting’ face was gritting her teeth most of the way through. Kylo Ren looks far more interesting than Darth Vader ever was and Snoke is sackboy from Little Big Planet.

    Pawsy_Bear
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    Saw it in 3D extreme.

    I’m a Star Wars fan, disappointed. B movie. Same old story re hash. Might get better next episode? Lacked story and credibility for me.

    tandemwarriors
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    loved it. loved every brilliant minute

    This.

    Absolutely marvellous!!!

    This too

    Loved it!!! Smiled, cried and laughed all the way through. Scene when the x wing fighters come in across the lake are awesome.

    Oh yes oh yes

    When the falcon appears I gasped and was in tears. The whole thing was such a big part of my childhood.

    Loads more welling up moments.
    Yes this too.
    Just loved “You’re cold???”

    Still buzzing.

    muddy@rseguy
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    I couldn’t help noticing that there are still no railings fitted on all of those high walkways.

    That’s the problem with super weapons, your basic heath and safety considerations take a bit of a back seat.

    nasher
    Free Member

    I liked that the lighsaber fights were like the originals.. Not the ott cgi of 1,2 and 3

    saxabar
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    Brilliant! Really liked the continuity with 4,5 and 6, the settings, clothing and the tech. Really like Rey – lots of promise there. Couldn’t help think of the calendar thread (sad, I know!) 🙂

    Euro
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    Took my boys to see it last night. All big fans and we all enjoyed it but i was a little disappointed with the plot. Felt like a reboot at times rather than a new chapter. Even some of the new characters are just new versions of established ones. Sets were awesome as were the cossies (although i think clone troopers look more menacing than the chunky, almost cuddly storm troopers). Some nice creatures too and just the right amount of humour and terror. Loved BB8 but wish C3PO would **** away off into the night.

    Fingers cross that this is the slightly awkward movie that merges the old with something awesome and new.

    saxabar
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    Fingers cross that this is the slightly awkward movie that merges the old with something awesome and new.

    Really enjoyed it, but yep, definitely the transitional episode.

    Kojaklollipop
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    This:

    When the falcon appears I gasped and was in tears. The whole thing was such a big part of my childhood.

    Loads more welling up moments.

    I thought it was only me! The sound of the TIE fighters and Mellenium Falcon going into lightspeed. Same when the X Wings came across the water and the old characters appeared.

    Was a bit dissapointed when the bad guy removed his mask, I was expecting a nasty looking thug instead of a pretty boy. How come his long hair wasn’t sticking out the back of his helmet when he had it on?

    Anyone remember sets of cards you could collect back in 1977, you’d get about 5 cards and a very hard stick of gum?

    Really enjoyed it, although I feel like I need an episode 6.5 to fill in some details. I’ll have to go and see it again.

    selaciosa
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    I’ve read a few comments about the casting of Adam Driver as Kylo Ren – I think he’s a brilliant choice. What did you want him to look like? He’s Han and Leia’s son – nasty thug wouldn’t have fitted. The instances when he smashed up stuff linked really well for me to the moment he removes his mask – I saw him as a petulant child at that point albeit a really sinister and evil one.

    soobalias
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    Han having a go on chewies crossbow.

    Euro
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    Han having a go on chewies bowcaster.

    I pretty much just saved your life there soobalias 🙂

    rossendalelemming
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    For those of you wanting the previous 30 years filling in. They’ve produced a load of books and comics under the heading “journey to The Force Awakens” to do that.

    I’ve not read any of them so I can’t tell you if they answer your questions.

    soobalias
    Free Member

    cheers Euro, if there is one thing i fear more than a pedant, its a scifigeekpedant.

    🙂

    piemonster
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    Never underestimate the power of the scifigeekpedants

    fooman
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    Having just seen it the initial reaction from my daughter was ‘how did they get so old quick!’ she only saw the originals a couple of years ago…!

    It does have a reboot feel but surely that’s the point – more of the things we loved and less of the stuff we didn’t want. No trade negotiations, sanctions or fart jokes (yes there is a fart joke in Ep.1)

    The only thing I really didn’t like was Han & Rey finishing each other sentences but it’s a minor quibble.

    codybrennan
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    A few folk have mentioned disappointment that the plot borrows from ANH, but I think that’s a point the writers are trying to make.

    The universe the characters inhabit is locked in a struggle for balance, and when we come in, the balance is still shifted heavily towards one side. This explains the repetition: events are locked into a circle, and the only path out is the restoration of this balance.

    This actually chimes with other stuff Abrams has done: Lost used this idea extensively.

    I’m assuming that, as the story develops, we’ll see this change.

    jimjam
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    Any good will I had towards the franchise was brutally murdered by the prequels so I had no desire to go. My friend pre booked tickets for me so I was out of excuses.

    I thought it was okay, I’ll be in no hurry to re-watch. A lot of the story telling seemed contrived and the whole plot was a bit cookie cutter-esque and reliant on coincidence. A bit more time spent on development or fleshing out some of the world and the characters would have been nice, instead it seemed reliant on the fact that you would associate one character with a similar one from the past.

    The twist/shock reveal about Kylo ren seemed utterly pointless. He’s wearing a mask, it wasn’t implausible for Han not to recognise him….all Leia needed to say was find our son and then…..blamo he takes off the mask in the final battle scenes and it’s actually a surprise.

    I also felt as though it seemed unbelievable that he’s some kind of badass sith leader already and yet two completely untrained individuals can hold him off in a sabre duel.

    He should have been more of an understudy, and less of key villain character so when he’s beaten (implausibly) by the girl he would have motivation to go away and redouble his efforts to become less shit at lightsabre driving, that along with his patricide would spark a more believable character arc.

    Also a good number of the effects look like just that, Carrie Fisher’s face appeared to be entirely CGI and Harrison Ford looked like he needed to take a dump (or had more interest in doing that). But I would go and see the next one out of curiosity and I imagine it’ll be better.

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