[Closed] The South is so much better than the North of England...

London's great. It keeps the Cock[s]ney[/s]s away from the North.

FTFY

London's brilliant! It provides a valuable service to the rest of the country as a [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/london-****-drain-great-for-provinces-2014012882966 ]**** magnet[/url] 😆

Given that 'the north' starts just past [s]Exeter[/s]Bristol!, I'm inclined to agree.

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My first visit to London aged 16, coming from social seclusion in darkest Cumbria I stepped out of the railway to be confronted on the street by a random drunk tramp shouting stuff at people walking past, I was like wtf!
This is my abiding impression of London, it hasn't improved much over the many times I've visited since.

And to buy a one bedroom hovel in some shithole, where you could hear that tramp shouting all night, it will you cost you the same as the GDP of Spain

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Drac +1 😆

This is my abiding impression of London, it hasn't improved much over the many times I've visited since.

And that's the problem. Visiting somewhere is not the same as living there.

You didn't see all the fantastic bits. Doesn't mean they aren't there.

I could say the same about the North, if my only experiences were the M60 and Preston.

London's brilliant! It provides a valuable service to the rest of the country as a **** magnet

Some of the posts on this thread would suggest otherwise...

I'm a Londoner, I love it. I'm fortunate to have a house with a garden and a garage, and I appreciate being able to do things with my children easily - parks, museums, zoos, general amenities. Hell I went ice climbing on Sunday, jumped on the tube to get there

I love the countryside, but the reality is that I do a job that is pretty specialist, and where the market for that skill is good in London, it is possible outside but definitely harder.

Every area has their positives and negatives. I wish the riding was better, I was the mountains were closer, I wish I had land, I wish it was more affordable, I wish I wish I wish

I have space for 5 bikes, a motorbike and 2 cars. My kids are in a good school. My family is close by. I can cycle to work, but the tube station is a 5 min walk away. I can get buses easily if I want to. Life is pretty good really

Perhaps THM there is just a sense of humour difference between the North and the South...we have one and they don't 😉

These threads always end up like this

I have lived all over including the north and the south the only real difference I would say is that up North you can talk to a stranger without them shitting themselves and thinking you are mental. Bit of a generalisation but apart from that people are just people

Life is pretty good really

And ours will be good too.

One day.

When we get elecktrickery.

And indoor plumbing

And carriages that move without horses

Not long now....

Perhaps THM there is just a sense of humour difference between the North and the South...we have one and they don't

i guess it’s the same for the potato fries on clavicles..

We had that in Le Touquet, bloody lovely

I guess the wink was not enough for you get the humour bit and I don't think that post helped dispel the myth 😉

This time last week I was running over Loughrigg Fell in the Lakes before most people were up. Today it was very early round the Devils Punchbowl in Surrey. Hardly saw anyone else on both runs - just a few animals to enjoy the views with. I love the South and North.

Walked down the Thames on Friday and thought the views were equally gorgeous. London is even more spectacular in the evening light. We are blessed to live in such a lovely country.

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I never understand these arguments; we live in an amazing country, with a wonderfully diverse physical and cultural landscape. Every corner of this island has something amazing to offer. I think the insularity and parochialism expressed by some is quite depressing really; you might not like a particular place, but that doesn't mean others can't enjoy it. I could never imagine myself living somewhere really rural and remote, as I'm a confirmed urbanite, but I appreciate that others do, and I welcome such diversity.

"My son is from Durham. like me. He's lived in London for the past 8-10 years or so, Camden, Sydenham & now somewhere else that he's just moved to. Not his own place of course cos he's 'only' on 50K a year so can't afford anything less then a shitehole.
He's looking for jobs further North ATM, had enough of the shithole that it is."

Sounds more like your son just couldn't fit in with London life, than London being a 'shithole'. If he's failed to make a good go of things on £50k, then I'd suggest the problem isn't actually London, but within himself. Which is a bit sad really.

We are blessed to live in such a lovely country

Every corner of this island has something amazing to offer.

You've not been to Rochdale then?

Semi serious?

Having lived in both, I'd say the following, the riding is different (not 'better' just different) you can ride all day in the Chilts and not meet a soul. You could ride 30-40 miles easily whereas in the North the idea if doing that sort of mileage is laughable, the idea that the south is crowded is daft. The massive difference to me having moved north is the obvious lack of investment and infrastructure. Land is at such a premium in the south that the idea of direlect buildings is anathemas, yet are commonplace in even wealthy parts of the north.

You've not been to Rochdale then?

You could ride 30-40 miles easily whereas in the North the idea if doing that sort of mileage is laughable

Its cos we is all fat innit Junky. Its all the pies. 😀

"You've not been to Rochdale then?"

I can't say I have, actually. I'm sure it's got it's plus points though!

Its cos we is all fat innit Junky. Its all the pies.

Is that what he meant ? I thought he might have meant because we have proper mountains and it would just take too long 8)

Hey! Leave Rochdale out of this. You can go to a cafe there and get an all day breakfast with a can of Stella for less than a fiver (I won't put up a Daily Fail link) - bet you can't do that in that there London!

I'm from up here and I love The South because it's full of Southerners- keeps them down there instead of up here 8) Gertcha, git aaaaht of moiah pab, eee ain't wuuuurf it 'chelle, you ain't moiah mavva, knees ap mavva Braaaaaahn, etc... 😆

edit- Northerners having a laugh at themselves and Southerners leaping to the defense of The South? ... Methinks the Southerners doth protest too much 😉

Craft beer with organic free range meat and eggs is the only options I'm afraid

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Land is at such a premium in the south that the idea of direlect buildings is anathemas, yet are commonplace in even wealthy parts of the north.

that’s what i noticed in manchester. prime sites right next to the centre are still rubble or just hard standing for car parking.

"Gertcha, git aaaaht of moiah pab, eee ain't wuuuurf it 'chelle, you ain't moiah mavva, knees ap mavva Braaaaaahn, etc... "

You've been to Basildon then? 😉

Junky I mean the riding is just different. The hills are more rolling in the south, and you can easily do 30 miles at a pretty decent speed, but your height gain would be maybe a couple of thousand feet. Where am I am in the north I can easily do 3000ft in 10miles. Did 25 miles on Sunday and it was a tough ride, whereas 25miles in the Chilterns is a couple of hours after work .

Not better, just different

And carriages that move without horses

Wiiiiiiitch!

I still don't get what's laughable about doing 30-40 miles on a ride in the North?

Without doubt the most tired, hackneyed, parochial, stereotypical, stupid, ignorant, feeble and completely ridiculous thread subject of all time.

Yet. Again.

Who gives a sh1t.

The hills are more rolling in the south, and you can easily do 30 miles at a pretty decent speed, but your height gain would be maybe a couple of thousand feet

Surrey hills is quite.. hilly.

Hills often are hilly, odd concept I know.

Without doubt the most tired, hackneyed, parochial, stereotypical, stupid, ignorant, feeble and completely ridiculous thread subject of all time.

Yet. Again.

Who gives a sh1t?

Ooo! Oo! Ooo! I know! Sir! Sir! I Know!

Is it.....

Chippy northerners sir? Is it Sir?

By 'eck he's on to us!

Just walked the old man of coniston on Saturday and ingleborough on sunday. Scenery is very nice but I still miss the Surrey Hills and would prefer to live around there than up north.

Plus as we driving aay from ingleborough we stopped off at 3 pubs (on the same road) before we found one still serving food, and it was only about 7.30 and all the pubs had 'food served all day' signs outside - the fold up ones you can remove if you are not actually serving food anymore...

First pub looked about 1/3rd full, 2nd one about 1/2 full and the barman was standing there with a meal and bowl of chips in his hand that he was about to deliver whilst he told us there was no food.

3rd one was full and we had to wait 15 minutes for a table, staff were excellent and the food was very good, in a bit of a stark contrast to the attitudes of the other two places. In fact it was more like a pub down here in the surrey actually.

Man goes into 3 pubs and thinks only the one that still had food left is like a southern one. True story.

Just walked the old man of coniston

You should get a dog.

Plus as we driving away from ingleborough we stopped off at 3 pubs (on the same road) before we found one still serving food

Its like the third world up here, I tell you!

You ok hun?

In fact it was more like a pub down here in the surrey actually.

We moved my elderly MIL back to a care home in her own home town in Shropshire after six months staying with us here in Lancashire while she received chemo. She hates it there; she keeps saying: "I want to move back to Lancashire; they're much nicer to me there!"

Arrangements are in hand to move her back north.

Mr Woppit - Member
...Who gives a sh1t.

mostly, it's fun to post things like this:

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and say that it's rubbish up here, not nice at all, made even worse by the lovely, local beer and icecream.

you wouldn't like it.

Check out the eye-watering prices in the Drunken Duck TG - only a stone's throw from Coniston? More expensive than most Surrey pubs IME.

I still crave the days (70s-80s) when they served the most glorious chicken or scampi in a basket (slightly fried chicken)washed down with Theakston's XB. And all for a sensible price.

And quite a few lock-ins in those days

Not like you to cherry pick your data THM?

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Sorry did I miss something? Is this a serious thread? 😯

DEADLY!

That Whitby Drac?

Fantastic YHA there

That Whitby Drac?

No it's in the North.

there are lovely cricket grounds all over the country.
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Nice article I like this one.

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20 years in both, presenty in the inbred farmers section and whilst theres good and bad in both I wouldnt move North.

I wonder how may Northerner's go South for great biking? Cos, Southerners definitely go North.

Beautiful cricket pitches everwhere - I play cricket here, where its been played since the 17th century

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EDIT: Wormsley is a particular favourite and you get a great view of it when cycing in the Chilterns.

I wonder how may Northerner's go South for great biking?

They would, if they knew how good some of it was. And, one suspects, if they weren't so burdened with fried potato products on their upper bodies.

People from the South go to the hotspots in the North like the Lakes and so on. As do people from other parts of the North. People don't come up from London to say, Rivington, do they? Or do they?

@molgrips - where's this GREAT mountain biking in the South....genuine question.

I wonder how may Northerner's go South for great biking?

I've heard some go for hilly hills.

You mean like all those flat moors in Devon, it's true that 25 miles on Exmoor is nothing like 25 miles in the lakes or the peak district, but being an open minded sort of chap I can enjoy the north as well as the south. Actually is it fairer to say the west of the UK has better biking than the east?

Well, I went for a lovely bike ride earlier, and it was glorious. Hardly a soul around, surrounded by green and nature in abundance, mostly dry and dusty trials, some nice food along the way, even found some new trails in an area I've been riding in across 3 decades. Altogether truly wonderful experience. One of those days you're really glad to be alive.

Enjoy what you've got, while you've got it.

local beer and icecream.

nowt wrong with Rebellion brewery & Beachdean ice cream nestling here in the sunny chilterns, mind you it looks like Beachdean have opened a production facility up north - no doubt to save on refrigeration costs

There's a [i]North[/i] of England?

As an inbred farmer, turned farmer, turned sheeperist, turned farmer where could I enjoy living up North? Where has the STW approved scrote to toff ratio, hilliest hills and more scenic cricket pitches than one can shake a willowy stick at?

I'll let Molgrips answer as he's the only one that knows the North and the South, especially hilly hills.

clodhopper
Every corner of this island has something amazing to offer.

binners
You have not been to Rochdale then?

It alright binners, Rochdale is nowhere near a corner.

It alright binners, Rochdale [s]is nowhere near a corner[/s] has a Greggs.

where could I enjoy living up North?

Yorkshire.

It is the predictable STW approved answer 😉

I wonder what % of STW members are from Yorkshire?

We live in Co Durham but have family in Scotland Surrey Stockport etc. My take is there are lovely people all over the place but don't pretend you have proper countryside down south. [b]It's all very Midsommer but all you really have is a strip of green belt between towns.[/b]

The South = Arsey.
The North = Moody and arsey.
The Midlands = Folk who just get on with life.

Signed, an Anglo-Yank who lived in the South most of his life, spent years in The North, the moved to the Midlands.

The North and The South spend too much time trying to be 'it', whilst The Midlands just gets on with things.

My take is there are lovely people all over the place but don't pretend you have proper countryside down south. It's all very Midsommer but all you really have is a strip of green belt between towns.

That's just not true. Yes, there are some places where the towns are close together; but there are up north too.

A part of the South:

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Those are the hilly hills then?

Are they actually really small or just very, very far away?

More South, look at all those towns:

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Those are the hilly hills then?

Are they actually really small or just very, very far away?

No, those are not the Surrey Hills. Those hills are both small and very far away. I live in Wales, I know a hill when I see one.

Surrey Hills:

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I'm not saying it's the best place on Earth, or that it's better than anywhere up North. I'm just trying to educate some of you who are talking total bollocks. There are hills, there is good riding, and there is plenty of countryside.

Elsewhere in the South:

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Dreadful, overcrowded, flat...

Are they actually really small or just very, very far away?

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Dreadful, overcrowded, flat...

I was just going to say that, look at those people and where's the hills?

The Midlands just gets on with things.

When you've even failed to find somewhere nice to live you just have to make the most.

I would honestly rather live North or South than in the Midlands. Unless it's the far West Midlands, Shropshire, Herefordshire.. they're lovely.

Check out the eye-watering prices in the Drunken Duck

we (a civil engineers group that go twice a year and stay at low garth hall in little langdale) used to go there regularly and I remember trying to fit 21 people in that telephone room in the corner of one of the back rooms.

Nowadays we eat in the hut after the walks though - more female partners come along so things are more sedate...