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...After the abuse I received for airing my view on what I thought about public sector strikes which I still believe...
Are any of you brave enough to say you are going on strike ?
yes
I don't get the option to strike, and I've ended up being down to work that day, so I'll be working.
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Get back to work you bloody bunch of work-shy layabouts!!! 😉
After the abuse I received for airing my view on what I thought about public sector strikes
What were your views on the public sector strikes ? Air them again so I can see whether they're worthy of abuse 💡
I work in the public sector and I'm not striking. Instead I'm taking a day off because the teachers at my son's school are striking. Fair enough, its only one day and i get to spend it with my ace kids.
The tories are not listening to the majority of workers in the public sector and if striking will get them finally to put social justice ahead of money then all well and good. I don't think it will though.
Yes
Yup
The tories are not listening to the majority of workers in the public sector and if striking will get them finally to put social justice ahead of money then all well and good. I don't think it will though.
Yeah, we've got loads of spare money to splash around.
Ahh.... hang on....
You are still going to be on here though... right? 😐
You're waiting for the Tories to to put social justice ahead of money? 😯
Good luck with that! I hope you've bought a flask and a warm jacket. That may be a while
I'm not.
But we are going to have a day of obeying the rules instead.
lucky to get pension ! blah blah blah private sector couldnt do my job blah blah blah...what a load of bum !
be pleased you get a pension and you got a job plenty of folk dont have either ! and the people that dont get or cant afford a pension are paying for yours !
Yeah, we've got loads of spare money to splash around.
Yep, that's right, Britain is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. There's no need to make teachers work until they're almost into their seventies.
I'm not (wrong sector) but Mrs mW is striking.
don't see why not, I'll have to work till I'm almost into my 70s..
be pleased you get a pension and you got a job plenty of folk dont have either ! and the people that dont get or cant afford a pension are paying for yours !
be pleased you get people to do shit stuff that plenty of people wouldn't do for all the tea in China
"The empire" - sounds surprisingly imperialist?
like what ? kenny senior ?
unfitgeezer - would you want to manually evacuate someones bowells or tell a child that their parents are dead?
but whats that got to do with a pension ?
everyjob is hard some more than others...
Yep, that's right, Britain is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. There's no need to make teachers work until they're almost into their seventies.
Are you saying someone in their 60s are worthless and near death?
I'll work well into my 70s at the very least. Regardless of whether I have to. What else is there to do?
I'll have to work till I'm almost into my 70s..
You should organise a strike sunshine. There's no need to force people in the UK to work until they're almost 70. Specially when there are millions unemployed.
Are you saying someone in their 60s are worthless and near death?
Well they are certainly getting closer to death. Why ..... don't you agree ?
unfitgeezer - stop trolling.
My wife is. She is so hot right now.
THIS IS NOT A TROLL !
I am airing my view this after all is a chat forum !
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My wife is. She is so hot right now.
I know what you mean.......angry women on picket lines can be a bit of a turn on.
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Surrounded By Zulus you are the troll !
<opens can of troll food>
Go on then unfitgeezer, what's the solution?
i dont have the solution ! not my job to have one either !
but I am certainly not a Conservative...and I do earn under £1000000 and have two children and my wife doesnt work !
No I'm not, we're working to rule.
Why do people still say "We're paying for your pension" I pay for my pension and my employer contributes. Those contributions are made up from taxes that we all pay, that's all as in anyone who pays taxes including yes Public Sector.
Yup,
It's somewhat debatable even if I'm public sector, but as I and my employer (rather than the government, or local government) still pay into the LGPS, then yes.
Why do people still say "We're paying for your pension" I pay for my pension and my employer contributes.
Yes it's an interesting concept, we all pay for other people's pensions. Anyone who shops in Tesco is presumable helping to pay for the pensions of Tesco managers, get on a train and you're paying rail staff pensions, and so on.
I would be interested in knowing more about Danny Alexander's pension details, apparently it would take most people two lifetimes to get what he's got to look forward to. Since it's a topical issue and he's the government's front man, I think he should go public about his pension details. Just so everyone sees that we're all in this together.
I'll be on strike. As will my wife.
Yossarian - surprised you're allowed to take the day off. We're not allowed to take annual leave/flexi to get out of stiking/not striking although I realise you're taking the day off to care for your kid. Annual leave booked prior to the strike day is being honoured but the date has been known for months.
Nope, but they have my support.
I would If I was in a position to do so. I will be supporting the strikers tho for sure
No, and the buggers are preventing me from working
I'm striking up the workers down with the erm..... whats the opposite of proletariat?
the inner party and the outer party. In this case, as its the tories, someone will probably claim its the inner party
Yossarian - surprised you're allowed to take the day off. We're not allowed to take annual leave/flexi to get out of stiking/not striking although I realise you're taking the day off to care for your kid. Annual leave booked prior to the strike day is being honoured but the date has been known for months.
In all fairness I haven't given my employer much choice in the matter. I'll be at the end of the phone and reachable via email if the world ends. If not I'll be back in on Thursday.
Yep, that's right, Britain is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. There's no need to make teachers work until they're almost into their seventies.Are you saying someone in their 60s are worthless and near death?
I'll work well into my 70s at the very least. Regardless of whether I have to. What else is there to do?
Come and spend a week with me and then tell me that having teachers in their late 60's is a good idea.
I am Spartacus!
Will be joining the rally with kids in tow.
Will be on strike. Was going to be joining the picket, but ...
ernie_lynch
angry women on picket lines can be a bit of a turn on
erm ... 😯
or maybe 8)
(depending on who's walking past ...)
unfitgeezer - Member
...After the abuse I received for airing my view on what I thought about public sector strikes which I still believe...Are any of you brave enough to say you are going on strike ?
I'm confused as to why you think it takes bravery to amid you're standing up alongside a couple of million comrades for principles of fairness.
I'll be on picket from 8am.
Apparently my union is taking action short of strike from the 1st December, not sure I will be joining that. A day off wont really harm the kids education, working to rule would. Not sure what I'll do, to be honest.
I'm not but many of my colleagues are (different unions).
My union will likely ballot in January.
Will any striker be holding a singletrack placard in view of any photographer or camera person off the tv.
Just so we know who you are.
😀
I'm striking - I don't believe it will achieve anything, and while I obviously don't want my terms to change, looking at the wider picture across the private sector I understand that my terms are out of line with what "average" people get.
But the union backed me when I needed them earlier this year, so I'm backing them on Wednesday. Not sure I can afford to do it too often though.
Besides, looks like it might be the best day of the week, weatherwise, and Jnr is off school as his teacher is striking.....
I shall toot my horn in solidarity if I pass a picket. 🙂
I shall toot my horn in solidarity if I pass a picket.
Not very often then. 🙄
Yes and incidentally I have never seen any of the Star Wars films.
Not entirely sure tbh (newish job). I think we're not- different union? But if we are, well, I won't cross a picket line.
I am striking. Planning on attending a rally too. Never taken strike action before, but feel very strongly about this, as the STSS is in the black and fully funded for the forseeable future. IMO it is a 3% additional tax on the Public Sector with a double-shafting thrown in for good measure. Cheers Dave!
Not very often then.
Why do you say that then project? You don't think there'll be many pickets? Or were you just in a hurry to post something and didn't really consider what you were about to say. Not that that ever happens much.
Come and spend a week with me and then tell me that having teachers in their late 60's is a good idea.
but classroom teaching isn't the only job a trained teacher can do, you'll have to do what everyone else will have to do, change jobs.
afterall you still expect others to work to 67 to support your teaching, "new school building" that'll be a 67 year old brickie, roofer, scaffolder etc then 😉
STSS is in the black and fully funded for the forseeable future
how much is the "employer" putting in?
deadlydarcy
it was a joke, as in humour,its also illegal to sound your horn for no reason, unless to warn other road users of you being there,
So imagine you toot your horn as some sort of singular support for strikers, and a car berakes heavily in front of you, or a person jumps in front of another vehicle, its not such a good idea then is it, also dont forget al the night shift workers who may live near a strikers base, they will get little sleep , and the strikers will get little support.
Sounding your horn ,its not ,its not clever, and its ilegal. 😀
i work for a charity there is no pension scheme so therefore Id be paying it all on my own ! No employer contributions of any type !
You lot moan but at least your pension is contributed and you'll get a lump sum of some sort ! How the **ck is that fair?
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and im not in the market for changing my job!
So strike away I don't feel sorry for you one bit !
Big n daft or i could just carry on teaching and be progressively worse at it and spend a load of time off sick.
Unfit you chose that i chose something else
What were your views on the public sector strikes ? Air them again so I can see whether they're worthy of abuse
+ 1
To be honest all that are effected should go out.
Being for One days pay they are going to loose an hell lot more
than a days pay and ALL will be paying till they retire !
aa , but your sick rate should be analysed, and you would be offered councelling etc, thats what used to happen when i worked for the NHS, there are other jobs you could be moved over to.
Project your right but it still looks like poor value to the tax payer keeping old duffers hanging around
unfitgeezer - Member
i work for a charity there is no pension scheme so therefore Id be paying it all on my own ! No employer contributions of any type !
Go and get a proper job or simply get a Pension
Your the Jealous Guy the one that does nothing but moan and groan about
what other people have and you have not
Theres a name for people like you but I got banned for voicing my low opinion of you !
Presumably all the strikers here support the striking Greeks?
I have a proper job and I cant afford a pension Id have to pay all on my own!
Jealous I am not!
The employer contributes 14.9%. This is the deal that I signed up to, and was part of my consideration when picking a career in which I knew I'd never get rich.
Our pensions were restructured in 2007 for new entrants who accrue at a different rate. The point of this exercise was to ensure the long term viability of the scheme.
What is the difference now? In the Post-2008 world the Government want to reduce the deficit and Public Sector workers are an easy target for a 3% tax increase. The STSS doesn't need the money, but Government coffers do.
Why not just increase Income Tax for everyone by 3%? Because Public Sector workers are easy to single out and unlikely to vote Tory anyway.
Why cut Tax Credits? Because recipients are unlikely to vote Tory anyway.
See a pattern?
Presumably all the strikers here support the striking Greeks?
non sequitur
Yep -
Would be paying £34,000 more and working 6 years longer to get the same pension I was told 6 years ago would not be changed. Mind you that's what I get for choosing to work in the political football that is education...
unfitgeezer - Member
I have a proper job and I cant afford a pension Id have to pay all on my own!
Jealous I am not!
Indeed you are !!!
And they have to pay into the pension scheme, also State tells the employee
how much they pay in to get a so called descent pension. ITS NOT FREE
Funny that the MP's have the same pension but are going to be excluded in this !
If your not jealous why are you seemingly so angry?
And I would lose over £86000 if I retire at 68, and over £116000 if I retire at 60.
aa, i believe asda and B and Q take on the more mature worker.
Round here we have Balfour Beatty doing an excellent job of renewing the old gas mains, and finding somebody under 45 thats working in all weathers down a hole full of water, ,its cold and it raining is difficult, most of the blokes seem well into their late 50 ,s or sixties.
it was a joke, as in humour,its also illegal to sound your horn for no reason, unless to warn other road users of you being there,
Bugger it project. It went straight over my head such was the level of sophistication. Thing is though, I WILL be alerting my comrades that I'm there. Supporting them. In their democratic right to withhold labour when they're being dicked around. I'm pretty happy with the legality of my horn blowing.
Would you [i]really[/i] want the Old Bill wasting their time nicking me for a solidarity based toot? You're always so concerned about the public sector giving you good value for your hard earned tax spend. Do you think this would represent value for money on the day that the economy is supposedly being screwed for £500 million.
its cold and it raining is difficult, most of the blokes seem well into their late 50 ,s or sixties.
But could they control 30 hormonal 15 yearolds?