Thatcher's died according to BBC

The IRA bombing of her cabinet that killed 5 that missed her. At 9.30am sharp the next morning she opened her parties conference. That woman had brass balls.

Can I just Im not a Tory and WONT be voting for Cameron. She was bloody strong in alot of ways that does give you a certain admiration.

Haha we’ve moved onto people whom are Maggie haters have erectile dysfunction now-how exactly are these two things related? Fwiw I was on the verge of major wood when I heard the news 🙂

Looking around it’s obvious that she left Britain very divided, and I don’t believe that’s a good state for a country to be in. And it will take a long time to heal.

Fwiw I was on the verge of major wood when I heard the news

still can’t quite get to grips with finding joy in anyone’s death, has made me think a lot less of few folk, oh well that’s the joy of humans I suppose, hideous hate filled vindictive little species that we are.

tazzymtb – Member
I can never be crass enough to revel in the passing of another person. ultimately it just reflects badly on your true character.

+1

Hated some of what she did, agreed with some – the balance of context has to be applied to much of her time in power. She became PM just as I was becoming politically aware and becoming interested in how it all works. To this day I have little respect for most politician of any colour. That said, I would have loved Barbara Castle to have been the first woman PM.

Twas a joke tazz hence the smiley! 😥 please don’t lower your niche little opinion of me 8)

Fwiw I was on the verge of major wood when I heard the news

Congratulations cupcake.

Ooh cupcake….I feel tingly.

I wonder what these Burrowing Owls would make of all this..?

bearnecessities, would she fit into your “Instinctive Hatred” thread? Haven’t seen so much hate filled bile on a thread in ages – you never even returned to explain that most folk weren’t quite getting the point. Yet you seem thoroughly disgusted with this one? 😕

To take thatcher policies to their natural conclusion i wonder if her funeral will be privatised?

hora – Member

The IRA bombing of her cabinet that killed 5 that missed her. At 9.30am sharp the next morning she opened her parties conference. That woman had brass balls.

When an assassination attempt was made on Hitler, an hour after the bomb had exploded he “was sufficiently recovered to make phone calls”, and he famously only had one ball. So I don’t think having balls comes into it.

Specially if you look at the state of his pants after the explosion and you realise that he probably no longer had any balls at all :

Those were the trousers Hitler wore during the failed assassination attempt btw.

bearnecessities, would she fit into your “Instinctive Hatred” thread? Haven’t seen so much hate filled bile on a thread in ages – you never even returned to explain that most folk weren’t quite getting the point. Yet you seem thoroughly disgusted with this one

DD, if you’re going to try and quote me, quote correctly; the thread was “cannot stand”, not “instinctive hatred”.

I CBA to respond to your inference that I should be moderating my own thread and if you think that thread at any point contained “hate filled bile”, why didn’t you report it, but otherwise if you want to defend the statements on here of dancing on graves of a dead mother, fill your boots.

To take thatcher policies to their natural conclusion i wonder if her funeral will be privatised?

Well, at least the gravediggers won’t be out on ‘kin strike!

Hitler escaped assassination by turning into the hulk?

Think it would be fitting for Gerry Adams to deliver a eulogy at the funeral, with voiceover actor and subtitles of course!

There really are a lot of horrible Vindictive arseholes on here today.
It’s quite sad really.

Normally people like to hide that side of themselves, but people seem to be revelling in letting people know what they are Really like today.

Very weird. And quite an eye opener.

It’s altered my opinion of a fair few people 😐

ChubbyBlokeInLycra – Member

Hitler escaped assassination by turning into the hulk?

I CBA to respond to your inference that I should moderating my own thread and if you think that thread at any point contained “hate filled bile”, why didn’t you report it, but otherwise if you want to defend the statements on here of dancing on graves of a dead mother, fill your boots.

I CBA reporting stuff. Sometimes it’s best left there for people to see. Fair enough, there’s a whole lot of difference between “cannot stand” and “hate” I suppose. I wasn’t suggesting you moderate your own thread, just maybe clarify what you meant. Would you not agree that some pretty horrible things were said about some fairly harmless people on that thread? (At least it’s only one person on this one.) That you started. Oh and if you’re going to start getting Siliconosus Vaginitis about “inference” then don’t be bothering inferring that I’m defending any dancing on graves. I think you’ll find I haven’t defended that at all.

I cannot believe how many of you [ and let be honest neal* you are not amongst the most sensitive on here for] are shocked at the responses of some on here

Dont go on twitter and as you may well faint

What did you expect them warm eulogies from all and sundry
Many people hated her and they will not mourn her death – what did you expect ?the children of miners to speak about her in warm tones?
*No offence neal you were just the latest to do this and it strikes me as a touch naive to have expected anything different

She divided folk and that has led to this reaction
Her policies [ or the policies of her government] literally ruined lives and communities and some hate her for this.

what do you expect Palestinians to mourn for Jewish PM’s death etc or vice versa[ pick any two polarised views and do this]

There’s quite a substantial difference between not mourning someone’s death and dancing/pissing on their grave…

There really are a lot of horrible Vindictive arseholes on here today.

Perhaps slightly harsh, but I get the sentiment.

Looking around it’s obvious that she left Britain very divided, and I don’t believe that’s a good state for a country to be in. And it will take a long time to heal.

More worryingly she started the ball rolling on the demise of Society, the Welfare State and heralded the rise of individualism also known as ‘F*** everyone else, I’m alright and that’s all that matters’.

Whether we’ll ever recover from that is unclear….

More worryingly she started the ball rolling on the demise of Society, the Welfare State and heralded the rise of individualism also known as ‘F*** everyone else, I’m alright and that’s all that matters’.

Whether we’ll ever recover from that is unclear….

yep, things were just dandy before she came to power….

I cannot believe how many of you [ and let be honest neal* you are not amongst the most sensitive on here for] are shocked at the responses of some on here

this

I’m not getting the superciliously twee notion that ‘decent folk’ should be being polite for fear of offending the corpse..

in fact how **** dare you!?

If you cannot enjoy a bit of humour in death, can’t let your primal spirit out to play for a wee bit of a caper on special occasions, then it’s you that’s got the skewed morality

If you cannot enjoy a bit of humour in death, can’t let your primal spirit out to play for a wee bit of a caper on special occasions, then it’s you that’s got the skewed morality

Most of it isn’t particularly funny however is it?

Margaret Thatcher’s final wish was to be cremated.
Unfortunately, we’ve no coal left

although that was..

yep, things were just dandy before she came to power….

The interesting thing is that they weren’t, and yet despite having the unprecedented advantage of Britain becoming an oil exporting nation, something which obviously no other Prime Minister had previously enjoyed, she still, quite unbelievable, made things worst, eg unemployment, taxation, and government spending, all increased substantially under her. And growth was exactly the same as the decade preceding her. How she managed to make a bad situation even worse, despite having a huge economic advantage, is really quite remarkable.

yep, things were just dandy before she came to power….

No, they weren’t. However if something is broken you fix it. She didn’t. She destroyed industry and manufacturing. She had no interest in reconciliation between the unions and big business. All she did was take the balance of power and shift it violently one way. You cannot simply rip the heart out of industrial heartlands without replacing it with something else. She showed no empathy to many. Many will show no sympathy to her. To those who admire her principles, passion and refusal to change from her view of the world, history is littered with characters with these traits. Few of them were admirable. Neither is she.

I won’t be dancing on any graves neither will I mourn her passing. Others may differ.

yep, things were just dandy before she came to power….

There are always problems to solve and issues to deal with. How you approach them and solve them is the issue. Divide and conquer, which was Thatcher’s style does not lead to a harmonious society long term, the effects of which we now have to pay for….

Oh dear, I’ve only just heard the news.
First thing I thought of was a thread on here and some of the nastiness. I was right.

*No offence neal you were just the latest to do this and it strikes me as a touch naive to have expected anything different

None taken.

I’m not offended by anything that’s been said, I’m no fan of Mrs T by any means.

Maybe I’m just a bit disappointed if I’m honest. I just thought that people would at least try and hide the nastiness behind a thin veneer of tact.

But maybe its better this way, its just unpleasant to witness that’s all.

More worryingly she started the ball rolling on the demise of Society, the Welfare State and heralded the rise of individualism also known as ‘F*** everyone else, I’m alright and that’s all that matters’.

This, sort of

I’m not old enough to really be able to comment on her, but from reading up on the policies this is what comes to the fore.

We do have a society, but its badly damaged – and as a pragmatic leftie it seems to me that Thatchers breed of free-market capitalism can be seen as the basis of the “I’m Alright Jack” personality that this country has taken on.

It’s utter rubbish to say “if you want to succeed, you will” because not everybody can succeed in a capitalist system as you only “win” when someone else “loses” – as otherwise there is no-one to compare yourself against. A manager pays his staff less than he potentially could so he can make extra profit for himself.

How were the towns in the north meant to succeed when the only available industry had been removed from them? It just left a void, causing unneeded suffering and everlasting resentment. They weren’t supported – the cynic would say because they weren’t natural Tory voters?

Privatisation is the theft of wealth and power from the 99% to the 1%. Cameron, Osborne, Gove & Hunt are all just following on in this image, but have learned from Blair how to hide it behind an Etonian smirk.

If this does all indeed stem back to her ruthlessness then I can really see why she is so hated by many in society.

The property debt bubbles we’ve had no end of (under both Tories and Labour), the huge waiting lists for council houses, the billions Councils spent on rented private accommodation for people who should be in a council house are all down to her buying an election by almost giving away council houses (that belonged to local councils) to tenants, effectively giving away billions of state assets with no long term plan on how to cover the gap left.

No matter how nasty and vindictive it gets on this thread, it will be nowhere near as nasty and vindictive as she was.
The world is a slightly better place today.

First thing I thought of was a thread on here and some of the nastiness. I was right.

+1

No matter how nasty and vindictive it gets on this thread, it will be nowhere near as nasty and vindictive as she was.

Yep, no comparison. She never shed a tear nor cared one bit about the millions whose lives she trashed in the name of Conservatism.

If you cannot enjoy a bit of humour in death

A loathsome, vicious, cruel and vindictive creature died today. Good **** riddance.
Try and find the humour there if you can but I wouldn’t bother.

No matter how nasty and vindictive it gets on this thread, it will be nowhere near as nasty and vindictive as she was.
The world is a slightly better place today.

This is kind of my point though, it’s not better is it ?

Her death has made no difference whatsoever, she’s just an old lady who’s died.

Nothing is better now than it was yesterday is it ?

In fact after reading some of the stuff on this thread, its a bit worse if anything.

george square was buzzing earlier.

Maggie, maggie, maggie, dead, dead, dead. was the most popular chant!

First thing I thought of was a thread on here and some of the nastiness. I was right.

There was always going to be nastiness – show no consideration for people and they will show you no consideration in return. Its a sad fact of life and she must have known this.

The people affected by her policies were never going to forgive her as she never said sorry