That Sick Bicycle Co Pinion gearbox bike

Plenty of legitimate concerns being raised here and I can’t dismiss them because yes it is a bit of a gamble but…..it’s going to be brilliant 😀

Keep us updated on the build and how it rides wont you!

I dread to think what would happen if you needed to use their warranty in say 2 years time. From what I can see these are one off frames which will no doubt be phased out in a few months.

Also the fact you are essentially testing their frames whilst paying 2k is off putting, their carbon full sus was a flawed design which cracked around the BB they said so who’s to say this will be different?

Also this quote from the site isn’t great ‘Our rule is if a customer opens a Paypal case without contacting us first they will be automatically banned from all further purchases’

I really hope they do well but I think they need to stick to one or two designs and test them over a 4-6 month period, get some reviews and make any alterations then go in to production with a solid frame backed up with real world reviews.

It’s that kind of statement / response from them that would worry me to give them such a large sum of money – almost a way of intimidating people into reserving any criticisism even if they are a customer that is disgruntled.

This added to the several Facebook slagging matches they have been involved in, making screenshots of criticism and posting them on instagram to ridicule the person, making a huge joke out of someone waiting 3 months for a tshirt and having a borderline meltdown while self – filming last night don’t help to remove any fears.

Fair enough, be individual / be different but at least deal with customers (potential or otherwise) with some respect.

What are peoples thoughts on their new frame, looks a complex thing to say the least!

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Looks like the usual bag of shit they come up with that’s too gnarrrr for anybody who thinks it.

if a customer opens a Paypal case without contacting us first they will be automatically banned from all further purchases

WGAF that’s what a county court claim is for I’m sure a judge would love to decide if they are comedy genius or not.

if a customer opens a Paypal case without contacting us first they will be automatically banned from all further purchases

I’m sure anyone who finds they have to take out a PayPal case isn’t exactly going to be falling over themselves to deal with these clowns again.

Sound like a terrible company.. I wouldn’t give them a penny.

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with added gearbox an minus a brake arm.
But it’s ok,ignore the haterz/normz/cuks.Stay reeel.Sick to the rad bro’s.

I just read anus a brake arm.

Near enuff.

Have they produced anything other than a couple offs and a shed load of cad renders?

Have a little faith 🙂

i had a Brooklyn Racelink and it was brilliant, so were Doc & Joe @Brooklyn – i do kinda like the ^ sick version…..apart from the company making it- they are a bit like Tesla but with beards and tats.

Have they produced anything other than a couple offs and a shed load of cad renders

Yes some t shirts saying the bike industry is shit and some self loving post that seem to support the opinion of others that the folks who frequent STW are all dickheads and aren’t their target customers anyway.

Wonder if next time they release more detritus it will make the front page Of the STW website?

That design is exactly what I’ve been waiting for since a viable gearbox became available.

I would even buy a singlespeed version.

Yes some t shirts saying the bike industry is shit and some self loving post that seem to support the opinion of others that the folks who frequent STW are all dickheads and aren’t their target customers anyway.

Basically this. They are actually a couple of foul mouthed nobheads, with some very odd narcissistic personality traits.

The irony is amazing – endless ranting & tirades of abuse, yet they get all shirty as soon as anything even remotely negative towards them.

Big mouths, small platform. I’m amazed people even consider buying a t-shirt, let alone a bike off them. They are hardly ground breaking leaders of change.

I see they got into the pages of Cranked, could be an interesting read.

What are peoples thoughts on their new frame, looks a complex thing to say the least!

My thoughts are that the link connecting the swingarm to the link driving the shock looks very small for the kind of loads it’ll be taking. I reckonz either the link itself will break or at the very least it’ll chew through bearings/bushings.

Edit: Other than the BB being in the sky, that Brooklyn Racelink STILL looks good. For a design that must be what, 15 years old, that’s pretty impressive.

So the overall reviews aren’t great then lol

I should think we’re all tossers over here because they don’t like that we think for ourselves (mostly), instead of buying into their kool-aid.

That website FAQ says ‘we’re a special bunch of ****’ like I’ve never read before!

I can guarantee they don’t care…..they don’t want ‘squares’ money.

I’d like to believe it’ll be great – it’s basically a rip off of this

SuperCo Silencer

Which was the lighter, racier version of the Racelink.

It’s a great concept for a low maintenance seasonaire bike that eats the rough. It ought to be great if they can deliver but as has been said above the Sick boys aren’t really considering the average STWer a potential customer. I’m not sure I get it but it sure is working for them.

What is working for them though?

In terms of having a company, its two guys in their houses, no stock (they even dropship t-shirts) using customer money to front orders of frames a frame-builder is making for them.

Their behaviour is getting worse, more posts about how far they have come (on Instagram?), how great they are and how the industry is complete shite and doesn’t understand them.

I look forward to see how successful they are when they move to a business premises, actually stock-hold items / provide support and genuinely have a product for sale rather than using customers money to front orders.

The way they campaign to make public anyone that says anything they don’t agree with is something I have never seen before – recent Instagram video calling out a customer because he gave a bad FB review, after 3 months of not receiving an item, and that’s apparently ok? This is hilarious after their recent campaign to stop negativity, or is it just negativity if it is targeted at them.

I have recently removed them from Instagram etc as I moved from intrigue to them looking like genuinely pretty bad people with a gang of guys that follow / back them up no matter how badly they behave.

I did the same. Intrigue about an interesting new product but got bored of photos of people wearing their t-shirts on other companies bikes. Yawn…

What is working for them though?

I have been stunned by the media coverage. Two blokes decide to start a bicycle company. They have no bikes, nothing. Less than twelve months later I’ve seen their mugs on STW and Pinkbike plus they have thirteen pages in the latest Cranked mag and a double pager in this months MBR. Takes some front, I wouldn’t know where to start, but they have certainly managed the promotion side of things rather well. I don’t know how they are going to get on selling bikes but they may be t-shirt millionaires by this time next year Rodney

Rubber_Buccaneer – Two blokes decide to start a bicycle company

They haven’t though have they, they have started a brand. OK, a brand that sell bikes but its not really a bike company is it? Its pretty clear that they aren’t interested in the classic bike industry model so maybe they are looking at this totally different too. I could see this developing into more of a design agency style set up where they produce a multitude of different (possibly unrelated) products under the brand long before they settle into the traditional XC / Trail / Enduro / DH range.

So what we’re saying is that they are a sock/tshirt marketing company.
I’m totally fine with that.

What they are is very good at modern / digital / creative marketing which can be applied across a large product range. I think it’s foolish if they don’t exploit that side of things.

I don’t think anyone is doubting their ability to market themselves, most of the issue people have seems to be with how they conduct themselves towards others – the things they have done / are doing are not the usual hallmarks of a decent human being.

What they are doing isn’t on, it’s almost some kind of scare tactic – criticise us and we will expose you to our fans for ridicule.

criticise us and we will expose you to our fans for ridicule.

peanut gallery

how great they are and how the industry is complete shite and doesn’t understand them

Well, I’m in the industry and I’ve never heard of them. Doesn’t sound like I’m missing much.

I think the OP should follow his heart. The STW faithful follow their heads and all end up riding the same bikes just with different colours.. so to that end, those who followed the likes of Brooklyn and bought into that, now can look back on what was a genuinely interesting time in mtb technology-all be it brief.

The dummy spitting here is predictably terrible and plays right into the ethos they seem to be cultivating. People are allowed to take risks. Why chose to piss on their chips? There’s room for everyone. The amount of handwringing that goes on here about the newest bikes from the big brands to me just shows how crazy the situation is. Just because someone wants to make a purchance with their heart isn’t a crime. I think it’s a good thing there are some people out there looking to disrupt things. Christ knows we don’t need to see another Santacruz out there.

Well, I’m in the industry and I’ve never heard of them. Doesn’t sound like I’m missing much

Really? Sounds like you need to refresh your industry sources. Or get a new industry. I’m joking I’m sure you’re a big deal at Go Outdoors or something (I’m joking calm down) but it’s statements like that that are a gift to the ethos of what these boys are doing. They’re not in this for a laugh as far as I can see, they both have families and responsibilities like the rest of us- unlike most though, they’re doing something about the issues in the ‘industry’ . Such classic Britishness to crap on success. Op, do it!

Yeah. Except these guys come across as unproven twonks.
Money where your mouth is and buy one.
Let us know how your ‘purchance’ goes.

they’re doing something about the issues in the ‘industry’

What issues?

Sounds like you need to refresh your industry sources.

Nah, I’ve just seen dozens – maybe hundreds – of companies come and go. If they stick round for a bit and do something interesting, then I might start to notice them.

Money where your mouth is and buy one.
Let us know how your ‘purchance’ goes.

Will do 🙂

Nah, I’ve just seen dozens – maybe hundreds – of companies come and go. If they stick round for a bit and do something interesting, then I might start to notice them.

Or just stick to something for more than two minutes…

Sick Bicycles – Gnarcissist Luxe by Southern Enduro / QECP Trail Collective[/url], on Flickr

OP I have one of the Ti Gnarcissist Luxe (29er) and love it. Any questions let me know.

Really? Sounds like you need to refresh your industry sources. Or get a new industry. I’m joking I’m sure you’re a big deal at Go Outdoors or something (I’m joking calm down) but it’s statements like that that are a gift to the ethos of what these boys are doing.

That moment when a post goes way out of its depth. Ben is more niche than these guys could dream of being