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  • So…who’s going to be our next PM?
  • TiRed
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    Well if you are trying to out-Nationalist I’d have raised my game to Jerusalem.

    I will not cease from mental fight,
    Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
    Till we have built Jerusalem
    In England’s green and pleasant land.

    I vow to thee is for amateurs.

    kelvin
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    Oh, I dunno… at this point in the Brexit process… and embracing the true believers…

    The love that asks no questions, the love that stands the test,
    That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best;
    The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
    The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

    Unquestioning support? Paying the price? Keep buggering on…?

    Cougar
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    I vow to thee is for amateurs.

    Nah, it’s clever. It was played at Princess Di’s wedding (and funeral) so it’s a shoo-in for Express readers.

    richmtb
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    Liz Truss’ video gives the impression that Liz Truss is lacking confidence in Liz Truss becoming the next prime minister.

    rone
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    Looking at the videos through my film-making/producing eyes.

    Two types –

    i) from the ground up films with original footage (Truss/ Sunak)
    ii) and basically a raid of the Getty library. (Mordaunt)

    The second type is the most disingenuous as they just used tacky stock footage to fill the gaps and are clearly the last minute jobs with voice-over.

    Liz Truss’ video gives the impression that Liz Truss is lacking confidence in Liz Truss becoming the next prime minister.

    EYELINE!

    Liz Truss’s eyeline is terrible though she’s quite clearly reading from a bit of paper rather than a teleprompter – which would have looked 10x better so she could have looked into the camera.

    Sunak has stolen some of the music I used on a corporate film years ago. Chancer.

    They haven’t got Ken Loach so they’re screwed.

    I’m giving the best award to Truss though because at least it’s short and not overblown. Her eyeline is shit though. Wonky honesty.

    However I don’t think any of these films are particularly slick or good really.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Two types

    They tell you which candidates have had the time and money to get ready for this though… loyal government ministers my arse…

    which would have looked 10x better so she could have looked into the camera

    For a normal human. Have you seen her looking straight into the camera….!!!?!


    rone
    Full Member

    For a normal human. Have you seen her looking straight into the camera….!!!?!

    She’s technically addressing the audience in those with occasional camera eyes.

    She’s like a child that’s been left on its own.

    You know what though – people like flawed characters don’t they? That’s why we got the other one.

    rone
    Full Member

    Jeremy Hunt is dangerously close to David Brent. His film doesn’t connect at all. he’s too stiff.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    That Liz Truss video – did someone fit the head on squint?

    martinhutch
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    They haven’t got Ken Loach so they’re screwed.

    Ah, I’m sure they could get him for the right price.
    After all, he did that film that celebrated us getting tough on benefit scroungers, right? 🙂

    rone
    Full Member

    I, Rishi Sunak.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    Crikey looking at the list of candidates only Penny is my choice as the PM now.

    As for the rest do they really believe in their own hype? I mean are they actually leadership quality? Look at them!

    As for the oppositions look at yourselves riding the unicorns. Can’t you wake up from your dream?

    We are in for a rough ride for a while and the bad news is that they are riding us!

    I, Rishi Sunak.

    Pui! Pui! Pui! (Greek lady spitting LOL!)

    ElShalimo
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    Jeremy Hunt has all the charm of a serial killer

    People forget he was on watch whilst the NHS was being slowly dismantled – when Covid hit and the NHS wasn’t remotely prepared, or even had adequate staff for a normal day, he looked on in utter surprise

    chewkw
    Free Member

    Jeremy Hunt has all the charm of a serial killer

    LOL! That bloke Hunt is a puppet on the string.

    colournoise
    Full Member

    However I don’t think any of these films are particularly slick or good really.

    If I was being generous I’d suggest that might be deliberate.

    Bit of an anti-elite, ‘I could do something like that on my phone’, populist play…

    rone
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    If I was being generous I’d suggest that might be deliberate.

    Dunno. It’s possible. I get pulled between Tiktok gasping and corporate formula so it’s possible.

    I would say the slickest production with the most human character would win the day.

    colournoise
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    To be fair, I’m not feeling generous.

    All I actually see is ‘that’ll do – the plebs will lap it up’ thoughtlessness and contempt.

    davros
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    Pork markets never fails to crack me up 🤣

    kelvin
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    As predicated loooong ago… (and not just by our pro Tump pro Putin friend) …rolling back on green objectives and measures about to become key in the leadership campaign… and possibly for the next election.

    inkster
    Free Member

    “However I don’t think any of these films are particularly slick or good really.”

    Remember, these films aren’t aimed at the likes of you and me, (unless you are a 70 year old Tory party member who fought so bravely in WW2).

    Northwind
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    Yup, as mentioned earlier this is aimed at the .29% of the population that have a say. They’re mostly over 60, mostly southern english, mostly male and almost entirely white. They’d have to be crazy to make videos and statements that appeal to the public. The public’s opinion is irrelevant to who we get as the next PM.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    For patriotc songs we need to borrow the italian or Argentine anthems. Iirc all about blood and gore

    inkster
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    That 0.29% of the population is lording it over the rest of us like the supreme court is in the States. Only they weren’t even nominated, all they had to do is pay a couple of squids subscription.

    I can’t think of another example where power has been bought so cheaply. The bang they get from their buck is of nuclear proportions.

    dudeofdoom
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    I keep meaning to join but never get around to it

    dissonance
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    I can’t think of another example where power has been bought so cheaply.

    In terms of results I think whilst more costly, donations to the party and specific mps give a better return.

    Greybeard
    Free Member

    I can’t think of another example where power has been bought so cheaply.

    On the other hand, it’s £25 each, which would be a lot of money for their campaign if another few million signed up.

    So far I’m concerned, ‘we’ (the electorate, not most of STW) elected a majority of Tory MPs, and the democratic route would be to allow those MPs to select their leader. Most of them are smarter than we think (although that wouldn’t be hard) and their nonsensical public utterances are aimed at their supporters.

    inkster
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    “‘we’ (the electorate, not most of STW) elected a majority of Tory MPs, and the democratic route would be to allow those MPs to select their leader”

    Absolutely. What we are watching isn’t democracy in action, it’s democracy in destruction.

    I wish Newsnight and the like understood this and actually reported what is going on for what it is, rather than what it isn’t. If you want to see democracy in action you’d do better to tune in to ‘Love Island.’

    inkster
    Free Member

    When the result comes in, do they announce it by releasing blue smoke from Conservative Party Central HQ?

    welshfarmer
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    They have set a minimum of 20 backers now in order to be considered. It would seem to be a 1 horse race currently with only young Rishi having the quota needed.

    frankconway
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    Let the lobbying bribery and corruption start – I want/need your support and will, of course, look favourably on you should I be granted the honour of leading this great parhy of ours…ad nauseam.

    AD
    Full Member

    Steve Baker is good for a laugh – backing Braverman, being a Brexit cheerleader and then having the audacity to complain about culture wars – chapeau sir! 😂

    theotherjonv
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    Pork markets never fails to crack me up

    The look afterwards that says ‘Why aren’t you all cheering?’ is absolute desperation personified

    convert
    Full Member

    As ever I’m in a conundrum. The short termist in me would like the sanest bod for the job. Not a **** clue who that is mind, but it would seem an honourable wish.

    The long gamer in me would like them to dredge up the most horrific turd imaginable, ideally far right. If the less rabid of the electorate that voted tory in 2019, can’t stomach them at the next GE then happy days, we punt the tories out of power. If the more gammony english residents still vote them in, the case for Scottish independence is a little stronger. Either way, it’s a win of sorts.

    binners
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    When the result comes in, do they announce it by releasing blue smoke from Conservative Party Central HQ?

    They have it printed on a Union Jack banner then fly a Spitfire around the country towing it

    ernielynch
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    Sky News: Conservative leadership race: Date new prime minister will be announced is revealed.
    https://news.sky.com/story/number-of-conservative-mps-vying-to-replace-boris-johnson-could-be-narrowed-down-after-1922-committee-changes-rules-12650178

    £300,000 spending limit for each candidate (excluding travel expenses) – an increase on 2019

    UK politics becomes more like US politics with every year that passes.

    Why on earth does a politician need to spend that much money arguing their case to members of their own party?

    frankconway
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    Plunging into the abyss – braverman has said there are too many people on benefits and she would cut the size of the welfare state.
    Thst’s viagra and multiple orgasms for paid up tory party members.

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    Are any of these candidates NOT fully bought and paid for by the ERG?

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Yes, but you don’t want them to be PM either.

    Quietly hoping that the candidate chosen is so bad it splits off more MPs, and we get a general election against the wishes of the new PM.

    Javid has put a lot of energy into telling Tory MPs just how bad their party looks to voters right now, and where they might be heading… down the dumper… but then offering little in way of explaining how he can change that. Good positive stuff for the non-Tory voter. Going well.

    oldmanmtb2
    Free Member

    Rishi or Penny…. Penny has more kerb appeal for the gammons.. military, “fatcher 2.0” nice hair, not Rishi…

    Rishi not liked in his constituency, his office is in Northallerton not Richmond and lets just say when he was running against Councillor Blakie for the constituency nomination there were some challenging signs in local fields and roadsides “vote Blackie not p***” yes i am surrounded by charming people.

    I think Rishi might come second.

    kelvin
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    I wouldn’t bet against Sunak and Patel being the final two. Which could increase Sunak’s chances with the members. There are a lot of declared candidates that are likely to be developing their support only to fall behind one of those two. I don’t see Hunt being allowed through again, and Javid’s recent behaviour will have lost him support from all sides of the parliamentary party. Mordaunt’s campaign will implode when the voting starts. Truss is a joke candidate that I fear has no chance of getting past the MPs… as someone who wants the Tories out as soon as possible for as long as possible, MPs choosing her would be a welcome shock… I can see the membership getting behind her… December election please.

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