I was surprised to see the bookies had Penny Mordaunt as the favourite, as I had never even considered her. And who the hell is Tom Tugendhat?!?!

I suppose, seeing as it’s going to be a leadership contest, then there’s kind of two types of candidiate- the one we’d like to have, and the one the Tory faithful are most likely to choose. In my experience they are pretty far from being the same!

We are having a bet on this at work.
I’ve gone for Ben Wallace.
My gf has said she wants Jeremy Hunt, as he is easiest to write poems about.
What rhymes with Zahawi?

Tory commentators are favouring Ben Wallace.

he’s from Malawi
he eats Chapati
he knows karate
and teaches pilate…s

Tom Tugendhat?!?!

Brother of Tim Threegencoat?

Wallace was a remainer & may loyalist, but he looks the most likely

and the one the Tory faithful are most likely to choose

Fortunately they dont quite have free rein so its.
The two candidates the tory MPs can live with and then whichever of those is the most nutty gets chosen by the tory faithful.

Baker and Truss put to member vote. 😮

I have no idea but I remain somewhat terrified

Based on Boris, Brexit and Trump logic I’ll go with Raab, Mogg or Patel.

Which one is the most normal? Is it Ben Wallace?

Which one is the most normal? Is it Ben Wallace?

Obviously it depends on what you call normal. Ben Wallace is the only one of the main contenders to have voted against same sex marriages, is that normal?

He would probably say no, it isn’t normal.

Penny has the nicest hair. She gets my vote. Mogg would be funniest though.

Ken Clark for shits and giggles. His Twitter contributions have been good stuff just recently.

Just a thought….. I assume the rules dictate that Johnson can’t put himself on the ballot?

My money is on Truss

For entertainment value it has to be Tom Tugnut-Hatstand, if only because his name has so much potential.

Plus he is a Catholic Jew with French nationality which is quite amusing for a British Prime Minister to be.

Plus his wife is a French judge and senior civil servant, so her commute to work from 10 Downing Street should be interesting.

Edit : Just a thought – as someone who is half foreign would he be allowed to look at Top/Most Secret stuff?

Nicola Sturgeon. I no longer recognise this cabal as a legitimate government. 😆

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Ken Clark for shits and giggles. His Twitter contributions have been good stuff just recently.

Isn’t that a parody account?

Just a thought – as someone who is half foreign would he be allowed to look at Top/Most Secret stuff?

The previous one was born in America.

I put a fiver on gove a couple years ago and it’s still sat on my Paddy power account as an open bet, so it needs to be gove!!

Someone call it on the other thread, Ramsay Bolton.

And who the hell is Tom Tugendhat?!?!

Dad was a high court judge, and he’s ex military…couldn’t be more Establishment  if he tried.

Rees-Mogg, a return to Victorian values. Literally. The comedic value would make it worth it.

I’m hoping for Fabricant

After the litany of lies to come out of Downing Street in the last couple of years do we really want a PM whose name literally means fabricator?

Well, the hair’s a talking point at least

I assume the rules dictate that Johnson can’t put himself on the ballot

er, no, I don’t think they do. Not unless they actually do the no confidence vote thing.

Unfortunately, Matt Hancock is not standing.

Cthulu or skeletor.

I’m guessing that it’d be too late now, but on balance would it be worth the £25 to join the party to have a vote for the least-worst leader? Like some people did for Corbyn. Or would the damage from extra Facebook ads they could buy with my money outweigh the benefit? Obviously if you do this you’d hope it’d never come out that you were a member, for the sake of your reputation.

The received wisdom up until last time was that it was never the early favourites, as some get knocked out their supporters coalesce around a lower profile candidate.

Obviously Johnson blew that out the water, but I think we could see something like that happen again this time.

So it won’t be truss or sunak, might be mordant, might be Wallace.

Apparently Rebekah Brooks has got it in for Hunt, so I wouldn’t put any money on him. That and that he was a remainer.

It’s mad how the guy we all hated for **** the NHS now seems like a beacon of sanity in the context of the current Tory party.

Given how he did such an effective job of banishing the moderates and surrounding himself by career yes men, I fear that whilst Johnson’s replacement won’t have his “charisma” (take that however you like) he or she will still be cut from the same cloth simply because of the party that he has created!

More meet the new boss, (almost the) same as the old boss I’m afraid…

And anyone who thinks either a snap General Election will happen, or would change anything anyway, is sadly very deluded…

Getting rid of Blowjob really is only the tip of the iceberg. Letting him stand as an MP in the first place (I bet David Cameron severely regrets letting him stand for that seat rather than attempting to stand for London Mayor again!) has caused untold damage, it was always obvious that someone with his character and desire for celebrity would jump on any bandwagon that gave him a platform to further his career, and the hard of thinking were always going to lap up any bullshit that he could feed them, so once he threw his hat in the ring with the Brexit referendum the situation we are in now was always inevitable I am afraid!

If we recover from Johnson’s impact within a generation I will be VERY surprised… 😔

Ideally no remainder but judging from the pool the best they got so far are:

They are all interim until they prove themselves.

Penny Mordaunt should be the choice for PM.
Nadhim Zahawi for deputy but cannot be PM, for now, because his style does not suit the moaning oppositions.
Ben Wallace should just remain where he is. Lack leadership quality.

The rest are just not even worth noticing …

Hunt? Not even worth mentioning … puppet on the string.

Getting rid of Blowjob really is only the tip of the iceberg. Letting him stand as an MP in the first place has caused untold damage, …

I keep hearing all these damages done by BoJo but what are those damages exactly? Pandemic? Sanctions? Grain shortage? What exactly?

chewkw, I know you’re doing your best to be objective and to remind us all to be too… But seriously?!?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

He is, as Trump himself said, Britain’s Trump… He stood staunchly in the face of the inevitable, literally denying it, preparing himself to carry on business as usual. He has put celebrity above policy over and again, he has created a movement who care significantly less for substance (to the point that they are very prepared to forgive unforgivable behaviour!) than they do for emotion, and he has pushed the idea that the PM is above the law over and over again!

The fact that he has (more by luck than judgement) managed to make a few decisions that have resulted better than they perhaps might have done is merely coincidental. A broken clock is right twice a day after all!

Ken Clark for shits and giggles. His Twitter contributions have been good stuff just recently.

You mean the same Ken Clarke who hasn’t been an MP for nearly 3yrs, having been ousted by Blowjob for not being enough of a yes man…? 🤔

Also the Twitter account isn’t him, and never has been. It’s a parody account, that when he was questioned about it some while ago, he was actually quite impressed by their tenacity and their accurate grasp of the situation! 🤫

chewkw, I know you’re doing your best to be objective and to remind us all to be too… But seriously?!?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

All I can sense is that many try to find perfection in an imperfection.

I mean how many PMs do people need in such short period? Nothing can be achieved with all the uncertainty going on especially during the present global problems.

Doesn’t matter now that BoJo is gone.

Well, let’s go for next ride with another PM … woohoo!

If Tom Tugenhat throws his hat into the ring will he thereafter be Tom Tugen?

Well it really doesn’t make much of a difference who gets the job… the acceptance of the brexit mythology by all (even Starmer) means that no progress can be made and managed decline is all that can be delivered. Rishi actually identified it in his resignation letter when he spoke about telling the public the truth (about the state of our economy) even the institutions who normally dish out the reality of our ecomomy (BOE, ONS etc) are either playing down the news or it’s suppressed by the Tory press, they are worried about the rest of the world realising what a desperate position our economy is in.

This is also masked by full employment and wage increases to counter the cost of living crisis. I am no economist but the fault lines are in plain site. At some point a government is going to have to really piss sections of society off.. Boris functioned as a sort of Liberal and the electorate now expects a range of handouts, tax cuts and inflation level pay/pensions awards.

The debt payments are quietly becoming a material burden – Rishi knows this is unsustainable so he ****ed off (he didn’t give a shit about Boris)

There is no sensible way forward economically (without CU/SM membership) … so that leaves a very limited set of choices for any government regardless of type.

Option 1 (retrenchment) – Low tax, low wage, low regulation, reduced public services (Thatcherism) = Fiscal Conservative small government = poor people get even poorer – yes its possible

Option 2 – there isn’t an option 2 in the Tory ideology.

If Tom Tugenhat throws his hat into the ring will he thereafter be Tom Tugen?

No. Tom Onegenhat.