Our (level headed) MD saw a "ghost" last week!

Talking of Alice

When he got home his wife, who is some kind of spiritualist detected his unease. She “examined” him and said he’d been visited by the spirit of a caretaker who had died in the factory’s boiler room.

So did a caretaker die in the boiler room? Or have I missed someone already asking?

I’ve had an ‘experience’ and I’m a non believer. It made me feel warm and safe.

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Davidtaylforth in Elland by any chance?

If so I’ve been in there. Nothing sinister but Im amazed with counsellors/planning all round it over the years that it still stands

Not my pic but apparently its haunted
http://www.panoramio.com/m/photo/37010903

There were two recentish deaths in my house. Both with the same bloke a St Retford copper.

Nothing sinister- just a sad coincidence but one of them used to pop up for two years in a row in the kitchen where she passed away. Always at a similar time.

Im neither way tbh. If there was money to be made, boy there’d be billions spent investigating it but as it is its always a semi-focused/funded search.

I love ghost stories.
I will tell myself and anyone else they don’t exist.
When I get called to work in dark switch rooms in empty buildings, I get the heebie jeebies, big time.
I could read a book that categorically proved ghosts did not exist, I’d still be very nervous in your typical haunted building situation, you could say it’s the thought of a burglar or something but its definitely the fear of the supernatural.
It most probably is something to do with the brain and the films and programmes I watch are ingrained in my mind but I must admit if im being honest, I am so adamant they don’t exist to overcome they fear that they might!

You knew what I meant

I know what you meant, but there’s no evidence for it so it’s not any more valid a belief than believing that God is a 6’2″ man living on a distant planet called Koleb.

too many wanna be scientists on here

There are lots of actual scientists on here.

too many wanna be scientists on here

hat is up there with being told you are logical and rational – I cannot imagine why anyone would try and use this as an insult.

Lots of folk who have no idea of the tone of their posts when dismissing others too.

Science can’t teach manners it seems.

nor apparently can not “believing”in science but hey lets gloss over that to make a polite dig instead of an impolite one

Impolite people in not liking being told about it SHOKKA! 😀

Science can’t teach manners it seems

Science doesn’t pretend that it does.

What made you think I objected? i simple pointed out, as is the STW way, that both sides were on occasions rude.

It’s extremely difficult (actually, nigh on impossible for me), to not be patronising (bordering on downright rude and dismissive) to adults that should know better spouting absolute nonsense. It’s 2013, and it’s not like the truth isn’t out there for everyone to discover.

We live in a bizarre society/world, if someone tells me the Queen is a shape-shifting lizard I can mock them openly, indeed, they could even be Sectioned under the Metal Health Act. However they talk about ghosts or gods or spirits, and apparently I should respect their views. Well I absolutely don’t. They are ignorant (meaning they don’t have knowledge).

It’s extremely difficult (actually, nigh on impossible for me), to not be patronising (bordering on downright rude and dismissive) to adults that should know better spouting absolute nonsense.

I think this is a bit sad. I hear people spouting rubbish and nonsense quite a lot of the time. I was on a building site most of last week and heard lots of folk spouting some right ol’ shite – to be fair they would mostly have been guys who probably left school at 16 and never spent a day in education for the remainder of their lives to date. I could be rude and dismissive of them and insist on educating them but why bother really?

Of course, for some, it’s easier to be rude and dismissive when they’re banging angrily on a keyboard.

Good to see TUK is having a nice relaxing Sunday.

If you’d have written that post, the nib would’ve snapped clean off

Cool your boots.

Are you being rude and dismissive calling someone a keyboard warrior ?
Is derek?
Still at least you can turn the other cheek in the real world 😛

Are you being rude and dismissive calling someone a keyboard warrior ?

No.

So its a respectful term that conveys respect
Who knew [ certainly not the dictionary anyway]

So its a respectful term that conveys respect

Well, if I’d used the term in the first place…

miketually – Member
You knew what I meant
I know what you meant, but there’s no evidence for it so it’s not any more valid a belief than believing that God is a 6’2″ man living on a distant planet called Koleb.

too many wanna be scientists on here
There are lots of actual scientists on here.

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I never said there was any evidence! 🙄
The thing is your trying to tell me your right? As are all the scientist types on here, you cannot explain what is known with what is unknown.

Junkyard – lazarus
too many wanna be scientists on here
hat is up there with being told you are logical and rational – I cannot imagine why anyone would try and use this as an insult.

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No insults meant, thing is your coming across as more insulting with your patronising.

I never said there was any evidence!
The thing is your trying to tell me your right? As are all the scientist types on here, you cannot explain what is known with what is unknown.

Science admits that there are things that are unknown and then tries to uncover what they are – if we knew everything, research scientists would be out of a job. What science doesn’t do is fill in the gaps with wishful thinking.

Religion and ‘spirituality’ are attempts to fill in the gaps without evidence.

What scientists are doing.

miketually – Member
What scientists are doing.

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So basically, he doesn’t have a clue!
Yeah great example of a scientist. 🙄
But at least he’s being honest which I like.

Sounds like Tucker needs to grow up and get a grip tbh.

So basically, he doesn’t have a clue!
Yeah great example of a scientist.

He is an excellent example of a scientist. He doesn’t know, so he tries to find out rather than just making up something that feels nice and warm and fuzzy and being content with that, or believing in whatever god(s) his parents happened to believe in.

Science isn’t about knowing things, it’s about trying to find things out.

miketually – Member
So basically, he doesn’t have a clue!
Yeah great example of a scientist.
He is an excellent example of a scientist. He doesn’t know, so he tries to find out rather than just making up something that feels nice and warm and fuzzy and being content with that, or believing in whatever god(s) his parents happened to believe in.

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Fair do

No insults meant, thing is your coming across as more insulting with your patronising.

Who knew wanna be scientist was not a dig 😕
PS more insulting contradicts you somewhat as it implies you are also insulting just that I am more so – I think it may also prove the patronising comment 😉

Junkyard – lazarus
No insults meant, thing is your coming across as more insulting with your patronising.

Who knew wanna be scientist was not a dig
PS more insulting contradicts you somewhat as it implies you are also insulting just that I am more so – I think it may also prove the patronising comment
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Oh dear…you win then 🙄

It’s extremely difficult (actually, nigh on impossible for me), to not be patronising (bordering on downright rude and dismissive)

That’s your failing then isn’t it.

Nobody forces you to be rude

you could just ignore it.

But you choose not to.

Trouble with keeping an open mind, is people keep chucking rubbish into it.
Organic, your photo is excellent, I had to zoom in and out several times to really get what I thought I was seeing. Very clever, very subtle, I love it! 😀

allmountainventure – Member
I heard a dead cat once… yeah I know, an effing cat!. The sound came from the table where it died although its body was about 50m away, outside, on the opposite side of the house. My mate heard it too and jumped up saying “what was that”, never did tell him about the cat though, so how did we both hear the same thing? No drink or drugs involved, no sleep deprivation and so on… just a plain old table where a cat died half hour before my mate came round… Would love some one to explain it… preferebly not with some thing equally bizzare, like I was staring down a wormhole.

A previous owner wasn’t called Schrödinger, was he?

deadlydarcy – Member
Are you being rude and dismissive calling someone a keyboard warrior ?
No.

You were perfectly happy using it in a rude and dismissive fashion to a not entirely serious post of mine, a little while back…
Anyway, I must put out some milk and cookies for the little people who live at the bottom of the garden, otherwise they get up to all sorts of mischief.
Night. 😀

You were perfectly happy using it in a rude and dismissive fashion to a not entirely serious post of mine, a little while back…

Yes, you deserved it. You were being a keyboard warrior. As you often are.

Night.

Of course there are ghosts/spirits/whatever you want to call them …

The reasons scientists do not want to know because:

1. It is pointless because dead people are dead. i.e. carbon.
2. Can’t change the past.
3. It is a research into the intangible.
4. Most religions distort the facts. i.e. creationists.
5. Funding – not material research hence can’t convert into cash.
6. Fixated on material future.
7. Too vast an area to research i.e. not narrow enough to be defined.
8. etc …

🙄

The reasons scientists do not want to know because:

There is no evidence?

jam bo – Member

The reasons scientists do not want to know because:

There is no evidence?

Nope. No interest due to above reasons.

Steps in research …

Topic/interest etc -> research -> evidence -> research -> evidence -> research -> … chicken and eggs -> bored -> new topic/interest -> research -> evidence -> research -> evidence -> research -> … chicken and eggs … make money … bored … New topic etc …

I’m going to start my argument strongly by paraphrasing “Thor” 😉

Science to primitive cultures often looks like magic.

Smart, intelligent and in my eyes totally trustworthy people I know have told me about there experiences with ghosts and déjà vu. On ocassion I have heard about things before they happened. Unfortunately they did not include the lottery nos.

I would like to think that I have a strongly scientific mind. I have no problem reconciling these with science. There is still stuff out there we can’t explain. To me that’s awesome! One day we will be able to explain and it’ll be fascinating to find out what the scientific explanation is.

I find it really sad that some people in the name of science dismiss everything they’re uncomfortable about there is still a whole lot we haven’t been able to figure out yet, there is no reason to close your mind.

I think human perception is definitely involved in the ghost stories and déjà vu above. I think one of the ways this could be explained is in M-theory, where time is not linear and there are more dimensions than we perceive. But I only have an amateur knowledge of this and I look forward to some Einstein in the future linking it all together.

Chewkw, how come you know so much about science and how it works?