My 11yo daughters are size 14 and my son is 20 stone – what am I doing wrong?

in fact you may have helped her, that detour across the road was extra calories used. Keep smoking that man and for every fatty that goes out of their way to tell you off, think “yep that’s a quarter of a kitkat I’ve saved you, no need to thank me it’s a public service”

Problem is, they will think those few extra steps has earned them a twix.

…it’s labeled as glucose-fructose syrup here.

Discussed a few pages back, Molgrips.

ha ha ha love it tazzy

imo , main reason so many people are obese is that food and drinks are everywhere .
fill car with petrol = food to buy
Boots the chemist probably sell more meal deal than tablets
high streets are filled with takeaway .
tv is full of food programs .

edit; sorry. that was too much

edit; sorry. that was too much

It was a leap…even for STW 8)

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Ooooh… It doesn’t matter i can have lyposuction…
Not to offend anyone but I am disgusted by fat parents with fat kids. Surely thay have been told by their GP about heath effects for them in later life but the still allow their children to grow up to have the same lifestyle and heath issues that they do. (I used fat beacause overweight implies that there is a point where its ok and Due to the notorious misinterpretability of obese i didn’t use that either) Last year my school took a small group to the top of mt. Toubkal in Morocco. before the trip everyone sat a bleep test. the minimum you had to achive was 7.0 not that hard at our age. But 2 member failed so miserably (2.2 and 1.6) that they were given lessons in diet and physical exersise after school. they are both obviously fat but not to the point where you would expect that kind of result, my point is that there was a sheer unwillingness to exert any effort. The annoying thing is that both have returned to the same weight they were before the trip! Both want to be racing car drivers, a job requiring physical fitness, no? but still in light of this show no inclination towards doing anything about it. I want to be a fighter pilot and I looked up the reccomended fitness for my age and have not just met it but exeeded it to become the most outstanding candidate I can be. <END RANT>

It’s probably been said, (I skipped forward from page 2) but portion size.

People eat too much. Straight up.
Section in that link, mentioning the son went to a fat camp and lost 3 stone. He’s still at least 7 overweight!!

As said since most of the public is overweight, people’s perceptions on what is acceptable change, your “average” 14/15st person is seen as normal. Which is wrong.

Did anyone watch the hairy bikers weight loss thing? When they get on the scales and don’t realise just how big they are!!

Ooh also GP’s, I’m sure plenty of them are overweight too!
I know mine is.

Last year my school took a small group to the top of mt. Toubkal in Morocco

You are far too middle class to be anywhere close to understanding these issues. Red card.

“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”

Also cycle everywhere.

I want to be a fighter pilot and I looked up the reccomended fitness for my age and have not just met it but exeeded it to become the most outstanding candidate I can be

Swoons

*scientology bump*

bump thingy

*superflous bump*

…which would be a great name for a blues singer.

You talked about HFCC but you didn’t mention any foods that actually contain it in the UK.

I still think it’s pretty rare. Yop is the only thing I found that contains it.

You talked about HFCC but you didn’t mention any foods that actually contain it in the UK.

I still think it’s pretty rare. Yop is the only thing I found that contains it.

I don’t think it is that rare in the UK, it’s just called different things (isoglucose, maize syrup, and glucose-fructose syrup).

This article lists some UK foods: http://www.katearnoldnutrition.co.uk/Common_Sense_Nutrition/2010/06/28/june-newsletter-the-campaign-against-corn-syrup/

The bad news for the forum dwellers is that it includes Jaffa Cakes and Hob Nobs! 🙁

which would be a great name for a blues singer.

Jazz saxophonist surely but it would work for sure

Another diet thread gone the same way as normal, can’t even have a discussion about the changing attitudes to body shape in the western world without it descending into all this… again

I agree with philly, there are a few people that post on these threads that are looking for an excuse/in denial about their own weight/exersize/eating habits.

I struggle with long sentences. I’m off to the pub for a pie

*burps*

😀

I’m off to the pub for a pie

really? I’m off to the pub to get utterly **** after the day I’ve had.

Surely the simple answer to the problem is a legal limit to the width of doors to supermarkets and fast food restaurants.

If you can’t fit through the doors it’s time to stop buying food…

I hate threads like this. There are many people in the UK. Its not just education. It can also be a question of IQ levels. Look at many council estates, as with any society those born bright rise up and climb out whilst those with issues, borderline learning difficulties etc steadily slip down at school etc. Alcohol abuse also affects a childs intelligence in the womb etc etc. Yes its cruel saying this but in a society we arent all (100% of pop) able to make cognitive choices. The woman probably cant connect that she is doing wrong.

Wow! People really are trying to say fat people are stupid. 😯

FWIW I work with degree-educated people and many of them are overweight. As am I.
And I know a few people way smarter than me (including medical consultants) that are overweight or obese.

You actively know WHY you are overweight.

As am I

Out of interest, then, why do YOU think you are fat? Are you happy about it? Would you rather not be?

People really are trying to say fat people are stupid.

I expect only obese people are saying this, tbh, it’s stupid 😉

fwiw, one of the largest men I’ve ever seen (proper belly hanging over knee caps when sat down job) was the cardiologist my wife saw when she had an arythmic hearbeat. He seemed quite bright.

FWIW I work with degree-educated people and many of them are overweight. As am I.
And I know a few people way smarter than me (including medical consultants) that are overweight or obese.

Maybe not stupidity, but there has to be at least a level of ignorance in terms of what they are shoving in their mouths.

including medical consultants

This is what I can’t understand, some of them are self-destructive. Its almost as though its programmedinto the human condition to have vice’s.

Solo – Member

And, yes, people should take personal responsibilty for their diet.

Jamie – Member

Maybe not stupidity, but there has to be at least a level of ignorance in terms of what they are shoving in their mouths.
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Obesity experts say parents are struggling with a multitude of problems when it comes to their child’s weight. They range from a lack of education about food, limited cooking skills and limited money to buy healthier food to longer working hours and marketing campaigns for junk food aimed at kids.

But the more sedentary lives children now lead is also creating huge problems. Last week a study suggested that up to 75% of junior school children preferred to stay at home than go to their nearby park.

Watching TV was one of the most popular activities, with 89% saying it was how they liked best to spend their time away from school, according to researchers Lightspeed. In July, scientists from University of Montreal claimed every extra hour of television that a toddler watches each week adds to their waist size by the time they turn 10.

Out of interest, then, why do YOU think you are fat? Are you happy about it? Would you rather not be?

My calories out have been less than my calories in.

I’ve always been “stocky” though. Rugby player rather than swimmer physique 🙂
Recently my weight was creeping up till I got dangerously close to breaking 100kg. I wasn’t happy about that so started doing something about it. I’m now 91.7kg from increasing calories out and decreasing calories in – still overweight though.

Maybe not stupidity, but there has to be at least a level of ignorance in terms of what they are shoving in their mouths.

Nope not even that. My consultant friend loves to cook and makes everything from scratch. She is way better informed about nutrition than most people. She just likes nice food and wine.

I imagine most overweightness came about over parents increasing worry- we have media EVERYWHERE now telling us about risk. Then theres the presses focus on grouping similar stories together to make it seem like its the only issue in the world at that moment..

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Well. I guess I should be grateful it’s a fraction less nonsensical than your usual replies.

Nope not even that. My consultant friend loves to cook and makes everything from scratch. She is way better informed about nutrition than most people. She just likes nice food and wine.

So she is willingly taking being overweight, as collateral damage for a fine eating and drinking experience?

Its very simple really peaple feed theire kids shit from a young age because they were fed shit from a young age…why would kids eat a proper meal when there used to eating complex processed cack….if you give them a choice between a proper meal and some crisps and a bar of chocolate with fizzy drinks..of course there going to eat the rubbish simples! thats why there fat..it winds me up when peaple go on about trying to loose weight etc etc Eat less and move more it really is that easy..:)

Well. I guess I should be grateful it’s a fraction less nonsensical than your usual replies

Nope not even that. My consultant friend loves to cook and makes everything from scratch. She is way better informed about nutrition than most people. She just likes nice food and wine.

Err, looks like you’re cornering the market.
LMAO @ S/G #2

So she is willingly taking being overweight, as collateral damage for a fine eating and drinking experience?

Plenty of people seem to do this no? It’s not unusual…

Plenty of people seem to do this no? It’s not unusual…

True. I guess I just struggle to see into that particular mindset.

Well, I don’t think that people actively think “I’m fat, but hey, I eat well, drink much fine wines, and consume only the best puddings”, but on a sub-conscious level, there’s a lack of willingness to do anything about it.

Could there be a thought process that goes, ‘well, I am already overweight, a bit of cake won’t hurt’…so the whole thing becomes self perpetuating?

Could there be a thought process that goes, ‘well, I am already overweight, a bit of cake won’t hurt’…so the whole thing becomes self perpetuating?

Interesting one…

I have a friend (no, really) who I watched go from quite overweight, to morbidly obese…we’re talking around 6’0″ and well over 20 stone. He was a prop forward before it all, so quite a big lad anyway. Always on the beers with the rugby team, eating the way that you do in your teens and twenties. Then bang, car crash, ankle that had to be pieced back together with a lot of metal and no more rugby. The beers and eating continued and the weight piled on. I think that with his frame, it was easy to stick a few stone on there without noticing too much. There obviously came a turning point when he thought, “ah **** it, I look like shit now, what’s the harm in a few more cakes…”

This is the point I reckon it would be most interesting to identify with overweight people.

Everytime I see a morbidly obese person, I think the same thing to myself: “At what point did you look in the mirror and just stop caring?”