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  • TheSouthernYeti
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    I was born in 1979.

    ernie_lynch
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    luked2 – Member

    Rickets has been on the increase for many years in Britain now.

    That’s lack of vitamin D, which can be fixed with sunshine.

    Too many people sat indoors furiously posting to STW…

    So it can be “fixed with sunshine” ……and ?? ….. what’s your point ?

    Did I say that couldn’t be ?

    Maybe you should stop and think before sitting there furiously posting to STW ….. eh ?

    Spongebob
    Free Member

    ha! she hads bigger balls than you lot of nancies, thats for sure!

    +1

    Socialism = a truly chronic British disease!

    Lefties = miserable, self serving, shortsighted, financially irresonsible niaive fools!

    “Thatch” is a legend!

    Greatest PM of our generation, by a country mile!

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Whatever you think look at our GDP growth from 79′ to now and compare to other countries

    fifth in the world in 79 and fifth in 2006 ?
    I cannot be bothered working out the percentage increase but we were overtaken by two countries in that period and I assume others grew faster as well – brazil india etc.

    cinnamon_girl
    Full Member

    I sure ain’t no feminist but you will never ever see a Prime Minister with bigger balls than Margaret Thatcher.

    Standing up to the unions was probably most important thing she did

    + 1.

    splashdown
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    crikey – Member
    You realise that when she does we will have to pay for a 24 hour, 365 days a year guard for her tomb?

    For two reasons, one, to protect it from dancers and streams of wee, and two, to make sure she stays in it…
    😆

    Spongebob
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    cinnamon_girl – Member

    Just wondering who remembers the strikes, 3 day week, rubbish collections building up etc etc.

    Yeah cinnamony, they are either too young, or too wrapped up in their socialist ideology!

    cinnamon_girl
    Full Member

    Spongebob – yeah, was just trying to flush ’em out. 😀

    My memory may not be what it was but, c’mon on, there’s a load of tosh being spouted on this thread.

    The title of this thread is quite nasty.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    Whatever you think look at our GDP growth from 79′ to now and compare to other countries

    I did what you suggested and found this :

    It would appear that GDP growth increased at a lower rate compared to similar countries under Thatcher.

    GDP growth in the UK increased at a higher rate compared to other countries after Thatcher was gone.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    My memory may not be what it was

    Is that why you think the 3 day week was in 1979 ?

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    The numbers don’t lie ernie. Th thatcher years were an economic disaster. Not only was growth lower here than in other countries and our recession deeper and longer but we had north sea oli. What a waste that was. The oil should have meant we had huge money to spend on infrastructure. Instead it was wasted paying benefits for people who could have been working

    Remember – tory governments give you higher inflation, lower growth and higher unemployment tha labour ones. this conmdem alliance is going to do the same. Todays spending cuts = a million more unemployed.

    Junkyard
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    looks to me like it only increased once labour came topower – perhaps the miminimum wage that did it ?
    C-g I dont think anyone is trying to claim that everything she did was wrong or evil.YShe was a very divisive figure and decimated large swathes of the country that still bear the scars today.I was 9 when she cam to power and do remember the strikes of 83 onwards.
    Thatcher was no feminist either hardly any females in the cabinet and none at the end iirc. Respecting her for being a strong woman is like a man respecting Stalin because he was strong or Mussolini for getting the trains to run on time. It in no way ofsets the damage she/they did.One nation disraelli Tories [wets she called them] are ok [relatively]IMHO rabid right wingers are just heartless lovers of money and their self interest rather than the common good.

    edhornby
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    Thatcher put a lot of people out of work, and replaced these jobs with…. er nothing, no suitable replacement industries to provide growth and long term investment

    Labour put all these people back into public service jobs (not the best idea but better than the dole)

    the tories are now ditching all these public service jobs and replacing them with…. er…..

    can anyone see a pattern forming ???? Not only did Thatcher make some huge mistakes but the idiots who are now in charge are looking to her politics as some kind of answer

    grumm
    Free Member

    I sure ain’t no feminist but you will never ever see a Prime Minister with bigger balls than Margaret Thatcher.

    Great.

    luked2
    Free Member

    So it can be “fixed with sunshine” ……and ?? ….. what’s your point ?

    Did I say that couldn’t be ?

    Maybe you should stop and think before sitting there furiously posting to STW ….. eh ?

    Here you go Ernie! Just for you!

    “Computer-obsessed children who spend too long indoors and over-anxious parents who slap on excessive sunscreen are contributing to a sharp rise in cases of the bone disease rickets, doctors are warning.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/21/rickets-increase-milk-supplement

    Spongebob
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    The title of this thread is quite nasty.

    EXACTLY!

    Seems like graciousness and dignity eludes these socialists!

    Wishing someone dead is pure miserable nasty hatred. Shame on the OP and it’s supporters! (the description “it” is befitting of such low life).

    This is a classic case of people showing their true colours!

    This attitude is totally contradictory to the values of socialism and is indicative of the control freak tendencies of your typical lefty!

    I wouldn’t wish death on my worst enemy, let alone a politician.

    Sad feckers!

    mikertroid
    Free Member

    t would appear that GDP growth increased at a lower rate compared to similar countries under Thatcher.

    GDP growth in the UK increased at a higher rate compared to other countries after Thatcher was gone.

    Ernie, if UK is the blue line, it’s rate of growth looks higher in the Thatcher years……

    Unless the Y axis is actually Rate of Growth itself of course!!

    As far as dancing on graves etc, I’ve never heard of something so ridiculous, especially to someone who benefited the nation as a whole. I wouldn’t even consider dancing on Tony’s or Gordon’s grave, despite them being the worst combo in living memory.

    ernie_lynch
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    Here you go Ernie! Just for you!

    Thank you luked2, I notice your link suggests a solution for rickets via milk.

    Here’s another :

    Drink Your Milk! (The Return of Rickets & Other Vitamin D Deficiencies)

    iDave
    Free Member

    ernie, maybe take italy out of the graph? it’s one of the PIGS countries, not comparable to the UK in terms of industry

    TandemJeremy
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    cinnamon_girl – Member

    Just curious like … who on here was an adult when Margaret Thatcher came to power?

    Me I was 18. I remember the summer of 77. I went to the job centre and got a job – they had loads to offer. |I went to a local hospital to ask for a job. Welcomed with open arms.

    in 1980 I tried again. No jobs in the job centre and the hospital had a waiting list of hundreds for jobs

    I remember her and the damage she did. I remember watching vast swathes of the country loosing Their jobs. I remember HER flogging the family silver for pennies to pay the milkman, I remember double digit inflation along with falling growth.

    She was an utter disaster as a pm Destroying entire industries for political dogma, doing huge damage to the social fabric of the country and worst of all wasting the north sea oil money on paying benefits and giving tax cuts to the rich.

    gordimhor
    Full Member

    I wouldn’t wish death on my worst enemy, let alone a politician :-)spongebob your going all touchy feely and sensitive on us

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Spongebob It adds more joy to know you will be upset on that day 😉

    ernie_lynch
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    Spongebob – Member

    The title of this thread is quite nasty.

    EXACTLY!

    Seems like graciousness and dignity eludes these socialists!

    I think you’ll find that Aracer isn’t a socialist. In fact he has claimed on here, that he voted Tory in the May general election. I also believe that he might be a bit of a fan of Mrs T.

    I took the thread title as being tongue-in-cheek.

    Obviously not all Tories share the same sense of humour.

    Rio
    Full Member

    Just wondering who remembers the strikes, 3 day week, rubbish collections building up etc etc.

    3 day week was during the Heath government and the first miners strike. The rest was the winter of discontent in 1979 during the Callaghan government, and was a particularly dire time – that was when the rubbish collected in the streets and the morgues filled up.

    pullfaces
    Free Member

    After the Vietnam war the communist Khmer Rouge lifted there heads up and looked around. They were penniless and in a country bombed to sh1t. What they saw was something worse. Cambodia. The people there had been subjected to the tyranny of a marxist dictator and were being murdered in their millions.
    So they did what no other civilised wealthy nation could be bothered to do. They went into Cambodia, defeated Pol Pot and his troops driving them back into impenetrable jungle.
    How did Mrs Thatcher react to this defeat of the most evil man alive during my life time?
    Well, she assisted her pal Ronnie Reagan in fighting the commies. They funded and gave arms to Pol Pot.
    She gave arms to Pol Pot.
    Mrs Thatcher gave arms to Pol Pot.
    Luckily, mainly for the survivors of Pol Pot’s purges it was to no avail. The communist Vietnamese kept him in place then once everything was under control, left.

    Now, my grandfather and my great grandfather were miners in South Yorkshire and Derbyshire and I grew up through the devastation caused but there are some things that should not be forgotten and forgiven.
    Perhaps some of the Thatcher apologists on here can explain her rational here to me.

    But when she does finally pass away of natural causes after a long life, I shall pause, take time out to remember 4 million that didn’t.
    Then I shall party like a b@st@rd.
    All are welcome to join me, those who normally occupy the expensive seats can even come along and rattle your jewellery in time to the music and dancing. I will even buy a drink in the name of inclusion.

    iDave
    Free Member

    did she also help Regan/CIA flood South Central/Compton with crack to help fund the Contras? or did I dream that?

    Junkyard
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    she also supported racist SA apartheid – opposed sanctions on them- vetoing UN resolutions- and despised the ANC as terrorists and marxists*.She hated nelson Mandela yes the noble peace prize winning man whilst befriending pinochet and polpot

    * cameron apologised for this and called it wrong iirc when he met Mandela..just googled it this led her then press secretary Bernard ingham to question whether cameron was actually a conservative
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-apologises-for-thatcher-apartheid-policies-413569.html

    ernie_lynch
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    the winter of discontent in 1979 during the Callaghan government, and was a particularly dire time – that was when the rubbish collected in the streets

    The longest any refuse collectors went on strike was 4 weeks. Many councils now collect every 2 weeks, so 4 weeks is hardly the end of the world. It didn’t cause me any hardship or any inconvenience whatsoever. Government policy 1979-97 certainly did. And the strike was fully resolved long before the general election – so it had nothing to do with Thatcher.

    And the refuse collectors had a perfectly legitimate case for strike action btw, not that anybody seems to be bothered by that.

    aracer
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    I took the thread title as being tongue-in-cheek.

    Well done ernie – I expected you to get it. If anything I’m happy to admit it was a bit of a troll – a surprisingly successful one as it turns out 😈

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    did she also help Regan/CIA flood South Central/Compton with crack to help fund the Contras? or did I dream that?

    I think the Yanks funded the Contras on their own – with money they made from selling arms to Iran.
    During the Iraq-Iran war the Yanks were supplying arms to both sides.

    Don’t think Thatcher needed to be involved, although I’m sure she would have approved – she was after all best buddies with Reagan.

    iDave
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    congress blocked the funding, initially from arms sales to Iran, in 82, so the CIA allowed the contras to flood south central with crack as their little fund raiser, using crips and bloods as distributors

    i bet it was maggie who suggested it. i recall reading somewhere about her support for it at the very least

    Rio
    Full Member

    Many councils now collect every 2 weeks, so 4 weeks is hardly the end of the world.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    Rio that looks like a pile of rubbish and a woman walking past carrying an umbrella to me.

    What does it look like to you ………….the end of the world ?

    Rio
    Full Member

    No, it’s a picture of the rubbish during the binmens strike. If that’s what the 2 weekly collections look like round your way then I guess the cuts have come early for you.

    Edit: having just watched The Road on DVD I think maybe it does look a bit like the end of the world.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    We still have weekly collections. That big pile of rubbish just looks like there’s been a strike on. And so there was – for 4 weeks. It wasn’t a permanent thing.

    But what’s you point……you’re challenging my claim that it wasn’t the end of the world ?

    Rio
    Full Member

    My original point was that the winter of discontent was a particularly grim time, which you seem to be challenging. Remember, it was this mess that caused the Callaghan minority government to collapse and led to the subsequent conservative victory.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    I don’t think a 4 week strike by bin men constitutes a “particularly grim time”.

    I think its fair to say that the Thatcher created recessions and over 3 million unemployed was a particularly grim time though.

    Last year Leeds refuse collectors were on strike for 3 months……..how would describe that – worst that living homeless in war-torn Baghdad ?

    Rio
    Full Member

    The bin men’s strikes were just one visible part of the winter of discontent as I’m sure you know.

    If it weren’t time for me to go to bed I’d stay and argue a bit more but life is too short.

    Zulu-Eleven
    Free Member

    Apparently the Royal Navy have been put on alert and are practicing for her funeral at the moment.

    Dance away motherfcukers!

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    The bin men’s strikes were just one visible part of the winter of discontent as I’m sure you know.

    Yeah, for a period of a few weeks there were quite a lot of people taking industrial action. But it was all completely resolved before Thatcher became PM – she had nothing to do with resolving the dispute. And none of it caused anyone I know any hardship.

    However within a couple of years Thatcher had created an extra 1.5 million unemployed people. That caused real hardship…. and it was not for just a few weeks. She scrapped all incomes policies and reduced pay (and strikes) by creating the highest levels of unemployment since the Great Depression.

    Funny how 1.5 million on strike would have been considered an absolutely intolerable disaster for Britain, but an extra 1.5 million people sitting at home doing bugger all was absolutely fine and tickety-boo.

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