F1 2021 – spoilers here

I think there’ll be appeals – Merc will be asking why half the field was allowed to unlap rather than all of them or none of them.

Not forgetting the 4-5 seconds in one lap that Sergio Perez held up Hamilton in one single lap earlier in the race, acting as a purposeful mobile chicane.

It would have been shit to watch, a total anti-climax, but the only fair ways to end that race were either to finish under the safety car, or to allow all of the lapped cars to unlap themselves.

Not a Lewis fan here, but honestly he was robbed of that race!

This whole year has been about spectacle, it was never about sport.

Not forgetting the 4-5 seconds in one lap that Sergio Perez held up Hamilton in one single lap earlier in the race, acting as a purposeful mobile chicane.

That was fair though, and probably the most exciting action seen at the front of a race all year while still keeping it fair. A shame Botas was incapable of helping out in a similar fashion at any point of the year.

Chance for LH to show what a real champion looks like.

Very much this. Was waiting for Max to acknowledge his opponent and wasn’t expecting it; sure enough he didn’t.

Lewis is still class! where is toto?

New Race Director needed.

I get the feeling that the next series of Drive to Survive is now more of a priority than what takes place on the track

Lewis being very magnanimous and calm under the circumstances

Them two jokers at the back pissing around and then Latifi binning it. FFS. And Masi folding like a cheap suit after RB whinged. Unbelievable

New Race Director needed.

I suspect he has done exactly what liberty media told him to do.

Michael Masi – “We went car racing”. WTF?

I can’t believe how angry that’s made me – it’s the unfairness of it.

Yeah, Lewis showing his class….Max showing he has none.

Marsis answer to Toto..blimey! He needs to go.

where is toto?

I think Masi’s asking the same, and then trying to be somewhere different…..

Is Lewis going to do a podium stomp off this week?

Same here – absolute fix.

At least in NASCAR it’s part of ‘the show’. This is meant to be the pinnacle of motorsport.

I can’t believe how angry that’s made me – it’s the unfairness of it.

Absolute sham. I hope Mercedes appeal but cant imagine anything will be changed

Is Lewis going to do a podium stomp off this week?

Unlikely – he already showed in that post-race interview that he has far more class than Max.

I’m not a devout Lewis fanboi, but he was utterly robbed. The first full race I’ve watched in years, but if that’s how the FIA apply whatever rulebook they decide to use that day, I’ll not bother watching again. Ridiculous.

Hamilton has been weighed and he’s been measured and he’s been found wanting. Lewis the loser

Absolute farce, restart of the race should be based on time difference when it was stopped – easy enough to sort!

That’s me finished with F1.

WWE with cars.

@burner

you’ve also been on the scales, and the answer isn’t good.

F1 is no longer about the racing, it’s all about the show. Total shit show and if I was Merc I would be fuming. So much so I’d threaten to withdraw s they were totally robbed.

Well Max didn’t win that race on merit. The championship? Well he raced clean so I guess so. If roles were reversed Lewis would have taken it…

I don’t think masi has the mental capacity needed to make the right decisions at pace needed during a race.

Hamilton has been weighed and he’s been measured and he’s been found wanting. Lewis the loser

Obvious troll aside it’s got to be a tough one to swallow because he can rightly look back and say that actually as a driver he did absolutely everything right and had that race fairly won.

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Hamilton has been weighed and he’s been measured and he’s been found wanting. Lewis the loser

LOL Lost his way to 7 championships you absolute tool

Well Max didn’t win that race in merit. The championship? Well he raced clean so

I’m not entirely sure (a) which championship you were watching or (b) what you’re implying.

still I think the driver that has won the most races should ultimately win the championship. Great drivers ahead of the rest by a country mile. Also amazing support drive by Perez but where was Bottas?

Bottas should have stuck it in the wall

I don’t think masi has the mental capacity needed to make the right decisions at pace needed during a race.

He’s certainly got a long way to go to fill Charlie’s boots.

Jos Verstappen’s response just now…

“during the race, I walked away from the pit cos I didn’t believe he (Max) could do it any more, but I came back for that last lap”

Sums the whole debacle up for me! 🤦🏻

I’m not entirely sure (a) which championship you were watching or (b) what you’re implying.

My view before the race was whichever one of them won today, so long as it was a clean race, deserved the WC.

Max didn’t do anything wrong at the end. He just took what was handed to him so I am sticking with my thoughts.

I’m a massive massive Lewis fan BTW and would have loved to see him win 8 and yes he was robbed today but not by Max personally.

Absolute farce, restart of the race should be based on time difference when it was stopped – easy enough to sort!

That has never been the rule. There is a strong argument IMO for not allowing tyre changes under the safety car unless you have a puncture. But over the past decade or so f1 has become increasingly dependant on artificial “plot devices” to increase the entertainment value rather than just sorting out a ruleset that allows better closer racing, so I wouldn’t expect any rule changes that support sporting merit. This years nasty spectacle has just been the culmination of that.

With 20/20 hindsight Merc could’ve pitted Lewis under the last SC – if Max stayed out for track position that last lap would’ve been reversed, but I’m not 100% sure they’d both have finished.

In other news, Tsunoda was fourth!

4.12.12 If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message “LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE” has been sent to all teams via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.
This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed.
Having overtaken the cars on the lead lap and the safety car these cars should then proceed around the track at an appropriate speed, without overtaking, and make every effort to take up position at the back of the line of cars behind the safety car. Whilst they are overtaking, and in order to ensure this may be carried out safely, the cars on the lead lap must always stay on the racing line unless deviating from it is unavoidable. Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap.
If the clerk of the course considers track conditions are unsuitable for overtaking the message “OVERTAKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED” will be sent to all teams via the official messaging system.

None of that was followed correctly. Mercedes have multiple avenues to appeal this result.

That’s me done with F1 now.

The obvious thing to do is red flag, let everyone change tyres, re-grid then have 3 laps of racing. Still a massively improved situation for Verstappen.

Unfortunately…

I don’t think masi has the mental capacity needed to make the right decisions at pace needed during a race.

@burner, I’m not a Lewis Fan what so ever, but he clearly was the better driver in this race.
I’m glad Max won, but to in anyway criticise Lewis is plain idiocy.
To me, if the general rules are always the same, let lapped racers through, then the right decision was ultimately made. Max won it on strategy.
I do think Lewis should have pitted, surely he would still have been 2nd when the lapped drivers came through?

Amazing how Jos Verstappen has been sport-washed by his son’s efforts, I really don’t want to hear the opinions of a violent misogynist on TV.

Ultimately I’m happy for Max, he’s been relentless, and it was cool to see him smiling for a change. I think whatever decision Masi would’ve made there he was going to upset some-one! I do think both Mercedes and RB can complain about inconsistent decisions though. The FIA need to sort that out.

I do think Lewis should have pitted, surely he would still have been 2nd when the lapped drivers came through?

In retrospect, better than what he ended up with. But the risk is that the race then ends under the SC, or the lapped cars do not pass, and he’s just handed over the position, the race and the championship.