Anyone can see that it’s entirely unambiguous. And if you disagree with that then you’ve contradicted your own argument.

Anyone. Any… one. So you mean some, but not all people?

Well, it’s up to you to interpret it; the point is merely that anyone who sides with Red Bull’s interpretation of “any” isn’t free to disagree with it 🙂

Anyway… looks like Aston Martin haven’t retained any of their staff this year:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.aston-martin-announce-departure-of-team-principal-otmar-szafnauer.7orq4yhy6bKbh4hEgAb36v.html

😉

If they wanted the race to end without a safety car then they could have pulled the safety car in with all the lapped cars still in place. But, that way Verstappen wouldn’t have won, so clearly no point in doing that

But, that way Verstappen wouldn’t have won, so clearly no point in doing that

Depends what you think the objective was.
I still think they were trying to engineer an exciting close final lap battle and add drama right at the end, rather than contrive a win for MV, that just happened as a result of what they were trying to do.
I still don’t think what happened was right, but I’m of the opinion that it was done for the show, rather than for MV per se.

I still don’t think what happened was right, but I’m of the opinion that it was done for the show, rather than for MV per se.

I really want to believe that but I’m struggling. It was very very obvious Lewis would have been a sitting duck with Max on new tyres – there was only ever going to be one outcome from the decisions they made and if they didn’t see it coming they really shouldn’t be in charge just as much as if they had engineered it for Max to win on purpose.

I’ve been watching F1 for 40 years and I’m struggling with wanting to watch it ever again because of what happened. It despicable. The only reason I have now to watch it is to hopefully see MV being royally thrashed by Lewis preferably, but George Russell can do it as well. I just really want Lewis to get his 8 titles.

The rules weren’t so much as bent as thrown entirely in the bin to engineer a situation where only Max could reasonably win, it’s pretty clear what they were up to tbh

Masi isn’t a media genius, he wouldn’t have been thinking about the news, the media, a new champion, more fans, etc, etc, he probably was just thinking about what RB said to him, “one lap of racing” …he’s a racer, that would’ve almost certainly gotten through and that’s what he did. Not to gift MV the championship, but to give MORE racing and let the title be decided on the track. The trouble is, it needed more thought, he needed to consider the time required to do it properly, the effect his delay had caused to Mercedes in that they now couldn’t pit, etc, but he didn’t do any of that, it was too late…he made his decision for “one racing lap”. And Redbull got everything they wanted. A very easy win at a race where even 3 laps from the end, it looked like they’d lost the championship.

I don’t think it was planned, it was just a massive, heartfelt reaction to the situation in which he (Masi) then did everything to get “one racing lap”. Redbull won because of that extremely well phrased and delivered message.

We should probably close this thread!! Time to move on! 🤣🤣🏎💨💨

Re: this any/all/some ambiguity….

The FIA is a French organization. Does anyone know whether the regs are drafted in French? And if so, is the ambiguity still there in its original language?

Or are we getting our knickers in a twist over a poor translation?

We should probably close this thread!! Time to move on!

We should at least have a sin bin for anyone who brings it up again once the 2022 thread starts 😀

Or are we getting our knickers in a twist over a poor translation?

I believe translations are available but the English version is explicitly deemed to be the definitive one.

We should probably close this thread!! Time to move on! 🤣🤣🏎💨💨

If we closed this thread I’m pretty sure the bitterness will spill over to the 2022 one, so maybe better if it’s contained in here lol

https://twitter.com/EngineMode11/status/1478644884961648642

Genius!

Brilliant 🤣

My God, people are still arguing about Abu Dhabi.

It's unreasonable to expect accredited F1 journalists to jump up and down and call the FIA a bunch of turnips

Many of them said it was wrong. I don't expect them to risk their jobs by demanding heads roll

Not actively defending the obviously wrong thing would be nice though..

— Spanners (@SpannersReady) January 10, 2022

Mehhhhhhhh

I’ve started on the cheese and biscuits

I wondered if Masi had a sideline managing immigration rules for the Australian open…

Hobnobs for me! 🙂