Doorstep God Botherers.

Mcboo, if this was a conversation on your doorstep, which as already stated I don’t really do, then this is probably the point that we would agree to dissagree and part ways (in a friendly manner I’d hope) You obviously don’t like many of the things I believe; all I can say is that I don’t have a problem with God wanting an account of the wrong I do, been as I believe He blessed me with the life I have and He has made a way for me to be forgiven, which cost Him dearly.

Oi, PhilAmon: what’s this sinning thing then?

Am I allowed to do rumpy-pumpy or not! 🙂

I’ve got to let MrAdamW know whether its off the menu! 😀

Not read all this but the Victorians went to a lot of effort to convert Africa to Christianity. Now they have come to convert us!
Pay back is a bitch.

PhilAmon > are you deliberately ignoring me?

What are your views on homosexuality?

Fair enough Philip

Seriously, you’re as bad as them. Just because he’s gay, that doesn’t mean it’s all AdamW’s fault.

Everything is Adam Werritys fault

Erm, before I get inundated, this AdamW’s surname is WAINWRIGHT. And NOT WERRITY!

Heh. Sorry , couldn’t resist a cheap joke about Mr Fox’s best friend 🙂

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edited for massive copy /paste phone posting error!

Adam, as said above, my approach to you would be the same as anyone else, the bible says sex outside of marriage is wrong too, but I wouldn’t speak to an unmarried male/female couple about that specific sin, because being a Christian isn’t about cutting out certain behavior, its about confessing you’re a sinner and being forgiven, born again, with a new nature, and the help of God in your life to live differently.

Sorry guys bare with me, there is only one of me and many of you! plus I’ve got work to do!

Phil – I’m really not getting all this being born again with a better nature business. I believe in God, and was born and raised as a Catholic, but I do struggle with the sin thing. My oldest son, who I love to bits and am immensely proud of, is gay. Now I’m sorry, but I (personally) dont see that as a sin, despite what the bloke in the daft hat says. What happened to live and let live, and generally treating one another in a smashing way? Just a thought, like.

And if you do cheat on your wife, or steal, or beat your kids – live with it.

There isnt any way of offloading it, so take personal responsibility for your actions. We’re all individuals remember.

Adam, as said above, my approach to you would be the same as anyone else, the bible says sex outside of marriage is wrong too, but I wouldn’t speak to an unmarried male/female couple about that specific sin, because being a Christian isn’t about cutting out certain behavior, its about confessing you’re a sinner and being forgiven, born again, with a new nature, and the help of God in your life to live differently.

So being gay is wrong? Adam must confess, apologise to god and become straight?

You wonder why people hate religion?

the bible says sex outside of marriage is wrong too, but I wouldn’t speak to an unmarried male/female couple about that specific sin,

But you would speak to a male/male couple about it, or a female/female one?

Sex outside of marriage isn’t wrong

Sex (outside of marriage) is really good

Although it can also be a bit wrong – depends on what you have been drinking and what sort of mood you are in 🙂

We’re all individuals

I’m not

I like sex a lot more than I used to like going to church.

I could comment on that mcboo, but as a catholic, I’m already on extremely thin ice 😉

Friend of mine gets rudely awakened before 12 noon on a Sunday, some time ago now, by a couple of Jehovah’s Witness who open the conversation with,
‘Do you know how the world was created’
He basically gave them Stephen Hawkins ‘ A brief history of time’ ad verbatim and then asked them if they had any questions (which they hadn’t) and he then went back to dealing with a stinking hangover………
I don’t think they’ve called since, do you go on a beyond help list?

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

wombat – Member

We’re all individuals

I’m not

careful mitch, its dangerous to have sex on thin ice, your bottom might get stuck like harry’s tongue in dumb and dumber, or the ice might break and, well i dont know if you’ve ever seen an episode of 999-lifesavers but it doesnt look fun 😯

Mmmm creaky…

like your old man hips 😛

Uh-oh. Better get a chastity belt or something. Or a mask of CallMeDave; that’ll stop things stone dead. 😀

But seriously, I wish religious people would stop judging me. They wonder why I get annoyed when they’re basically telling me (in such a nice way note, Elf) that I am evil and will burn forever for loving someone. And they are knocking on *my* door! In my book that makes them very nasty people indeed, regardless of whether they have faux ‘good intentions’.

Surely there is absolutely nothing wrong with two people of the same sex who love each other? Wasn’t the whole point of that Jesus chap about love and not hate? I bet if he turned up he would live in some form of lesbian commune or something and not in a nice middle-class family. 😀

This isn’t a polite disagreement – people have had to lose their lives over stuff like this, just so people like me can be treated as a human being, and usually the ones who want to hurt me are religious.

Although you cant see me phil, I’m waving my fist at the screen now. Well, I’m waving something at the screen.

I like sex a lot more than I used to like going to church.

Frankie Boyle-esque joke fighting not to escape…

I bet if he turned up he would live in some form of lesbian commune

Ah, the old ‘gay best friend’ trick eh?

I’ve seen too many crap american comedy shows to not spot that one 🙂

Friend of mine gets rudely awakened

Last ones that came here dragged me out of bed at sparrowfart on Sunday. Opened the door bleary-eyed to be met by three besatchelled JWs.

“Good morning sir,” they opened, “tell me, what do you think is the cause of the problems in the world today?”

“Lack of sleep on a Sunday morning.” *click*

Given that I was half-asleep, I was quite proud of that one.

Ah, the old ‘gay best friend’ trick eh?

Dagnabit, caught again! 😀

Wasn’t the whole point of that Jesus chap about love and not hate?

We should all love one another (within clearly defined parameters).

Don’t you fall foul of the Commandments there, Adam, for coveting thy neighbour’s ass? (-:

Hasn’t happened to me yet, but I doubt I’d want to bother. I’d probably just say “There is no god and when you’re dead, you’re dead”. And shut the door.

Don’t you fall foul of the Commandments there, Adam, for coveting thy neighbour’s ass? (-:

Depends on how cute it is. Current infatuations include Ryan Reynolds as he’s as fit as a very fit thing in Green Lantern and Ben Browder 😛 Someone like Bernard Manning, (if he were alive I hasten to add) would not be flavour of the month.

Don’t you fall foul of the Commandments there, Adam, for coveting thy neighbour’s ass? (-:

does his neighbour have a particularly fine looking donkey?

No but he has bum cheeks of tungsten and NO piles. At all.

Children should be encouraged to think for themselves, enquire, ask questions, have fun and learn. They dont need this hocus pocus telling them that from day one they are guilty sinners who will be punished.

When I was young my parents sent me to what they thought was a Church of England after school club. It was actually run by an evangelist church, and my dad was furious when he found out. I used to cry myself to sleep when I was very young, terrified that I was going to hell because I loved my family more than I loved their god and Jesus.

I eventually came to the conclusion when I was about nine or ten that according to the Bible their god was pretty unpleasant and it all seemed a bit far-fetched. Got told off by a few teachers for saying that I didn’t believe in god, and refusing to pray in assembly.

Still, if they ever come to the door, I’m polite in sending them on their way. Politeness costs nowt – they’re not going to change their mind, and they’re not going to change mine.

Surely there is absolutely nothing wrong with two people of the same sex who love each other? Wasn’t the whole point of that Jesus chap about love and not hate? I bet if he turned up he would live in some form of lesbian commune or something and not in a nice middle-class family.

“Still, if they ever come to the door, I’m polite in sending them on their way. Politeness costs nowt – they’re not going to change their mind, and they’re not going to change mine.”
i wouldnt be too sure about that, im an ex jw, and i changed my mind after my best friend from school (not a jw) told me what he really thought of the cult i had been brainwashed by.
it was a real eye opener for me, i had no idea most people felt like that about jws.

Have we frightened off our evangelist?

Quote: PhilAmon – Member

“Sorry guys bare with me”

Interesting……

My standard response is to open the door with a smile “Sorry, I don’t transact any business on the doorstep” and close the door.

I do not get visits from JW’s – the local head honcho lives at the bottom of the Close, I have asked him to ensure we don’t get visited – and we don’t anymore.

Can we hurry up with the rumpy pumpy question, I’m pretty certain gf is going to want some hot bedroom action this weekend, and I need to know where I stand.

Never had the god squad come round to my house, but I’ve got some questions to ask now. 😀

I think you might be ok, Emsz, depending on denomination:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_homosexuality

Let us know if you’re struck by lightning or something.

Knock knock

Me: I’m on your list

Them: Look of surprise…’oh I’m sorry to have bothered you, our mistake’

Me: Byebye now 🙂

I don’t like being rude, so when they realise I’ve asked to be put on their ‘do not pester’ list, they apologise to me and leave pronto 🙂 Except the last guy, who said they just like to double check that you haven’t been enlightened in the meantime, but I was polite to him anyway as he works at the sorting office delivery counter and recognises me so I don’t need to show ID to collect parcels 🙂