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  • GrahamS
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    So explosive devices sent to Obama, Hilary Clinton, CNN and George Soros.

    I wonder whose conspiracy-laden narratives could be causing people to do such things…?

    A decent leader would probably say something about how this is an attack on democracy and that violence is not the right way to oppose his enemies. Reckon Trump will even mention it?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45969100

    karn
    Free Member

    Also interesting to see tRumps take on Khashoggi;s murder.

    ‘very bad original concept’

    ‘carried out poorly’

    ‘worst cover up in history’

    presumably when he starts killing his opponents, he’ll be doing in a more professional manner…..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45968185

    GrahamS
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    I liked Trump’s clarification that although Saudi Arabia is a “great ally” and big investors in the US, he does still think that dismembering someone alive is “something that is very bad”… if it happened… but y’know the arms deal is worth billions… so… “we’re just hurting ourselves”

    scaredypants
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    ‘very bad original concept’

    ‘carried out poorly’

    ‘worst cover up in history’

    He did also say it was “very poor execution” – not sure if he’s seen the video

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    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    ‘very bad original concept’

    ‘carried out poorly’

    ‘worst cover up in history’

    all you need to add to then end of that is ‘…Darling’ and it could be Craig Revel Horwood speaking.

    grahamh
    Free Member

    Tweeting fro his unsecured phone

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1055458320390217728

    The man is about as self aware as a dog licking it’s own arse in public.

    CountZero
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    “very poor execution”

    As in ‘very poorly carried out’?

    al jazeera did a very good opinion piece about dTrump’s Amerika:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/fake-news-racism-bombs-fear-loathing-trump-america-181025082812562.html

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    A dangerous, dangerous guy.

    Unfortunately his legacy will live on in politics and the world, long after he has left office.

    mikewsmith
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    I see he is sending the army to make it look like immigration is a massive threat again. Panic at the polls.

    torsoinalake
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    Well there’s a surprise

    CountZero
    Full Member

    According to conservatives and Republican supporters this is all fake, a deep-state project set up by Democrats to gain them sympathy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/27/ann-coulter-didnt-ditch-conspiracy-theories-after-bombers-arrest-most-false-flaggers-didnt/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dc4e00035256

    mikewsmith
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    For the Trump fans it’s impossible that one of their own would logically follow the calls for violence and retribution against the left, so the improbable must be the truth.

    They already know there is a deep state controlling things because there is, how else did trump win….

    Scapegoat
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    And so a nutter shoots people dead in a family ceremony whilst shouting antisemitic slogans, and the Donald tells us it’s their fault because they didn’t have an armed guard on the door?

    mikewsmith
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    Yep…. nothing at all about how the guy got the guns in the first place.

    Must be some mid terms can’t jeopardise those votes

    CountZero
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    maccruiskeen
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    He didn’t say which September 11th he was referring to. The NYSE was open for business as usual on sept 12th 2000 🙂

    CountZero
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    Former security chiefs take on parallels between Trumps rhetoric and that of ISIS/Daesh – not identical, but designed to attract a certain mindset;

    Former spy chiefs see a disturbing parallel between Trump and ISIS: ‘We have four years to stop him’

    CountZero
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    America is still fighting its Civil War, with a Confederate President in charge:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/04/the-american-civil-war-didnt-end-and-trump-is-a-confederate-president

    CountZero
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    Trump in more made up fake news shock horror!

    Donald Trump Makes Up Poll Touting African-American Support

    tomhoward
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    It’s like he wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and thinks ‘you know what, it would be great if (insert group that, on the whole, don’t like him) liked me’ and the mirror responds with ‘oh but they do, sire’ then he just relays that to the world.

    eddiebaby
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    kimbers
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    I wonder if the House race will be closer than pollsters think.

    Hes whipping up the fear of immigrants, sending 1000s of troops to the border, happy to capitalise on the Soros conspiracies about evil immigrants & even muslim terrorists in the migratnt caravan , it’s all depressingly familiar to the way Gove & Johnson bounced off Farage s breaking point poster to lie about Turkey joining the EU.

    Even though it contributed to the murder of Jo Cox, people still voted with them.

    I’d like to be wrong maybe there are more decent Americans out there

    mikewsmith
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    Well the assessment is really a split with house going blue

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/

    and Senate staying red

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/

    Of course it’s all based on the polls with assessments and historic norms applied but I think the indicators are high for the house going blue, senate is the wrong seats for a flip.

    It’s in line with a hugely unpopular president upsetting lots of people along the way, is “his base” are the consistent 35% who always approve then they have  a lot of voting to do.

    colp
    Full Member

    That SNL clip is ace.

    tomhoward
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    If there is a flip, how long do we think it will be before democrats are ‘enemies of the people’?

    mikewsmith
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    They already are, had the misfortune to see some of the attack adds, they are going to flood the country with immigrants to dilute your beliefs and take your guns away along with bankrupting the country and putting your taxes up.

    Evil pure evil…..

    CountZero
    Full Member

    It seems that the current style of aggressive, combative and toxic politics in the US, and increasingly in other countries, can be laid firmly at the door of Newt Gingrich:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Election aside, bad day for trump

    mikewsmith
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    Good time to drop that in case people are voting on the way home

    martinhutch
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    This was the guy whose private jet was mysteriously touring Trump rally locations in the weeks before the election, no?

    Can’t see why that would attract attention…

    This seems a bit optimistic though

    Lowlifes like Cohen might do deals with the feds, but I imagine Russian oligarchs would have additional things to keep them quiet.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Apparently Meuller is looking at Arron Banks emails to the Russian ambassador too.

    If russia did buy or compromise Brexiters, trump or anyone, Putin has made it very clear that people that betray him are not safe wherever they are.

    MSP
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    Trump and the Republicans are quite keen on rendition, waterboarding and other rather dubious methods of information gathering, I wonder if they will be so keen to implement those methods to find the truth when they are in the cross hairs.

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    So democrates won a house or something….is Trump impeached yet

    Klunk
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    the democrat commentator on bbc early news made and interesting point that the now they (the democrats) have control of the lower house and therefore its committees they can subpoena  documents (including donnies tax returns)

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    (including donnies tax returns)

    REALLY hope they show he was born in Kenya.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Yeah the heat is on for Trump

    Some of these guys are going to keep flipping on him.

    Pigface
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    If the Democrats spend the next two years going after Trump then they will hand him a second term, they have to be really smart how they do things.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Yep, which is why they tried as much as possible not to mention him in campaigning, they don’t need to go after him more than keeping the process going. Doing the committee things presenting the evidence and his republican support drops.

    Trump has done enough to take himself down and will continue to give that to the world

    kimbers
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    agree wth pigface, dems did well but Trumps base stayed very resilient, even if some of the traditional rep base turned against him, they still backed plenty of upleasant candidates!

    even if meuller produces a smoking gun, his supporters will still be able to call it #fakenews & carry on as normal

    Klunk
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    think the democrates did well considering they were sailing into a “The economy, stupid” headwind, though the US electorate does like to hamstring the sitting president as the incumbent with such good economic numbers he really should be doing better (they were run pretty close in a lot of very safe republican senate seats)

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