Donald! Trump!

& to complete the line up to Trumps idiots – we have a climate change denier in charge of energy.

& to complete the line up to Trumps idiots – we have a climate change denier in charge of energy.

Sorry to be boring, but President-Elect Trump doesn’t get to appoint senior posts without Senate approval. The question is whether every Republican Senator will vote with him.

The other question is why he’s made choices that might not be waved through by Senators

On the subject of bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities, they’re well and truly underground after previous attacks. Israel doesn’t have the kit, but the US does, as demonstrated when US B2 bombers struck Yemen in October https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kzy2klyko

Sorry to be boring, but President-Elect Trump doesn’t get to appoint senior posts without Senate approval. The question is whether every Republican Senator will vote with him.

The other question is why he’s made choices that might not be waved through by Senators

I think it’s to do with being an unhinged wannabe dictator.

AJ have a piece on that topic if anyone wants a read of some selective quotes from Trump picks regarding Israel/Palestine.

I am not sure why anyone should focus too much on what Donald Trump says…….. his word is his bond?

Trump has also made deeply anti-semitic comments, some quite recently. I would focus more on what Trump does and has done than what he has said. And I wouldn’t worry too much about what his appointees have said, it won’t be them that decide policy, not even Elon Musk who he is willing to publicly humiliate.

Here is another AJ piece which suggests another angle:

No, Trump will not be worse than Biden for Palestine and the Middle East

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/11/11/no-trump-will-not-be-worse-than-biden-for-palestine-and-the-middle-east

Like I said… absolutely delusional

Well I consider anyone who believes that Joe Biden, the US president who has been unconditionally giving away vast amounts of weapons to a far-right apartheid regime, so that it can slaughter Palestinian men, women, and children, and destroy their homes, schools, and hospitals, as someone who has provided any sort of protection to the people of Gaza, as delusional.

Although personally I like to expand beyond simple insults.

The USA doesn’t “give away” weapons to anyone.

Sorry to be boring, but President-Elect Trump doesn’t get to appoint senior posts without Senate approval. The question is whether every Republican Senator will vote with him.

It’s the start of the loyalty tests. You say he can’t do these things without senate approval but his question to the three people who were jockeying to lead the senate was ‘would you let me do this without Senate approval?’ and all of them answered ‘yes’. They all see letting Trump get his way as a prerequisite to getting the job. There is a mechanism – Recess Appointments-  that facilitates appointments being made during periods when the Senate aren’t sitting.

You could see this as some sort of arch attempt by Trump to cleverly subvert democracy, or you could see it as him too lazy to do the work. It seems his underlying strategy in recruiting cabinet members is for anyone who wants a job tells him they want the job. Musk did it most brazenly by doing it live on air. Gaetz actually did it in the air. He managed to get in a room with Trump on Airforce 1 and hey presto – Attorney General. Trump’s chief of staff was in the the next room, unaware she’d been sidelined in the whole process. (so Susie Wiles for your resigned / fired-by-tweet bingo card)

Theres no strategy to any of this- theres just a gaggle of people with their own personal motivations all thinking they can advance their cause if they can get Trump’s ear. What Trump announces publicly tends to be whatever last person said to him before he spoke, (or if it’s before lunch time it tends to be whatever he’s just seen on Fox and Friends). So all these people are going to be fighting amongst themselves to be that last word in his ear.

It’s been quite noticeable for a while now when he speaks now how the people around him are clamouring to do that. In his rallies he’s increasingly been using phrases like ‘People are tell me…’ ‘They’re telling me a have to……’ even ‘They’re making me……’. But he’s also playing off what he’s being ‘told’ against what his crowd want to cheer and boo

binners

If you think this can’t get massively worse under Trump very, very quickly then you’re absolutely delusional

Like I said… absolutely delusional

Come on binners, you’re at your best when you use a bit of good natured humour to get a point across, not using words like delusional.

I disagree with Ernie’s opinion on this particular subject and he certainly doesn’t need me to to stand up for him (I think Ernie would agree) but why use words like “delusional” to get your point across?

If you’d called Trump delusional or psychotic id likely agree but most importantly, he’s not a member of our wonderfully dysfunctional (I know but generalised term and not seeking to undermine a poster…) little forum. Likely many agree with your points so why undermine them with with words like that.

Anyway, I’m not the forum police thank God and I’m likely to be deemed a snowflake to raise this but it’s just my 2p’s worth.

Sorry to go wildly ot peeps!

maccruiskeen
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There is a mechanism – Recess Appointments- that facilitates appointments being made during periods when the Senate aren’t sitting.

Id skim read about that on CNN I think but does it evade any type of approval being needed at a later date? Honest question, I don’t know.

Apologies Ernesto. I didn’t mean to be insulting. I know this is a subject close to your heart so sorry if I was dismissive.

I just don’t think the orange monkey is about to ride to anyones rescue, least of all the Palestinians.

With Trump, everything is transactional and they’ve absolutely nothing to offer him.

Anyway… this seems to have become yet another utterly depressing thread about Gaza and I fear the worst as I envisage what little restraint the Israelis have shown so far will go completely out of the window in January

The process for cabinet is here… https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-constitution-and-the-cabinet-nomination-process

The last sentence includes, “…the success rate of cabinet nominees in the Senate has been very high.”

To clarify, I’m not against religion I’m against “people killing each other because they don’t agree with what I say God is.”

That said, how do people  resolve what trump is relation to what the Bible teaches?

It baffles me but scared me far more.

‘Anointed by God’: The Christians who see Trump as their saviour

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20g1zvgj4do

The other question is why he’s made choices that might not be waved through by Senators

heads I win, tails you lose.

Senators wave through – win

Senators block/delay/whatever – they become swamp beast enemy of the peoples and he’ll have a grand old time making up mean names for them

The more cynical commentators are saying that a couple of his selections are so wild, even by the standards of the present Republican Party, that they’ll be knocked back.

This will leave the rest of his candidates, who are still completely barking, to be approved but the ‘moderates’ (everything’s relative) will take it as a victory. Ultimately the key positions in government will still be in the grip of complete loons. Nodding dogs who will unquestioningly do Trumps bidding.

@Poopscoop – that article is absolutely terrifying. It’s pretty obvious that none of the preachers quoted have ever watched the Life of Brian

He’s not the messiah! He’s a very naughty boy!

I am not sure why anyone should focus too much on what Donald Trump says……..

Well, quite, and I’m not.

The other question is why he’s made choices that might not be waved through by Senators

As above these are loyalty tests. He wants to root out ‘RINO’ senators and try to tank their reelection campaigns if he can, or use the threat of setting his supporters on them to get them into line.

Apologies Ernesto. I didn’t mean to be insulting. I know this is a subject close to your heart so sorry if I was dismissive.

Thanks. Appreciated.

As above these are loyalty tests. He wants to root out ‘RINO’ senators and try to tank their reelection campaigns if he can, or use the threat of setting his supporters on them to get them into line.

Exactly this.

Remember when we were all trying to convince ourselves that there surely must’ve been enough sane Tory MPs to not vote through Brexit or whatever. It’s self interest first, party second and what’s actually good for people is probably down about 97th in the pecking order

@Poopscoop – that article is absolutely terrifying. It’s pretty obvious that none of the preachers quoted have ever watched the Life of Brian

He’s not the messiah! He’s a very naughty boy!

I’m old enough to remember the controversy of that as a kid. 🙂

I doubt trump’s religious supporters have watched it but even if they did it would be lost upon them that it wasn’t actually about Jesus! I mean it’s obviously to you and me but totally lost on some people it seems. In a way, it’s the best joke of the whole movie! Genius really.

And he’s picked a fracking exec as energy “minister”.

Remember when we were all trying to convince ourselves that there surely must’ve been enough sane Tory MPs to not vote through Brexit or whatever.

More pertinently with regards to the Recess Appointments – remember Johnson’s attempts at proroguing parliament to prevent his own MPs from even having a vote.

I think we all remember the halcyon days when we were repeatedly told that the ‘grown-ups’ would sort things out post-Brexit vote. They never turned up, they were either purged, or kept quiet and voted as they were told. You had the spectacle of supposed ‘grown up’ MPs who fiercely opposed Brexit during the campaign, suddenly performing a gigantic switcheroo and defending it to the hilt.

This is much the same. The cavalry is not coming. The most that can be done is to hold fast and hope that the Democrats get their acts together and retake senate or house in two years time so they can perform damage limitation at that point.

I’m waiting to see the tricks the Project 25 mob will pull to interfere with voting rights and prevent that happening.

That said, how do people  resolve what trump is relation to what the Bible teaches?

Its the Cyrus the Great exception clause.

He is the King who ended the Babylon captivity for the Jews and so despite being an unbeliever and a bit of a git besides he got a bunch of love in the bible.

Spot the robotic dog is patrolling trump’s ground… But competitors, such as those bad Chinese, are trying to weaponize the adorable security devices.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30p16gn3pvo

edit: just read some of the above. seems a bit of a non story now! **** batshit.

Small satisfaction but I enjoyed Marina Hyde’s Don Jr analysis

“But for now, everyone is playing happy blended families, with Don Jr still firing out shitposts in the hope that it looks as impressive as being the world’s richest man and catching a falling space rocket with some chopsticks.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/19/donald-trump-jr-elon-musk-nepo-baby-billionaire

haha

a few pages back I joked that Trump would appoint Hulk Hogan to education (that he wants to dismantle anyway?!?)

and hes only gone and put in WWE cofounder in the job (who is currently in hot water over a child sexual abuse scandal….)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rl8knmg8eo

who is currently in hot water over a child sexual abuse scandal

Trump’s list of appointments is looking more and more like a register.

Trump’s  also picked tv’s Doctor Oz to be in charge of Medicare. Oz pushed and promoted Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Covid during the pandemic and also…. had more than $600000 of investments in companies that make and distribute Hydroxychloroquine. But on the plus side there doesn’t seem to be any suggestion he’s sexually assaulted anyone yet.

Mat Gaetz has gone

futonrivercrossing
Free Member
Mat Gaetz has gone

Not enough sexual offences. It’s a high bar these days in the Trump cabinet and he didn’t cut it for such a high state of office.

Mat Gaetz has gone

Good. I was having trouble pronouncing his name

I kept saying Mat Gats. And then correcting it to Mate Gates.

Very frustrating

I’m slightly concerned that the theory might be right that Trump went for the most unsuitable candidates so when they have to stand aside he can replace them with a less well known lunatic.

I assumed it was because Trump didn’t want to be the only one in the next administration to have a dodgy sex record, and he wanted to make sex offenses more mainstream and acceptable.

It could be the most dysfunctional democratic government in history.

… And we just survived 14 years of Tory.

I think Trump just doesn’t see having a sexual predator on his own a team as a bad thing.

Thats juat normal to him

kimbers
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I think Trump just doesn’t see having a sexual predator on his own a team as a bad thing.

Thats juat normal to him

It’s the funniest answer so could be the right one.

I mean, he’s still got at least one left? I genuinely don’t know how many other (sexual) wrong’uns he’s nominated… Which is a reflection of my terrible memory AND how mad US politics is.

Not long before first lady Eloner Musk is jilted…… Donald likes being the lead dog and currently his nose is up another (Elon) dogs arse.

oldmanmtb2
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Not long before first lady Eloner Musk is jilted…… Donald likes being the lead dog and currently his nose is up another (Elon) dogs arse.

This is true. He’s already staying to look like a bit of a tag-nut to Trump. Can you imagine when the inevitable happens? Trump Vs the owner of X/ the worlds richest man?

It’ll be entertaining, yes but ultimately we’ll all me paying the price one way or another. It’s all a bit depressing.

I think Trump has taken a page out of Melania’s book…….. what attracts him to Elon Musk is his money.

As someone recently pointed out that being best buddies with the richest man on earth means that Trump never needs to talk to a banker again – all his personal financial needs are guaranteed.