Clarkson 'n-word' furore!

Regardless of this clip, does anyone actually think that Clarkson is a racist? Surely that’s the point isn’t it?

The BBC have double standards. The Top Gear franchise is, I believe, one of the highest revenue earners for the BBC. Hence reluctance to sack him for his numerous insulting remarks. Now he is backtracking with pathetic apologies for something he “didn’t” say.

fervouredimage – dunno never met him

all we have to go by is the stuff we see in the media, like when he says n*****

Regardless of this clip, does anyone actually think that Clarkson is a racist? Surely that’s the point isn’t it?

That was sort of my point, right back at the start.

No I don’t think he is, not seen anything he’s said or read that’s suggested that he may be to me anyway. Ironic it’s the Daily Mail who are calling him racist the paper famous for anti-muslim slander.

That was sort of my point, right back at the start.

Yeah but is Stewart Lee funny that’s the real crux of the matter.

If people spent as much time and effort getting outraged about the real issues in the world and not trivial nonsense like this then the world would be a far better place.

The plot thickens……should I be offended by something which wasn’t aired because it was deemed offensive ?

It’s something Daily Mail readers are very hot on.

If people spent as much time and effort getting outraged about the real issues in the world and not trivial nonsense like this then the world would be a far better place.

True, but the papers need padding out.

If people spent as much time and effort getting outraged about the real issues in the world and not trivial nonsense like this then the world would be a far better place.

Don’t turn this into another 29 vs 650B thread.

So he might just be a boorish tosser rather than a card-carrying racist?

We should be more worried by the fact he bought a house on the Isle of Man and then tried getting the coastal path diverted in land so Oiks [can I use that word ?] didnt walk across his land.
Sums him up really arse hole

If people spent as much time and effort getting outraged about the real issues in the world and not trivial nonsense like this then the world would be a far better place.

Good point, racism isn’t real, it’s just a trivial fairy story.

We should be more worried by the fact he bought a house on the Isle of Man and then tried getting the coastal path diverted in land so Oiks [can I use that word ?] didnt walk across his land

We covered that on here all those years ago.

Regardless of this clip, does anyone actually think that Clarkson is a racist? Surely that’s the point isn’t it?

Clarkson is a light entertainment TV personality. There’s nothing else to him (as far as the public is concerned) apart from whether he is likeable or not.

Regardless of this clip, does anyone actually think that Clarkson is a racist? Surely that’s the point isn’t it?

I’ll put my hand up and say “yes” to thinking that Top Gear is pervasively racist. I don’t know how much Clarkson and the other two presenters input into the script and other editorial decisions, so I don’t feel informed enough to call how much of that might or might not originate from Clarkson specifically, but all three of them at the very least accept it by saying the lines.

There’s the Mexican thing, the ‘slope’ thing, quite a bit of the Indian special, the one-eyed Scottish idiot thing, this ‘****’ thing now, the “holds up a pie, and a key” thing (sorry, casual racism about Gypsies and Travellers is the one that’s still generally acceptable, including in here, isn’t it?)… there has to come a point where you can’t continue to excuse it as “isolated lapse of editorial judgement” and consider the whole.

If people spent as much time and effort getting outraged about the real issues in the world and not trivial nonsense like this then the world would be a far better place.

Racism isn’t a real issue?

Racism isn’t a real issue?

Is “nurrrnum” a racist word now?

Sorry to move away from Jezza for a minute but

And I’m still desperate to find out who CountZero actually finds funny.

– judging from his posts on here I’d say no-one as he doesn’t seem to have ANY sense of humour.

it’s sunny out for those of you that ride bikes.

does anyone actually think that Clarkson is a racist?

I am not sure how many examples people need of him being casually racist before they think he may actually just be a racist

IME people who make lots of racist “jokes” and play on lazy stereotypes tend to be sympathetic to the view they are constantly expressing.

I am not sure why anyone would think otherwise tbh.
If you dont believe it why are you constantly saying/doing it?

it’s sunny out for those of you that ride bikes.

I feel sorry for those that don’t having to put up with the rain.

Is “nurrrnum” a racist word now?

Not sure that we should be taking advice on what constitutes racism from the guy who said he would carry on using the word ‘chinky’.

I was more surprised to read the Beeb’s defence of the “slope” comment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/27236363

“It has subsequently been brought to our attention, that the word slope is considered by some to be offensive, for example in Australia and the USA.
“If we had known that at the time we would not have broadcast the word in this context and regret any offence caused

Really? It never occurred to anyone on the production team that a nickname for a race of people might be offensive?

Clarkson is a light entertainment TV personality. There’s nothing else to him (as far as the public is concerned) apart from whether he is likeable or not.

This is very true, but this should be seen in the context that TV, and TV shows with high ratings, have quite an influence on British culture. So if causal bigotry is deemed acceptable on TV then it is likely to be deemed more acceptable in wider society.

For a thread about a word causing offence, there’s an awful lot of words replaced with asterisks, aren’t there?

Not sure that we should be taking advice on what constitutes racism from the guy who said he would carry on using the word ‘chinky’.

That took a lot longer than I thought. So is nurrrrnum racist or not?

So he DID use the word, then. Otherwise, what’s he apologising for?

Oh well. F him, then. (shrug)

I’m conflicted. What if I listen to rap and comedians that use the N word? How am I supposed to feel?

have people actually heard the video? he definately does not say nurrnnn

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/video-watch-jeremy-clarkson-use-3481201

Dont hear anyone moaning they put all the eye candy directly behind them in any studio shots, so blatant sexism is fine… pot kettle? Best not say black…

He’s an arse.

But we knew that from his attitude to cyclists and… well almost everyone
Better to have him repentant and calmer on TV than a martyr off it.
But should do 4 weeks on a tandem with people from the nations and races he’s insulted as penance

Dont hear anyone moaning they put all the eye candy directly behind them in any studio shots, so blatant sexism is fine… pot kettle?

Oh that’s been covered here too in the past.

have people actually heard the video? he definately does not say nurrnnn

Yes. He doesn’t say the N word either.

I am surprised the bit in the BBC snooker yesterday about the nationalities of snooker players (the potless section) didn’t offend some. The old-fashioned assumption that an person with an Indian name and, presumably, dark skin could not be a Brit was worse IMO. Parrot and Doherty sounded as if they were definitely still in the age of pot black in B&W (sorry).

I am sure the whole TG thing is designed to push buttons to the limit. That is part of the appeal/disgust (you chose). It’s a bit like UKIP, I am sure that most so-called supporters don’t agree with a lot that is said, but gloss over that in favour of the anti-PC/anti-politician sentiment that caries both along.

That took a lot longer than I thought. So is nurrrrnum racist or not?

He don’t say ‘nurrrrrrnum’ though did he. He said **** – but just mumbled it slightly. It’s pretty clear when you watch the clip.

Even he’s not denying it so I’m not sure why you are.

Dont hear anyone moaning they put all the eye candy directly behind them in any studio shots, so blatant sexism is fine… pot kettle? Best not say black…

Whataboutery at its finest.

He said **** – but just mumbled it slightly. It’s pretty clear when you watch the clip.

Not to me it wasn’t.

He said **** – but just mumbled it slightly. It’s pretty clear when you watch the clip.

Did he not say it sounded it still may have sounded like the N word, hold on how come you can use it? RACIST!

But should do 4 weeks on a tandem with people from the nations and races he’s insulted as penance

You’re going to need a bigger bike…

I’m conflicted. What if I listen to rap and comedians that use the N word? How am I supposed to feel?

Well you have to consider things such as context and intention, and then apply a big dollop of commonsense. All of which tends to be beyond the grasp of both racists and the PC herberts. And since you’ve had to ask presumably yours too 🙂

it’s sunny out for those of you that ride bikes.

No it’s cloudy here. Let’s get worked up over something that wasn’t broadcast.

C’mon drac, by all means have a bit of fun, but the clips are pretty obvious.

Did he not say it sounded it still may have sounded like the N word, hold on how come you can use it? RACIST!

Oh maybe. And you’re convinced by that? Really?

And can you really not see the difference between reciting a racist nursery rhyme because you think it’s entertaining, and factually describing an incident? Really?

C’mon drac, by all means have a bit of fun, but the clips are pretty obvious.

Honestly I’m not hearing it. Ok let’s say he did say it in an old Nursery Rhyme in an edit, there must be tonnes of footage not used for various reasons. Anyway say he did use it in Nursery Rhyme of old how come that’s wrong but it’s not for grum and other’s to use it on this and other threads? Surely they’re referring to the N word in offensive sense where he was repeat a childhood nursery rhyme for selecting who’s it.

Ah he replied whilst I was typing.

A nursery rhyme of old that’s no longer used and you using it casually, no I can’t you’re arguably using it in the same context.

Where did I say it was entertaining?