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Boris Johnson!
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MoreCashThanDashFull Member
We need an inquiry – but there are no punishments in place for the damage and crimes committed it seems.
If crimes are proven to have been committed, then of course there will punishments.
I’m far more concerned that lessons are learnt and preparations are made for the next similar crisis. Much as I’d love to see lies and deliberate “mistakes” exposed and used against them, vengeance is not so important to me.
2PJM1974Free MemberThe Brexit vote enabled all the closet racists alongside all the “we’re fed up of experts” brigade and it’s the desperate rush for a “balanced” viewpoint that allows utter morons to platform their views alongside actual experts.
World expert on economics – leave will result in the UK being substantially poorer.
And here we have Steve from Essex – unintelligible grunts about sovrintee.Yep. I’m I’m staggered that so many people didn’t understand then that “balanced” debates aren’t the same as objectivity. I’ve seen it on this forum, too.
Like hundreds of thousands of people, I’m mourning the loss of family from the pandemic. Johnson in fact threw a party at Downing St on the very day that I heard my mother gasping her last words to me over the phone.
It’s not just Johnson I want to see held culpable. I want to see those who sponsored him, enabled him and the client journalists who knew exactly what he was like but who made excuses for him to all be held to account.
3MSPFull MemberIt wasn’t Steve from Essex though, it was a bunch of political grifters financed by right wing PACS (mainly American billionaires) and Putin. And while some realisation of the damage done is being directed at the easier to portray bogeymen of Putin, China and some arab states. The western oligarchy is having the biggest impact on distorting western democracy and is continuing to do so with barely a whisper of challenge.
dudeofdoomFull MemberFarage and Johnson together in the same party? That much incompetence, hubris, and failure together in one place would be a joy to watch.
I can’t see BJ standing with Farage who’s a loser in his view, BJ got elected as PM but Farage couldn’t even get elected as a MP so other than on the sidelines shouting has never gained a genuine position of power, other than being an MEP.
I’m not saying that Farage is impotent but he’s never achieved true power.
Why would BJ dilute his brand 🙂
binnersFull MemberLooks like Johnson (though now apparently not even an MP) and his allies in the party are still manoeuvring and up to all kinds of their typical chicanery to corrupt the parliamentary process once again. The party whips are absolutely complicit in this, probably desperately trying to limit the damage and fearing him taking everyone else down with him and causing even more chaos if they don’t go along with it.
I had a feeling that his (dis)honours list and last Fridays toy-chucking tantrum wouldn’t be the last of it, and so it isn’t. He’s still got another big two fingers to everyone yet.
What a **** that man is. The absence of even a shred of contrition, remorse or self-awareness would be staggering in anyone else, barring Liz Truss, but with him its just more of the same
After the very serious business of the privileges committee judging that Boris Johnson willfully and recklessly lied to parliament when saying all Covid rules were followed in Downing St, there will then be the unedifying political game of the party whips maneuvering to decide…
— Robert Peston (@Peston) June 13, 2023
mattyfezFull MemberThis could all get very confusing and messy, for Johnson and the Tory Party. Which given that Boris Johnson is at the centre of it all may not be a surprise.
Haha! That’s an understatement.
tjagainFull MemberAnd the trouble making has started. Accusing Jenkin of being at a birthday party under lockdown and thus Jenkin resign from and should be referred to the privileges committee.
What fights more than rats in a sack?
moimoifanFree MemberWho’s running the country while this panto is going on?
Presumably the much derided Blob that Truss was so keen to blame for her own stupidity?
We might as well change the national anthem to the Benny Hill Show theme tune now.
mattyfezFull MemberWhat fights more than rats in a sack?
MPs on a bench?
We’re gonna need a better metaphor..
moimoifanFree MemberWe’re gonna need a better metaphor..
Bacteria in a scum.
HTH.
crazy-legsFull MemberIt’s not just Johnson I want to see held culpable. I want to see those who sponsored him, enabled him and the client journalists who knew exactly what he was like but who made excuses for him to all be held to account.
You’re going to need a fair old length of wall for that!
Even now though, he’s getting legal fees and rent and holidays and god only knows what else paid for by rich donors – what the hell is in it for them or are they still “paying him back” based on Brexit and the millions they made on shorting the pound or moving business overseas?
1theotherjonvFree MemberSupposedly then today we get to read the Priv Committee report, meanwhile Johnson is taking aim at the Chair saying he was also at parties and therefore can’t be relied on to write a fair report, it’s all devalued, etc.
This is better than Netflix, other than as SKS said yesterday, meanwhile people are struggling to eat and pay their bills while the clown show argues like petulant kids in the 3rd form about who can have a seat in the Lords
Nadine won’t go quietly, looks like she wants to burn down as much as she can on the way……and even the opening salvos in the Covid enquiry seem to already be incredulous at the lack of preparedness despite there being reports predicting an epidemic of some sort at some time.
My favourite quote of the last few days; when a clown moves into a castle it doesn’t make him a King, it makes the castle into a circus.
Red noses at the ready, this is coming to its glorious throwing buckets of water at each other crescendo!
4binnersFull MemberThis report must be worse than anyone expects if their desperation to stop it being published is anything to go by.
there’s a cracking quote from an unnamed Tory MP in the Guardian this morning
“We’re not far off him asking Andrew Bridgen for his tinfoil hat supplier.”
2dissonanceFull MemberSupposedly then today we get to read the Priv Committee report, meanwhile Johnson is taking aim at the Chair saying he was also at parties and therefore can’t be relied on to write a fair report, it’s all devalued, etc.
Leaving aside the other flaws surely someone else who ignored the rules is more likely to be sympathetic than someone who followed all the rules?
If I was going to be done for cycling on a footpath I would prefer to have people who also feel the access laws arent fit for purpose than a member of the ramblers.3kimbersFull MemberI quite like that’s it’s a lot of the pro Brexit loons turning on each other too
That they’re willing to bring down Jenkin in a pointless effort to invalidate the committee is awesome
Johnson is an unflushable turd, Sunak must be tearing his hair out waiting for the cistern to refill so he can try again
2MoreCashThanDashFull MemberSo you cannot rely on a man who attended a party to pass judgement on a man accused of lying about attending a party he was fined for attending?
Have we got two wrongs making a right here?
6nickcFull MemberThe weight of irony of Johnson claiming that other MP are unreliable and can’t be trusted should have it’s own event horizon
binnersFull MemberNo wonder he jumped before he was pushed
The conclusion is that he repeatedly recklessly and intentionally misled the house and was in contempt of parliament on multiple occasions
A recommended 90 day or more suspension and the removal of his parliamentary pass
He’s already condemned the committee as a ‘Kangaroo Court’ again this morning and has said their judgement is ‘absurd’ ‘tripe’ and ‘a pack of lies’. Well… he’s certainly recognise those. He then says these are ‘trumped up charges’ and ‘a sad day for democracy’ and ‘a political assassination’
Looks like he’s coming out swinging. Theres going to be some twitchy arses in number 10. He’s throwing hand grenades around everywhere in his statement
martinhutchFull MemberHowever much I hate Johnson, and think he deserves to be out on his ear, the unprecedented recommendation of a 90-day suspension seems remarkable, and lays them open to the charge that it’s driven by personal animosity. I was expecting something just over the recall limit.
Here’s the precedents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_from_the_UK_parliament
gobuchulFree Member90-day suspension seems remarkable
I think that is a result of him calling it a “kangaroo court”.
That completely undermines the parliamentary process. Straight out of the Trump playbook and incredibly dangerous.
It still would of have to of been voted for in the HoC and then he could of ran in his by-election.
tjagainFull MemberI think his performance in front of the committee probably infuriated them as did his public comments afterwards – and parliamentarians like Jenkin find breaking the rules of the house to be serious stuff.
martinhutchFull MemberSNP committee member capturing the public mood: 🙂
Thats a much longer suspension than expected. Long but not the longest – Keith Vaz was suspended for 6 months. Unanimous verdict (apart SNP MP on cttee who recommended explosion) https://t.co/Fu1hbbPhU4
— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) June 15, 2023
kimbersFull MemberDoes anyone believe for a minute that Johnson is the kind of guy who doesnt notice a party
2binnersFull Member90-day suspension seems remarkable
So is a serving prime minister conducting themselves in the manner he has
With his carry on since last week, going ‘Full Trump’, he’s dug his own political grave and he’s still enthusiastically burrowing away. In fact, it looks like he’s asked for a JCB 😂
Anyway… **** him! He’s still not getting what he really deserves. He should be behind bars
frankconwayFree MemberJust been listening to chunks of johnson’s statement beibg read out.
Deluded and trumpian.
90 days – ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Tory party civil war!1martinhutchFull MemberThe delicious part is that Sunak will now be asked if he endorses the findings of the committee. If he does so, that lights the blue-touch paper. Disagreeing with it puts him in an awful position as a serving Prime Minister.
Hence this kind of shilly-shallying – but he can’t put it off forever.
Rishi Sunak is asked several times for a comment on Boris Johnson and the partygate report.
Politics latest: https://t.co/MN45tfGyF1 pic.twitter.com/LIHHTZAVzR
— Sky News (@SkyNews) June 15, 2023
Oh, and I almost forgot that there will now be a vote in the House so we can all see who’s still backing him after this.
jonnyboiFull MemberStarmer knew was was toast in 2022, it was just a long game to get there -“The ministerial code says that ministers who knowingly mislead the house should resign”
dissonanceFull MemberIts good to see that in his response he is doubling down on the lies.
binnersFull MemberDoes this mean we get our quarter of a million back for his legal fees then?
MSPFull MemberDoes this mean we get our quarter of a million back for his legal fees then?
I think it more likely that he claims that the poor quality of the legal representation supplied to him by the public purse is also at fault for the outrageous findings of the committee.
hightensionlineFull MemberSo Johnson is doing exactly what was expected back in March, when he refused to comment on whether he would denounce any of his supporters labelling the enquiry as a kangaroo court. He set the precedent then, and it’s all so utterly predictable.
He’s a narcissist of the highest order, and has damaged the UK massively for his own petty gain.willardFull MemberYou know what? He can keep that money if he is permanently referred to as “Disgraced former Prime Minister, convicted criminal and suspended former MP Boris Johnson”.
What I would really like to see now is his honours list revoked because of this. Sadly, will never happen.
2tjagainFull Memberalthough he is following the trump / narcissist playbook here what he fails to understand is he neither has public backing or political backing that Trump has. Yes there are some who still support him but its a tiny fringe.
Popcorn is not enough for this – I may need a choc ice as well 🙂
12thepuristFull MemberPopcorn is not enough for this – I may need a choc ice as well
Be careful if you go to the fridge – you never know who might be hiding in there 😀
binnersFull MemberYes there are some who still support him but its a tiny fringe.
He’s gone full Trump, but this is where he differs enormously from the Orange man-baby… Trump still has supporters
Johnson’s support really is now a minuscule hardcore of absolute nutters, which makes it doubley hilarious that he delusionaly believes he’s some man of the people, loved by the electorate
fasthaggisFull MemberThe delicious part is that Sunak will now be asked if he endorses the findings of the committee. If he does so, that lights the blue-touch paper. Disagreeing with it puts him in an awful position as a serving Prime Minister.
Hence this kind of shilly-shallying – but he can’t put it off forever.
Indeed martin.
I fear he may well have to sleep in that kevlar stab vest he was wearing. 😉🙃
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