Boris Johnson!

At the next election he might try to get parachuted into a safe seat at the last minute

Only if they let him. Plus the pay isn’t enough for Boris to get out of bed let alone do anything dramatic like turn up for votes (for other people’s problems?) I think since leaving office he’s bothered to vote 4 times? Much easier and better to snipe from a column. It’s what he’s “good” at, the Telegraph will pay him handsomely – wasn’t he on a reported £250K? last time he worked there, and it’s easy work, which suits as he’s a lazy arse.

And along it comes, with crashing inevitability…

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'I can't think of a better way for Reform UK to make a massive impact on the electorate… it could utterly wipe out the Conservative Party.'

Ben Habib discusses the 'impact on the political landscape' if Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage formed an alliance.@benhabib6 pic.twitter.com/HHFkPpmhag

— GB News (@GBNEWS) June 13, 2023

The fly-tipped sofa and the nicotine-stained man-frog are apparently in talks to set up their own party.

But of course they are

Then we’d have two parties of right-wing headbangers competing with each other for the flag-shagging vote

Quite a prospect

Pretty much inevitable I would say.  Johnson wants to be a big fish and thats one way to get it. Good for the country as splitting the right wing vote will help labour in the same way as the SDP helped the tories

Good for the country as splitting the right wing vote will help labour in the same way as the SDP helped the tories

Not so good for the brown skinned chap walking alone past a ‘Farage’ pub who gets verbally or physically abused due to the further legitimisation of populist rightwing politics, though.

I think if they joined together they would remain a noisy political irrelevance, Brexit was the only reason Farage seemed to do well. A lot of Johnson supporters are dyed in the wool Torys, as much as they love Johnson (and after hearing 2 of them on the radio yesterday you do wonder why they are allowed out in public unescorted) they are Torys first, not kippers or whatever party they dream up. I think Boris will get bored quickly, fall out with the frog, 2 big egos in a small party wont be good, and unless theres someone with money paying for it all will need to find a decent source of income.

Poor Nadine. She was all set to become a peer courtesy of Boris but “sinister forces” have conspired to stop that.

That’d be the same Nadine Dorries who campaigned to leave the EU to get away from unelected bureaucrats now having a meltdown (exclusively in the Daily Mail obviously) on not being made an unelected bureaucrat in the House of Lords…

Johnson wants to be a big fish and thats one way to get it.

He also wants to be seen as a winner. I cant see him joining one of those parties since, as with the SDP and Change UK, it wouldnt get anywhere fast (outside of changing from fptp).
So I can see him possibly going for a seat in the tories around the next election but even there he might prefer to just hint rather than do.

The fly-tipped sofa and the nicotine-stained man-frog are apparently in talks to set up their own party.

But of course they are

Then we’d have two parties of right-wing headbangers competing with each other for the flag-shagging vote

Quite a prospect

Whenever i see or hear anything on GBNews i know that it’s usually the other way around, if something happens, whatever LBC and GBN say, the truth is somewhere in the middle, although closer to LBC these days as GBN seems to be a hospice for those who can’t get seen anywhere else, like Farage, Jim Davidson and so on, i don’t know what’s scarier, those who are part of this channel, or the fact there’s an audience for them!

The fly-tipped sofa and the nicotine-stained man-frog are apparently in talks to set up their own party.

But of course they are

Then we’d have two parties of right-wing headbangers competing with each other for the flag-shagging vote

Quite a prospect

I bet Cameron hadn’t banked on this when he enabled brexit.

I bet Cameron hadn’t banked on this when he enabled brexit.

He banked on <50% of the population being idiots. He lost.

What came after was never going to be his concern either way. The arrogant swine.

Then we’d have two parties of right-wing headbangers competing with each other for the flag-shagging vote

Quite a prospect

Our two party system is far from ideal. I’d quite like to see more main parties. Maybe four. A right wing party, that hopefully doesn’t see too many votes, but at the least allows for a more centre/right less headbanger-y conservative party. Then a centre/left and a proper socialist. They will then need the support of another party to get stuff done so less driving thorough their own agendas and more negotiation. It also might give more power to smaller parties like localised ones and the greens giving more people a say

Theres a lot been said about the ****, but I’m just listening to the opening submissions of the covid inquiry and its one person after another, after another, telling their stories of loved ones dying alone, often in care homes having been discharged there straight from hospitals with Covid

And that bastard, who couldn’t be arsed attending COBRA meetings at the start, didn’t take it seriously and who prevaricated, blustered and delayed all the way through, when not having a piss up, is presently more bothered about his mates getting baubles than he ever has been about these people.

My father-in-law nearly died and was in hospital for months in a medically induced coma and my wife and her mum couldn’t even go and see him

Listening to this just makes me so ****ing angry. He needs to be held accountable, for once in his miserable life, and not just stroll away like he seems to think he can as he always has done in the past

I’m not advocating, but I worry that if these things are allowed to slip by without those in power being held accountable for what they did – whatever that means – then someone somewhere some time will decide to exact their own version.

To my eye some things were laziness and / or incompetence and the punishment for that should be that everyone knows it and keeps in mind if they ever come to be up for election again. Some was just bent – PPE deals to mates, etc., and should face criminal charges for misuse of public money, or fraud, or whatever. But there has to be sanction

To my eye some things were laziness and / or incompetence and the punishment for that should be that everyone knows it and keeps in mind if they ever come to be up for election again. Some was just bent – PPE deals to mates, etc., and should face criminal charges for misuse of public money, or fraud, or whatever. But there has to be sanction

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Agree with both points above. My father in law was in hospital with no visitors for a couple of months following an op. Family was only allowed in once he entered end of life care. Whether the isolation contributed to his decline is an answer we will never know.

Sadly, I think that Johnson, Hancock, and the rest of the shower of shit will walk away from this with little to no consequence or sanction. It’s the way our system works.

I will never forgive them.

A lot of Johnson supporters are dyed in the wool Torys

Only partially correct, Johnson attracted a lot of the red wall voters who are now reverting back to Labour. However, I suspect that if Johnson were to announce a new party and he would be standing for leadership and the possibility to be prime minister they would jump back in a heartbeat.

if Johnson were to announce a new party and he would be standing for leadership and the possibility to be prime minister they would jump back in a heartbeat.

the trouble with this is that even if he had a great deal of support in the populace, translating that into gaining enough seats for a brand new party would be difficult

Farage and Johnson together in the same party? That much incompetence, hubris, and failure together in one place would be a joy to watch.

Farage and Johnson together in the same party? That much incompetence, hubris, and failure together in one place would be a joy to watch.

Papered over with some crude racism and nationalist rhetoric…

No problem.

Poor Nadine. She was all set to become a peer courtesy of Boris but “sinister forces” have conspired to stop that.

That depends on what she did for BJ to earn the promise.

Poor Nadine. She was all set to become a peer courtesy of Boris but “sinister forces” have conspired to stop that.

Oddly she doesnt seem to have formally resigned yet. Johnson did last night but she is still in place.

Only the stupidest (oh wait….) people woudn’t see BoJo and Farage forming a party as anything other than a cynical platform for garnering support from the knuckle draggers. Farage is complaining that Brexit isn’t working, yet it was Bojo that ‘got it done’.

its one person after another, after another, telling their stories of loved ones dying alone, often in care homes having been discharged there straight from hospitals with Covid

Yes, absolutely this. Social distancing and lockdowns caused huge harm to families, and to kids who were kept out of school, and to normal working people. I am sure that they also prevented great harm – I am not antivax and am sure well-intentionwd and incompetent mistakes were made there as everywhere else in life.

HOWEVER the fact that Johnson and his cabal didn’t believe in the effectiveness of the restrictions in the first place, or believed in them but just didn’t think they should have to comply, is absolutely sickening.

the pay isn’t enough for Boris to get out of bed let alone do anything dramatic like turn up for votes

True, but it’s clear that Johnson isn’t really interested in just money. If he was, he could just have spent the last decade working in the media and strategic advisory bullshit, all if which pays much better for him than politics. He wants luxury and power, but he doesn’t want the hassle of earning money or even showing up for meetings or votes or yawn-worthy boringness like that…

Time as a PM opens up vast potential income if done right – Blair managed that very well.

I f Johnson has retired as an MP, under what capacity will he make a comeback?

Johnson hasn’t formally resigned yet.

There could be more shenanigans ahead.

Johnson hasn’t formally resigned yet.

He did last night.

If Johnson has retired as an MP, under what capacity will he make a comeback?

Campbell/Stewart podcast last episode was predicting Johnson resigns, spends a couple of years with his snout in the public speaking circuit (and distributing IOUs on oligarchs’ yachts) where he doesn’t need to disclose the sources of his income, picks up a safe seat before the election, Sunak loses, Johnson becomws leader of the Tories, then gets to enjoy himself as leader of the Opposition, swanning around in big vroom vroom cars at other people’s expense, being loved by the people, and taking the piss out of that nerd Keir Starmer once a week at PMQs. Huzzah, what jolly japes for the king of the world!

It’s completely mad. But so is he. Berlusconi came back three times. Trump might be about to do it. Why not him?

You would hope the public would learn and make sure it doesn’t happen…however, we’ve also seen that the public don’t seem to learn anything!

An excellent letter in The Times this morning from ⁦@ClaughtonJohn⁩ — who, if memory serves, combined his work as a master at Eton with writing cricket reports for the Independent on Sunday. pic.twitter.com/sFcfqk9dKr

— Richard Williams (@rwilliams1947) June 13, 2023

Pick of the Week last Sunday had required listening. A mother who couldn’t visit her distressed daughter due to distance of travel restrictions. Call the police local to the daughter who eventually confirmed that the young woman had committed suicide. Funeral restricted to 3 people. The same police insisted that the flat was cleared of belongings on the day of the funeral.

Raw, visceral anger on display and the presenter was struggling too.

My son having to use pathetically inadequate PPE in a care home and catching the virus 4 or 5 times as a result.

My lovely Mother-in-Law dying due to giving up. Each visit to hospital resulted in a 14 day isolation period. Each one reducing her will to carry on. My youngest Brother-in-Law saw her out, he and the oldest sat with her in shifts to ensure she was not alone.

There was no wake, nor an inside church service. We socially distanced at the grave side as she was buried and flew home that afternoon.

Then to learn of the arrogant disregard and ignorance of their own rules. Angry, me? I’m bloody raging and no I won’t be moving on, ever.

Hanging without the use of a trapdoor would be literally too quick and dignified for those bastards in charge.

Do we need a separate inquiry thread?

Do we need a separate inquiry thread?

I think so.
Yet it will only, from my seat, stir up anger and resentment. We need an inquiry – but there are no punishments in place for the damage and crimes committed it seems.

You would hope the public would learn and make sure it doesn’t happen…however, we’ve also seen that the public don’t seem to learn anything!

52% voted Leave. You should abandon that quaint notion of hoping the general public know what they are doing with anything ever.

Half the people you see driving, walking, wandering around supermarkets etc would struggle to tell you what day it is.

Half the people you see driving, walking, wandering around supermarkets etc would struggle to tell you what day it is.

It must be miserable to go about your daily business with such a contemptuous attitude towards people Danny.

How do you cope?

Do you look to Jacob Rees-Mogg for inspiration?

It must be miserable to go about your daily business with such a contemptuous attitude towards people Danny.

It’s not half and I suspect social media magnifies the idiots even more but he’s not wrong – a significant % of the population should not be allowed out unsupervised.

The Brexit vote enabled all the closet racists alongside all the “we’re fed up of experts” brigade and it’s the desperate rush for a “balanced” viewpoint that allows utter morons to platform their views alongside actual experts.

World expert on economics – leave will result in the UK being substantially poorer.
And here we have Steve from Essex – unintelligible grunts about sovrintee.

Thank you both very much.

I suspect social media magnifies the idiots

Well it can be a bit of an eye-opener.

the “we’re fed up of experts” brigade

Which massively influenced the UK government response* to covid right back in late March, early April 2020. And this hubris was a direct consequence of the utter shits that Brexit empowered to become the so-called top team.

I’ve met Jonathan Van Tam. A more impressive individual in his field you cannot imagine. But the big bosses were useless chancers.

Johnson was too busy off porking god knows who’s wife and couldn’t be bothered to attend COBRA meetings.

Would someone like May or Cameron have done a better job in that crucial first fortnight? Yes – I genuinely think they would have.

Would someone like May or Cameron have done a better job in that crucial first fortnight? Yes – I genuinely think they would have.

May I agree with as she has a public service ethos.  Cameron?  maybe but he was a very weak PM who kowtowed to his backbenchers too much