An end to A&A / Friday Kylie please

I respect TJ more than most on here, simply because in my opinion he commands such respect by behaving in a more honourable and respectful manner himself.

Clearly Elfin you’ve been reading the wrong threads. May I suggest you look at the websites thread and count how many time TJ claims people who work in the media/marketing/design industry lead worthless, good for nothing lives.

Or even just go back over this thread and read some of the abuse he gives out.

I’ve been for a quick ride, have I missed anything? 😆

No TJ, it shouldn’t be stopped. For a tolerant liberal, this has to be the most intolerant request I’ve ever seen. Where would you like it to stop? There are people on here I don’t particularly like. Ban ’em! There are threads I disagree with. Ban ’em!
You don’t like it, don’t open it. Simple. For someone who tries to demonstrate a certain amount of intelñligence and maturity, you’ve failed badly. Failing to convince people of your argument, no problem, just call them stupid.
The only reason I’m supporting the A&A thread is people want to disrupt it. If you had let it die quietly, as it was doing, it wouldn’t be twisting your knickers so much now.
Get a grip and grow up, you’re behaving like a spoilt child.

stumpy01 – Member

I wish someone would objectify me, once in a while…..

+1. And if I could, someone other than the other half, too.

I had two young ladies discussing my bottom only the other night. 😳

I can’t say I was particularly displeased….

Sure they weren’t calling you an arse? 😆

Clearly Elfin you’ve been reading the wrong threads.

Nope. I’ve bin reading the same ones everyone else has. TJ has my respect. And that’s all that matters, as far as I’m concerned.

No TSY they were actually saying how nice it was, if you really must know.

My bottom was once favourably discussed by a group of women in a bar in New York. I was an object of public scrutiny. Can’t say the ordeal has had a lasting damaging effect on me, though.

I can’t be arsed reading all of this.

Did someone mention censoring the internet, or just the bit that TJ lives in?

*makes mental note to ride behind elfin at next supersexyswinleygathering*

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Can’t be bothered reading this, but I object to censoring of this forum unless hugely offending.
The restrictions on language and topics would make this a place not worth visiting or contributing to.

The main thing I find offensive on this forum is TJ’s blinkered view on life. I know he’s scotch, but does he need to be so dour?

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I object to TJ trying to ram his opinion down everyone’s throat again. 😐

I can’t be arsed reading all of this.

Did someone mention censoring the internet, or just the bit that TJ lives in?

Don’t bother to read it…I’ll summarise it for you.

Is a sexy picture in itself sexist?

anyway…

The Kylie Clause/A&A stays.

inappropriate images and comments will be dealt with severely.
Have a good weekend folks 🙂

Thing is though right, wether you agree with TJ or not, he does at least have the balls to voice his opinions and stick by them, and offer justification for them

But he hasn’t addressed any of the questions I asked him on Page 2 of the A&A thread.

If it was pornography and lechery we were after we would be looking elsewhere wouldn’t we?

The Kylie Clause/A&A stays.

I don’t even open the threads but I think free speech and common sense just won out over puritanical pious prats. I can go home happy. 😆

TandemJeremy – Member
And you wonder why women don’t come on the forum much

I read as far as this post and didn’t need to read any further.

As a woman, pictures of scantily clad women aren’t what puts me off posting on the forum. Rather it’s when threads degenerate into endless “Only my opinion is right” ping pong matches – the recent(to paraphrase) “what website for £600” comes to mind.

I’m not bothered by pictures of women in their knickers. I’m old and wise enough to have sussed that men don’t think the same way as I do so when I read a suggestive comment I may not like it, but I recognise that’s how some men are and I stop reading.

As for any “Think of the children” sentiments I’m afraid the genie’s been out of the bottle for far too long for that argument to be a reason to ban A&A.

Not as articulate response as I would wish, but it’s been a long day and I’m now going to leer at George Clooney to wind down.

Lets all do the WNBR this year and post pictures of ourselves.

Would that be OK? 😀

I read as far as this post and didn’t need to read any further.

As a woman, pictures of scantily clad women aren’t what puts me off posting on the forum. Rather it’s when threads degenerate into endless “Only my opinion is right” ping pong matches – the recent(to paraphrase) “what website for £600” comes to mind.

I’m not bothered by pictures of women in their knickers. I’m old and wise enough to have sussed that men don’t think the same way as I do so when I read a suggestive comment I may not like it, but I recognise that’s how some men are and I stop reading.

As for any “Think of the children” sentiments I’m afraid the genie’s been out of the bottle for far too long for that argument to be a reason to ban A&A.

Not as articulate response as I would wish, but it’s been a long day and I’m now going to leer at George Clooney to wind down.

That’s lovely darling, well done.

wether you agree with TJ or not, he does at least have the balls to voice his opinions and stick by them, and offer justification for them

True, but it is only an internet forum; so it’s not really that hard to do and it’s not like there is a personal risk to doing so. It more strikes me that he just might not have that much on in the real world.

Hehee! I wonder what TJ will have to say about The Sponsors post?

wether you agree with TJ or not, he does at least have the balls to voice his opinions and stick by them

No, he just likes to argue and try to bait people. I always imagine TJ jumping up and down in front of his pc shouting if people don’t agree with him while demanding facts and figures.

Is a sexy picture in itself sexist?

Not nececelery. Sexism is the attitude or implication that one sex is superior to another, in the same way that racism is the implication that one race is superior to another.

What has been proven, is that this thread is superior to the actual A+A one. Proving that TJ is win again.

Got any crisps, TJ?

Can someone tell me which the pictures it is in that thread they consider to be sexy?

I think nobody is really interested in looking at A&A pictures. People just want to post them to troll TJ.

If you had a thread all about hoovering, ironing and pink frilly objects, you wouldn’t want to add a discussion about beer and farting to make any male readers feel more welcome would you? No….hang on….that doesn’t sound right…..

The main thing I find offensive on this forum is TJ’s blinkered view on life. I know he’s scotch, but does he need to be so dour?

He’s actually English, which is all that needs saying about him.

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I dont approve of it personally but , given the thread title, it is very easy to avoid.

I like the idea of TJ taking an “extreme” position on an issue for dramatic/comedic effect. The only thing that would surprise anyone is TJ replying to any contentious thread with “Not bothered either way really…”. Or just not replying to a contentious thread – he seems to be on here 24/7 much of the time.

Wasn’t going to post but decided I have to even though I can’t be ar**ed to read this! Get a grip Friday Kylie will not put women off coming to this forum and if it does, well so be it. It’s easily avoidable. It’s like trying to stop your husband looking at porn it’s never going to happen .. plus is it really an issue?

Trying to stop men looking at pictures of women is pointless. I don’t really mind the pictures if the girls doing their sport and the sexiness is incedental. I do wonder why it is that women sportspeople find it necessary to do “glamour-like” shots but there you go. Often A&A degenerates into just tits and arses which is a bit “13 year old boy” Personnally I find threads like the Sue Perkins one more offensive.

Yeah, but do you actually complain about stuff you find offensive, or do you just tut and do nothing?

I admire TJ for his confidence in standing up for what he believes in, even in the face of great adversity. A quality many on here lack; they will only speak up if they feel they are being backed up by others. Safety in numbers. Quite cowardly really.

13 year old boy

The greatest mistake women ever make is thinking that normal men ever get beyond this age mentally.

I’m sure at some level it does keep women away from the forum, whether that is a problem or not is up for the owners to decide.

I find it a bit of a mystery to be honest, posting the same photos week in week out. I don’t think it’s necessarily harmless either, Allison Stokke is a case in point.

In most aspects of modern life you can avoid going to places which you find offensive. If you find lap bars offensive you stay away. If you avoid threads about tyres offensive, likewise. A&A is telegraphed, you can avoid clicking, or you can be just like the one who walks into the lap bar and rants about how offended you are…..

I find lots of things offensive but people have the right to do them if no one is being damaged, and I doubt if Jessica Ennis is upset that a few fat old IT farts think she’s fit.

I heard it spoken before but guess this proves it, the internet is serious business!

Zulu-Eleven – Member

A simple message for TJ, Elfin, and all their little left leaning friends:

You can stick your CCTV, Police State, wheelie bin Stasi, DNA, WMD, “Social Cohesion”, benefits for all, guilty until proved innocent, don’t do that it’s illegal now, can’t say that, ID cards for all, where are you going, what have you been saying/doing/reading, can’t photograph that, how very dare you, golliwog banning, we know where you live, we’re watching you Soviet Utopia up your arses. Sideways.

There, that pretty much sums up my feelings on the issue really!

Is that you John Wayne?

A quality many on here lack; they will only speak up if they feel they are being backed up by others.

He also never shuts up, backs down or gives up. There are several others on here with with a similarly high level of persistence.

The end result is that there are certain topics which simply aren’t worth discussing on here, because you’ll simply be swamped with inane and repetitive arguments, posted at an incredible rate. I’d say TJ is all for speaking up, so long as it’s him doing the speaking, or someone whose opinion he endorses. Ultimately that kind of behaviour creates an environment where people don’t speak up.

As a (male) relatively new poster here – yes A&A can be a little bit lame and tacky sometimes – but no more that the “show me your enter name of bike here threads.

Posting on internet forum for a sport where most participants are male and lots of the talk is gear freakery is always likely to be a largely male activity.

For a bloke to appoint himself the defender of women from evil and offence seems pompous and condescending.

To continue to do so repeatedly when everyone has heard his point of view suggests a desire to annoy or troll. Say it once on the thread – then walk away with dignity.

The thing about freedom of speech/artistic freedom, it you get to hear and see things you may not like.

If the siteowners/editors don’t like it they can stop it, if other people don’t like it they don’t have to look at the thread.

For those of you furiously googling Alison Stokke:

Her unwanted fame as an internet sex symbol can be traced to a fan who posted a photograph of the athlete stroking her brunette ponytail with her pole resting on her shoulder on an online message board about American football. The picture was e-mailed by a reader to Matt Ufford, a New York sports blogger, who posted it on his site, WithLeather.com, under the headline: “Pole Vaulting is Sexy, Barely Legal.”

Whilst some athletes are happy to pose for ‘sexy’ pics, others don’t actually want to play this media game. Which s of course their choice to make. And they should be respected for this. So, while posting pics of attractive young women might seem just a bit of ‘harmless fun’, it would be wise to consider all implications of such actions, and the dignity of the object of such ‘harmless fun’. Would you be so blasé if it were your daughter?

The attention has become so great that Miss Stokke, 18, now locks the doors and avoids leaving her house alone. Her father, a lawyer, checks the internet every night for potential stalkers. She has even had to enlist the services of a media adviser to fend off hundreds of requests for photographs and interviews.

If a person willingly puts themselves in the public eye, then they must expect the consequences. But when they are thrust into the limelight against their own wishes, isn’t this wrong?

oh look more women on tj’s offensive to women thread that really couldnt give a toss 😆