I think you’re onto something. Maybe the buildings were never really there to begin with. I mean, have any of you actually SEEN them, with your own eyes?

Well as regards the commission report, let’s not forget:

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What would you like us to take from that? I fail to see how it undermines any of the previous issues discussed so far.

Or are you trying to disprove science with politics again.

At risk of sounding tedious, no one on here has managed to provide an alternative explanation for the events on the day of 9/11 that’s has managed to stand up to the most basic level of scrutiny. Therefore the official explanation remains the only plausible account.

Read through the previous 18 pages and you’ll be given all the information you need to see that your assertion is incorrect.

Seriously, can we stop with this crap now!

(buildings fall down when they either are structurally weakened by a controlled demolition, or when they are structurally weakened by fire, impact, corrosion or any other factor) The reason you think it “looks like a controlled demolition” is simply because that is all you have ever seen. How many people have seen a building collapse from anything else? (earth quakes are of course the main thing that knocks down buildings, but those building are not structurally weakened first before the fall down due to massive lateral displacement)

Obviously stuff gets ejected sideways, principally the air that was inside the building (forming what looks to morons “puffs of dust from explosion” given that what “explosions” actual are is moving pressure waves though, duh, air!

Consider one tower

110 floors, 63.5m x 63.5m x 3m per floor, so that’s (approximately) 1.3 Million cubic meters of air in each tower. As the towers fell, that air had to go somewhere. Have a go at moving 1.3M m3 of air in 15 sec, and then tell me “ooh, what a surprise, some stuff got blown around”…..

Look at the plan, like most high rise buildings, the WTC towers have horizontal floors punctured by lift shafts and stair wells. It’s not in the least bit surprising that air got pushed down the building at high velocity as it collapsed, and when it found a way out (broken windows, broken structure etc) it produced lateral puffs of debris

Maxtorque, I can’t tell with some of the others on this thread but I’m pretty sure davidtaylforth isn’t being serious. 😉

And as to the commissions report being “incomplete” that’s because they weren’t asked to report on stupid, impossible or irrelevant claims.

For example, go read this Hillsbrough tragedy report:

http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/report/%5B/url%5D

Notice how incomplete that report it. At no point in the report do they even consider the fact that the tragedy was caused by aliens, or another bunch of conspirators! I mean, how lax were the report authors?

The fact is this: The WTC attack was watched by millions of people, who saw planes hit the towers, the towers burn and collapse. The Report (rightly) was focused on understanding how that occurred, both as an explanation to the events of that terrible day and to see if anything could be learned that could be used in future large building design to mitigate against similar events.

By starting, encouraging or championing stupid conspiracy theories, those idiotic theorists are rubbing the names of the thousands of innocent victims of the 911 attacked through the mud, and trivializing there deaths……

the top 60 floors of the south tower on the 8th and 9th sept were on a 36 hour power down. fact. Pretty disruptive for such high profile tennants. The guy who reported this had worked there for 3 years prior and had never had this while he was there, and he asked colleagues who had been there longer and they said the same. Workers in overalls were seen coming and going.

must just be coincidence. 8)

If you believe this sheep worrier, Sandy Hook, Vegas, anywhere there’s been a mass shooting in the last 20 years…….oh, and water makes frogs gay or something

If any of the “false flags” actually happened, then why let the nutters put forward the ideas?

No it isn’t, that’s been debunked. Go do some research.

The rest of the video is crap as well.

Hmm, that’s strange.

Anyone care to explain?

Most of the buildings collapsed into the multi-story basement that extended across the entire plaza, not just under each building. You only have to look at photos of the cleared site and compare those to the plan photos of the site with building and plaza outlines overlaid.

Judy Wood is some very kind of special, although there is a rumour that she was the CIA chief LSD tester back in the good old days.

…on this, if this did happen? if you were in their situation, would you have chosen instant death?
So we are now adding in bus drives, documents makers and about 1000 people who have just appeared on Sep 12th who will have finger prints and dna on file who will have no previous medical records etc. None of them have made contact with their families, none have gone to wiki leaks. A simple donation test from a family member would prove this so only 1 is needed to come forward.

Anyway you just increased your conspiracy membership to a couple of thousand at least. How much is a lifetime of silence worth?

The words entirely possible are probably true. The chance of it happening and being kept secret all these years is near in impossible. You would assume all these people are in some sort of watch list in case they make a run for it but they never appear in the snowdon files etc.

But where did all the debris from the wtc buildings go?

Notice the ambulance parked outside the lobby of wtc 1. Completely undamaged.

The testimony of the fdny workers who had been trapped on level three doesn’t make sense, or maybe they were extremely lucky.
97? floors, fixtures, fittings, desks, filing cabinets and porcelain loos came crashing down on top of them, but they emerged (much to their amazement), to a clear blue sky.

I know nothing about demolishing tower blocks, but I once took the bus past the remains of a skinny 30 storey tower block, and the debris was stacked pretty high.

The collapse of the wtc buildings hardly moved the seismograph. Looked more like a bout of mass flatulence.

Which shows what?

Interesting, seismologists have provided some useful insight into the events of 9/11 but I don’t believe they ever suggested the data was incorrect. What would you have expected to see and why?

The point about the seismograph reading is another “fact” supporting the “giant death ray vaporized the towers” argument.

Corner shop is out of biscuits – sorry….

I got doughnuts instead, I hope that’s ok?

Dicks gonna dick!

Enjoy your doh-nuts.

if this did happen? if you were in their situation, would you have chosen instant death?
No but that “fact” in no way proves that this scenario did indeed happen
Lets put it another way
if this did happen and you were in their situation, would you have chosen to NEVER EVER come fwd or ever contact your family ever again would every single pne of the people involved in this have done so? You think that is credible that none of them with kids, wives, partners parents ever wanted to speak to them ever again – dont be so daft. What next did the MIB use that pen thing on them?
FFS this is **** ludicrous debate

still, a power down took place, 2 people have confirmed this, the extent of which is a little up in the air,…. coming so soon prior to the collapses, which in itself is of interest.