So lets focus on the important thing; quiet welshmen for another year

🙄 Numpty.

molgrips, I think that's why everyone down here is so frustrated. Even with so many turnovers, no lineout to speak of, a barely competent 9 and Byrne dropping the ball at every opportunity, they still looked like they could win the game.

The first ten minutes summed up their defence – they just kept pushing England backwards up the pitch. Shane!!!!! lifted JW bodily and dumped him.

Of course, they then managed to lose the game…..

Reading the papers and watching the interviews on TV, I personally think that England's main problem now is that they think that they won the game on their own merits. However England have Italy this weekend, and not a major threat like Ireland or France – they have time to get momentum.

You were watching the match sober weren't you, backhander?

You did notice that your midfield was missing in action, your threats wide out weren't, and your only attacking option came from the scrum half?

You noticed the scrum reversing and buckling? The so-called attack being knocked back (when Wales had 15 men on the pitch)? The only area on the pitch where you had a clear advantage was the lineout, and JW didn't even use that tactically.

As I said in an earlier post, ALL of Englands points were created by Welsh madness, not English creativity. With just 6 minutes to go, you would easily have put money on Wales winning that game.

No bitterness, btw, just frustration as I said above. Still, that's what makes sport interesting.

In the first few minuted England had two bits of possession. They recycled 15 times and lost 30+ metres.

England were definitely the better side. They wre not good though but i predict a building of momenetum as they beat (comforatbly?) Italy

I think Wales have went significantly backwards in the last few months which is a real pity. The backline has the potential to be mouth watering.

What the heck has happened to Byrne????? Arguably best in the world to should be dropped!

Ha!
I wouldn't have a single member of that welsh outfit in a white shirt at the moment!
Normally I'd have a few but they were shocking on saturday!
There's always excuses and what-ifs when the welsh lose. Like children whose toys have been taken away.
Personally, I'm happy that JW was there to put all of those points on you lot!

Likewise, Flutey and Hipkiss in the midfield would have produced a very different scoreline.
I don't think either team has much to be happy about TBH. In fact I am very disappointed with all the weekends rugby and the SH must be laughing their cocks off.

You would keep a no mark like Armitage 😆 priceless.

Byrne had a shocker, no question about that. Mongo is a class act 😆 certifiably brain dead. Haskell was good but blows really hot and cold, Moody getting on a bit has always been a headless chicken. Come on admit it you want Nugget but he is all ours 😉

I'm sure Moody doesn't know the rules of rugby but is definately an asset. Haskell is a class act and croft is good too. As a back rower myself, I'm a big fan of martyn williams but not powell.

So am I the only one who thinks Ireland can and probably will beat France this weekend? 😐

I know TJ, just trying to lift the glum mood and get some discussion going about next weekend. Too much dissection and navel gazing going on after the travesty at Twickers. Ireland have the personnel for sure though, the front row will have to be on fire. We saw nothing of what Ireland can do…Italy played with zero ambition from the start and Ireland let themselves get dragged into it. In the second half the result was in the bag so off came O'Connell and Rog. No point in risking them further.

We have backs capable of going through France. We have a strong line out that functions well on its own ball and can steal others. Our pack looked strong against Italy's.

No point going there thinking we can't do it.

And when all is lost, we have BOD.

Too much reliance on one old fat slow man if you ask me! 😉

Is the Wales/Scotland a tea time KO? I am reffing on Saturday and with all respect to the two teams in question, I know which game I would rather see!

OH NO!

Parks is back!

Sean Lamont in the centre – Hook and Roberts must be chuffed?

Plus side – great to see Mossy win his 100th cap – top player and real good guy. Well done mate!

If he kicks 10 penalties we might just have a chance.

No – Godman is indeed a bit of a nancy boy. Parks is no better though – I was hoping for Mossy at 10 with Southwell at 15. Even switching those 2 would be better.

I reckon Mike Blair is a better stand off than Parks, not to mention Rory Hutton who could be a real class act given the chance.

OMG

Are you lot sure there isn't a Scotland qualified fly half anywhere? Surely there must be? Have a look down the back of your sofas chaps please

I didn't think much of Godmans performance but I really don't want to see desperate Dan play.

Otherwise a bit harsh on Max Evans but beefing up the midfield for Wales is horses for courses I guess.

TJ – there is a better stand off.

Chris Paterson and Rory Hutton are both better.

Scotland by 20???

If only!