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  • CaptainFlashheart
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    sockpuppet, the penatly kick for the draw was guaranteed, so we would have had that at least. Ryan asked the ref if it would restart, he said yes. The fact that Scotland couldn't kill the game off and that Wales kept that ball alive for so long was the difference. Keeping that ball alive was, as you put it, playing to win!

    🙂

    sockpuppet
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    that's what i meant CFH – keep playing on!

    Philby
    Full Member

    Amazing last 15 minutes – hard luck Scotland, well done Wales. Hope more matches have the same level of excitement and incident!

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Ah, sorry! Thought you meant that Wellies taking that kick was "settling for a draw"!

    😆

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Cant kick the ball straight out from a kick off, ref would have to have awarded the scrum and played on. They could have made more efort to bounce it into touch though.

    Have to say I **** hate that ref. Starts off being a pedant at the scrum and then just **** gives up, spoilt the game. Also if you cannot tackle a player in the air how was it not a pen when williams took that high ball on his line, he never landed. He should have yellowed scotland earlier in the second half, Cussiter should have gone. Another occasion cussiter box kicked it about 2m forward wales knocked on scrum scotland, despite all the scots competing for the ball being 8m offside. I'm sure the scots could point to other shite calls from their perspective.

    Pigface
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    and the best bit is that it will make Robinson scowl even more 😀

    Sorry that is very churlish 😆

    uplink
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    If he had kicked straight into touch its a scrum – no time left for the scrum. Game over – draw.

    I don't believe that to be the case
    The Welsh could simply have asked for the drop out to be taken again

    CaptainFlashheart
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    a_a, very valid points re the ref there. Am sure there were similar on the other side, as you say.

    Right, on to the next one, is it? This could be good….!

    Pigface
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    Captain I told you I believe 8) god I need a lie down after that.

    Pigface
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    Yep ref was very poor and his scrum interpretation was unfathomable.

    TandemJeremy
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    Once the starting dropout goes into touch after 80 mins then the game ends at that point. No retake, no scrum. You cannot have either after the 80 mins.

    Williams was not a penalty for being tackled in the air as he called mark – the game stops when the mark is called. No penalty. If he hadn't called mark then it would have been a penalty

    Pigface
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    How cold does it look in Paris?

    uplink
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    Once the starting dropout goes into touch after 80 mins then the game ends at that point. No retake, no scrum. You cannot have either after the 80 mins.

    Sorry TJ but you can
    If the ball is kicked straight into touch, the play hasn't finished
    If it could be done, it would have been, this time & plenty of other times

    CaptainFlashheart
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    TJ, it's still a penalty for a tackle in the air, as that's the law. That should have been given as a penalty over and above the mark being called.

    TandemJeremy
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    Maybe uplink – but what I originally meant was to kick it towards the touchline to play the ball into touch anyway possible. I have never seen a kick off taken after 80 mins before.

    TandemJeremy
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    CFH – surely the game stops as the mark is called?

    I think you are right tho that the ref missed it

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Williams was not a penalty for being tackled in the air as he called mark – the game stops when the mark is called. No penalty. If he hadn't called mark then it would have been a penalty

    Thats shite, they tackled him in the air with the advantage being played its a pen, you cant penalise wales just cause he still caught it. Ref didnt blow till he got the nod from the touch judge to confirm it was a mark, so the game didnt stop.

    colande
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    Williams was not a penalty for being tackled in the air as he called mark – the game stops when the mark is called. No penalty. If he hadn't called mark then it would have been a penalty

    could still be deemed as dangerous play,
    same as;
    he hit the player in the face when the clock had stopped, so no sending off????

    uplink
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    TJ another thing to ponder

    From the IRB handbook

    "The referee should be considered ‘the sole judge of fact and of law during a match’ from the toss before the match with the captains until the final whistle. The referee therefore keeps the time and the score,

    ie – it's up to the ref when it finishes, no one else

    CaptainFlashheart
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    France are looking dangerous early on. Great handling, pop passes off the shoulder.

    uplink
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    I have a feeling there may a bit of indiscipline in this one 😀

    CaptainFlashheart
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    How long until ROG ducks out of tackling Basteraud?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    how good is that french 7 who's name I cant spell?

    bruk
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    We threw it away with ill discipline and panic at the end. I am so disappointed as our 1st half had been great. Who would have made Dan Parks man of the match before the game. TJ?

    More composure from Lamont would have converted that overlap, if Dan Parks hadn't missed that drop goal. What if, what if. Sod it, we lost. We should have won.

    Lets look at the good; line breaks again and more support, good control of the game and fantastic defence for 73 minutes.

    And the bad; stupid ill discipline and panic at the end.

    Overall I would have loved to have won but am still proud of how we played for most of the game.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Fulgence Ouedraogo, you mean?

    Quick player.

    uplink
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    Why the hell did Darcy kick that?

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Ireland down to 14. France looking very good. What a take and go by Harinordoquy!

    TandemJeremy
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    bruk
    Who would have made Dan Parks man of the match before the game. TJ?

    Not me for sure

    tankslapper
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    Mmmmm!

    Taz
    Full Member

    Truly gutted after the Scotland / Wales game.

    I was screaming for Blair to kick it out. No idea why he did not. With 13 men and Wales buoyant it was the only senible choice.

    Never seen a game thrown away like that

    Sigh…….

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Flannery should be off for that. Yellow at least.

    tankslapper
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    WTF where you thinking about Flannery?!

    uplink
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    He's a bruiser isn't he?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    that should have been a red

    bruk
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    If he had kicked it directly into touch it would have been retaken or scrum, would have had to land in play 1st. Not that easy, particularly with no recognised 10 left on the pitch.

    That was a nasty challenge by the Irish hooker, he is lucky to still be on the pitch.

    Here is hoping Ireland don't ship 17 points in the 10 mins.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    He'll be cited and banned for that, IMO. And rightly so.

    tankslapper
    Free Member

    Trouble at mill, now…. 😐

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Rightly so. Indiscipline costs games. Flannery has got a man injured off the pitch and he's still there. That's not fair, so the try that France are about to get is some reward. Not enough, if you ask me. Not enough.

    Flannery should be off.

    tankslapper
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    Agreed – and try for France.. 😥

    deadlydarcy
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    Great game though…from the two best sides in the competition. Well done O'Gara. Should be level really. Too many knock-ons from the green machine.

    ****…roll on half time though.

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