working for Tory central office

Please. They aren’t going to pay you. More like working alongside the Tories.

One thing I noted from the debate is that corbyn had more dodgy camera angles whilst boris was more angled angled front and centre.

But I suppose the BBC have to keep the current ruling idiots happy.

So much for impartiality..

Subtle but obvious for anyone into arts, composition, etc.

Have you ever seen the salt-mines comrade?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

Yet apparently the media aren’t the problem

Been done to death. Much harder for a Labour leader to cut through in the media. Doesn’t distract from the opinion that Corbyn is very poor at this part of his job (amongst others).

Classy behaviour from the tories: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50482637

Hopefully that stunt will backfire.

That’s pretty disgusting really. Surely that’s got to breach some standard or rules?

Indeed.

And the Labour Party still thinks it’s a local council meeting about planning permission in Tower Hamlets

DazH, the public getting the government they deserve is only part of the story. They also get the opposition they deserve.

I seem to remember you and others got very upset when I stated that I wanted to see the hardest of hard brexits because that’s what the British public deserve. And that it wasn’t politicians who tricked us into Brexit, it was because the British identity held by the public is rotten at it’s core. The press and the politicians simply court that debased national consciousness.

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`That’s pretty disgusting really. Surely that’s got to breach some standard or rules?

Yes and on top of their recent Keir Starmer edit – there should be an apolitical attack on the way the Tories conduct there affairs.

Same as the Republicans – they are the party of lies.

If one’s medium term goal is to see an independent Scotland…. this is all going swimmingly. Kind of a Disaster Constitutional Change as opposed to Disaster Capitalism.

I actually wouldn’t be into Scotch Independence if we had a more representative voting system across the UK – something that forced politicians to work together instead of blaming another party for every single problem and policy.

I foresee a massive Tory/Brexit party shaped coalition. Might have to move to Scotland.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

This is annoying enough:

“Piffle paffle wiffle waffle……..rah, rah, rah, erm, erm… get Brexit done…. rah, rah, rah, make Britain great again……. wiffle waffle piffle paffle”.

Lies, lies, lies.

But the excruciating thing is knowing that this tripe from a serial liar and egotistical pillock is going to be good enough. This will be Jezza’s political epitaph:

“You lost to that tosser?”

kelvin

Of course he isn’t. He’s voting Labour, and pointing out that not nearly enough other people will be because they have the wrong leader, who listens too much to the wrong people. If you’re in a Labour/Tory marginal, please also vote Labour. I wouldn’t advise going out there trying to get people to want Corbyn as PM though, people do not like or trust him. Focus on how vacuous and tub thumping Johnson is instead if you want to get people voting Labour.

The issue here is that Labour are doing sod all to help themselves.
Other than free broadband which sadly but hopefully will swing voters.

I thought the only person on stage last night that came away looking half professional was Julie Etchingham. I think it’s pretty clear the audience thought that both leaders were pretty useless.Even when given an open goal about trust in Johnson, Corbyn failed to take the opportunity to push Johnson into a corner.

Corbyn looked shifty, and Johnson was a gibbering idiot who wouldn’t shut up when asked to, and this is our choice for PM? Great

But the excruciating thing is knowing that this tripe from a serial liar and egotistical pillock is going to be good enough. This will be Jezza’s political epitaph:

“You lost to that tosser?”

We are going through what the US did at their last election.

Rationally speaking, people like Trump and Johnson should be easy to beat, because they talk out of their arse. But that’s exactly why they are so hard to beat. They will say ANYThING that people want to hear, because they have no conscience, so those who aren’t too bright will just lap it up. So you cannot blame Corbyn all the way here. Beating this kind of candidate is extremely difficult, just ask a seasoned political operator like Clinton.

.Even when given an open goal about trust in Johnson, Corbyn failed to take the opportunity to push Johnson into a corner.

Beyond open goal … but using the sport’s analogy Boris knocked his own stumps off on multiple occasions while Jezza just pretended it didn’t happen.

Johnson lies about 40 new hospitals … and I’m sat waiting for Grandad to rip him a new arsehole….

Beyond open goal

Or a conscious decision to play the ball not the man?

a unique chance

I think plenty of people who think Whittaker is an awful MP will still turn out and vote for him because of Brexit, where as many other voters will just stay at home. The Cummings playbook neatly distilled into one constituency.

So you cannot blame Corbyn all the way here. Beating this kind of candidate is extremely difficult, just ask a seasoned political operator like Clinton.

Could you just run us through exactly what Jezza has been doing for the last 40 years? Before he recently became an MP?

Oh…erm…

Quite an achievement to have spent your entire life doing something and still manage to have absolutely no instinct for it whatsoever and continue to be as hopeless at it as you were 40 years ago when you started. In fact, probably worse as the world moved on but you stayed rooted to the spot. Suspended forever in 1973.

I’ve a mug of coffee sat in front of me here that is possessed with sharper political instincts than grandad.

Johnson lies about 40 new hospitals … and I’m sat waiting for Grandad to rip him a new arsehole….

Present but not involved. Its a recurring theme. Like he’s watching it on telly. It doesn’t require a response, does it?

Or a conscious decision to play the ball not the man?

This is Boris … the LIES ARE THE BALL

I blame Brexit on the fact that Ed Miliband couldn’t eat a bacon sandwich…